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The New Pacific Order Wants YOU! Greetings Fellow Nation Rulers! If you are looking for an alliance to help your nation achieve economic superiority, military strength and the camaraderie which comes with being a part of the greatest community on Planet Bob, then look no further! The New Pacific Order (NPO) is the premier alliance in CyberNations and has been since its founding on January 27th, 2006. As one of the oldest alliances in Cybernations, we have proven and continue to prove our superiority with alliance operations. This success is not taken for granted as we always continue to strive towards new development and advancements in diplomacy, economics, communications, internal activities, and warfare. Our evolution has been realized and endures because of our large, diverse and dedicated membership. Thanks to our excellent people and the deeply rooted teachings of our culture, our loyalty is unwavering and our pursuits are accomplished with honor. Throughout the history of Pacifica we have prided ourselves on our focus of vision, our commitment to ideals greater than ourselves, the maintenance and preservation of our culture and our way of life. Pacificans enjoy an active community within our private forums and text/voice chats. Our economic system, one of the best in CyberNations with automated IT systems created by and for the NPO, has been honed to develop nations into strong and resilient members of the alliance. All members have access to a plethora of guides and tools and the experience of long time members always ready to assist you and answer your questions and help our nations achieve their fullest potential. We also have other activities including games, competitions, and ways to get involved in various departments. Be a part of the proud history and forge a new and glorious future as a part of the New Pacific Order! Register on our forums and post your membership application today. Feel free to stop by #NSA when on IRC or join us on Discord, where you will be greeted by willing and helpful Pacificans who will answer any and all questions you may have. I look forward to the day I am able to call you "Comrade"!
Hey guys, Hechal here. I was wonder if anyone is around that was active around 2006-2008? I was just thinking about CN and thought I'd give it a try. I used to be in the NPO, helped with the NpO when that kicked off and was a member of the War Council for both organizations a couple of times, and went to Vahalla for a bit from what I remember. Also if you were active around during those years (I forgot the clan) but do you remember when that trolling alliance posted the gross image? 😂
I agree. It is convenient to blame NPO for all of the EQ coalition’s troubles because it was the one that adopted responsibility for leading the (otherwise largely leaderless) eclectic group, and was the most recognised example of the conflicts of interest which plagued the coalition. The more-subtle truth is that the coalition suffered from divergent interests and/or different levels of commitment among many alliances and on multiple fronts which resulted in EQ being less effective than it might have been (which probably would have worsened if the war continued), but that does not fit well with the narrative for this war. This post is best experienced while listening to: Your summary gives a half-treatment to the issues. NPO didn't just "adopt" responsibility for the coalition, they were responsible for the war; they organized it for like 4 months prior. Then they did the exact opposite of take responsibility: They announced that they weren't anyone's boss. Then Brehon disappeared. NPO is not simply some passive object "example of the conflicts of interest." NPO actively schemed with its Umbrella-aligned allies before the war, made promises of a "handshake peace" made deals about who would be hit and who would not, and made promises about what coalition AAs would be allowed to do or not do. They didn't just have conflicts of interest, they created them and imposed them upon us. There is no subtle truth about the internal conflict of EQ, there is simply the truth: The divergent alliances were invited to a war and given the impression that it was the Big One we'd all been waiting for for 2 years, and that with NPO abdicating leadership we would be running the war by consensus and to its natural conclusion. But that was never true because, we found out, NPO had already submitted a script to NG and C&G for approval and we weren't to be told until it was time to pull the plug. Then Punxsutawney Brehon came out of his hole he didn't see his shadow, so it was time to end the war whether anyone else liked it or not, and as anyone with a brain might have imagined, we all became quite agitated. VE was on the verge of surrender after a long and retarded negotiation in which QueenHailee asked for input then went manic and disappeared when she received it, then--while preaching to all of us about our selfish idiocy over DH terms--NPO derailed the VE surrender in a weeklong battle over getting their name in the surrender-to list. Then NPO convened DH peace negotiations against the will of the vast majority of the coalition, thus precluding VE's surrender at all since they knew they could just hang out for whole-Umbrella peace. Thus we lost the crucial serious first surrender. NPO continued to fake us all out over our supposed voice in the coalition when Brehon opened a thread asking for our beginning point terms for each AA we were at war with in preparation for his peace summit which we told him not to have in the first place. I know, height of irony, but a nice gesture. Then he proceeded to ignore everything we said and present his own terms loosely based on what we had said, to which Umbrella, MK, and GOONS went batcrap while OsRavan (or somebody) reminded Brehon of his "handshake peace" promise. The negotiations were too early for DH's damages to have warranted any serious consideration of peace terms, and Brehon's version of what we told him was too extreme; therefore, they blew us off, and left with the impression that we were ready for peace when we were not. At this point, NPO should have let the war continue, but they were Hell-bent on the white peace and they were Hell-bent on it now. Brehon, Farrin, and Letum went on an internal campaign of berating the coalition for daring to ask for peace terms; this created massive arguments between NPO and AAs which wanted to continue the war or wanted peace terms, and between AAs who wanted terms and AAs who wanted to cut-and-run. NPO began trying to assert the responsibility/control they had refused at the outset; this set the dickheads on the C&G front on a path of obstinance for obstinance's sake. Regardless of his clear inability to control anything or speak with a mandate on behalf of the coalition, Brehon again opened peace talks, and again mutated what the coalition wanted--a longer war with DH--into what he thought would work for us and within the promises he made pre-war--a negotiated extended war against Umb only. Sure, that worked very well for NPO with its inactive upper tier and $%&@ed up FA. In the midst of our objections Brehon lost his blob, announced he was done negotiating, then went to NobodyExpects' Parlor of Love for a massage, and on NE's consult alone took the damn Frankenstein's Peace Monster to DH anyway. At this point he turned around and told us that NPO, AI, and IRON pre-determined everything about the war and how it would end, and that we could sign the treaty or get bent. The damage was done. The strife opened up by all this scheming and bullying had turned EQ into a roiling basketcase which signed the peace to get away from NPO and from each other. As ChairmanHal says, "there is plenty to go around" but with this exception: only that some of us could have handled ourselves better in dealing with NPO's crap. And you know the shame of it all? What was it for? NPO got nothing. All those gymnastics to keep DuckRoll and win over C&G. I wish I got a dollar for every time NPO told us we had to go easy on DH because C&G was cancelling on them after fulfilling their debts this one last time. But you lost it all. Your scheming split arguably your best ally Anarchy Inc. in two and destroyed it, the scheming alienated IRON losing DR for you. And C&G, if the promises were made at all, reneged on them. Everyone in EQ was royally pissed or simply disillusioned. You got nothing out of all that. Source: NPO Declaration of War and Sing-Along War Report
I love blogs. I try to read them whenever I can, and I feel I've gotten to know the politics of CN through blogs better then I could know it by myself. One topic that seems to appear a lot on the boards these days is Anti- Pacificanism. But looking through the blogs and associated responses, I think I may have found just the answer to this growing phenomenon. Now I can't profess to love the NPO, but I would be lying if I told you that I still hated it. Sadly, not everyone shares my "give everyone an equal chance" opinion on this matter. Quite a few people I know still harbor some Karma based hatred for the NPO, and aren't about to forgive them any time soon. On the other side of the fence, many Pacificans wonder why they haven't been forgiven, and why that at least some of the world still harbors distrust for them almost a year after the War. This seems to be because in apart, the NPO still believes a lot of its policy previous to the Karma war was/still is appropriate. After all, no one is going to forgive you if you haven't changed. So, if the NPO wants world approval again, it seems to me that the only way is to issue a statement wherein NPO recognizes its actions prior to the Karma war were aggressive and in many cases ill-founded. It should also include that it will work to correct the damaged relationships, and redefine the image of the NPO as a AA that works WITH the global community rather then lording OVER it. Now I know what I just said is blasphemy to some, and pride in your AA is key in CN, but just hear me out. After all, this policy has worked in REAL LIFE in the past. Consider this: when Nazi Germany was defeated at the end of WWII, the United States and all of the Allied Powers made the German government admit that their actions during the years 1930 to 1944 were unjust, aggressive and wrong. As part of the Marshall Plan the German government complied. They issued their apology, and have since worked tirelessly to redeem themselves in the eyes of the international community. It has worked very well, and in the 21st century they are once again a respected country. Now I wouldn't dare compare the actions of the NPO to Nazi Germany, but my point in telling you this story is to show that the only way the NPO can possibly recover its image short of another global domination is to simply admit they were wrong. Then, they have to change their policy to fit with the current global situation. In the above story, the Germans were so successful in changing their image because they worked tirelessly to change their policy. They banned white supremacy, apologized to world powers and promoted the rich history of Germany before the Nazi era (while at the same time never forgetting the lessons of the past). They worked to become a respected democracy and change their interactions with other countries, and in time, people began to think of them as "the place rich in European history and culture", rather then "the place where Nazis came from". The reason that the NPO is remembered as "the alliance that abused its power and subjugated everyone" is because they have done nothing to prove to people they have changed their ways. So to close I will leave you with this quote by Lynn Johnston "apologies are the SuperGlue of life. It can repair just about anything." In the end, the NPO and its members can take my advice or leave it, but they have to know that making excuses for their actions only garners them more distrust and disapproval. If the people of the NPO want to be recognized not for their past mistakes, but for their present actions, they should just say sorry.