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Oh no GPA has more pixels than my alliance how unfair?

Given that we have no small number of nations who ran out of things to do several years ago? For something as utterly unexciting as this, we can reasonably expect a percentage of stragglers who don't give enough of a damn, and that it will take awhile to get them all back on the AA As do I in mine. We could keep a watch over all *checks* 296 IRON members as they make their way back to the AA, what I'm questioning is the value of the kind of effort that implies. AA hopping rogues are neither that common, nor a real problem, ghosts are simply a nice source of target practice. It should be entirely possible to switch over to the the new system without this much trouble. Yes because there are clearly a massive pile of large alliances with massive activity issues hemorrhaging 40 nations a day to deletion but managing to buoy themselves with recruitment.....

Then you're vastly overestimating your alliances activity levels, or are just plain batshit.

Regardless of whether it's admins job to worry about those players, it is the job of their alliances and this improvement to the game is a solution to a non-issue "affecting" the alliances who will be most inconvenienced by that solution. It is Admins job to not pointlessly waste our time.

Persistent rogues AA hopping and Ghosts. The former are annoying because of the Persistent rogue rather than AA hopping bit, and the inconvenience of the latter is offset by the convenient target practice

If a fraction of your alliance can't be arsed to check the game in time, or just doesn't give enough of a fuck to keep track of what day a browser game they only kinda care about anymore, its 4-5 people, and who cares. The same fraction in a 300 member alliance has us spending a month running after 40+ people. Given that it's the larger alliances who primarily deal with the problems this is supposed to fix... No solution should take more effort and inconvenience to implement than the problem it purports to fix.

The problem is not the effort of typing in one line, but the clusterfuck of organizing a few thousand typings of that line over a freaking month while dealing with the idiots who think they should take advantage of the chaos. It's not worth it for the minor benifit stopping the odd AA hopper or ghosts, the former who can be dealt with by 5 seconds in a query and the latter by a few cruise missles. This. The new system is superior, unfortunately the planned transition will create more work than the problems its ment to solve ever have. Says the guy in a thirty member alliance.

No. It'll create a massive amount of hassle, especially when dealing with large alliances; migrating 100-300 members and then cleaning up the cockwads whole will go "Herp derp they're on None! TECH RAAAAAID" will be all kinds of not fun, for no gain. We've been successful in keep undesirables off our AA's for 7 years now, and it probably took less effort over that whole time than organizing this kind of clusterfuck will. Either find a way to port the current AAs over and then manually set the leaders, or don't bother.

Been a bit so BUMP!

Was poking through the ntion sitting section, and a bit of idle curiosity hit me. The Rules for nation sitting state: You will never be allowed to aid, trade, or war with/along side of the nation you sit again. Any outstanding trades or foreign aid will be cancelled and marked as cheating as soon as the sitter logs on to the sat nation. Most of this is pretty simple, however it leaves open the possible (though unlikley) event of a nation declaring war on both players at the same time. Should that happen what would be the outcome?

[quote name='Merlinus' timestamp='1295414868' post='2582863'] So, a FAP has no Article III? :) Good luck to all! great fappin emoticon, too! LOL [/quote] *points to his signature*

[quote name='Fizzydog' date='19 June 2010 - 04:15 PM' timestamp='1276978504' post='2343109'] Yes, I believe it did for me. Though I exactly can't remember I think I actually got a small fraction of land. [/quote] What this fellow said. I've had a few "defeats" where I've still done the maximum (or near it anyways) damage. It's mildly funny when it happens.

Low level aircraft don't have bomb sights and the bombardier is permanently drunk it seems. Either don't bother with air attacks at your size unless you really need to or get 300 tech so you can buy planes that don't suck. With low level planes you need 20-30 of them to do semi-decent damage on a regular basis and that will get shot down by anyone with a fighter heavy air force. That and using them in a tech raid is all kinds of stupid.

[quote name='Aeternos Astramora' date='07 May 2010 - 09:47 PM' timestamp='1273283209' post='2290890'] Edit: Gre just lost two more nations totaling 130K NS. Anybody know who they are? That's with a 58K NS nation and a 185K NS nation sitting near deletion (23 days). Ooh, and Gre is only 1K NS greater than Argent now. [/quote] One fellow joined MHA, the other one is Bobdole and right now it seems they've ducked off the AA thinking we can't find em then or something. Edit: Actually that comes to around 175k NS, so looks like someone deleted as well.

So guess that dream of out growing Matt isn't going to happen then. You had me convinced you were going to do it one day with the way you kept going about it and all. Tis a pitty that.

Do you have any troops deployed when you view the ground attack screen post-nuke.

Yea 86 is rounded, the break even point is actually somewhere between 85.71 and 85.72. You can get away with doing it before that because of the banks lower cost, however how far depends on how long it would take you to get up past the break even point. Either way however if you plan on tech farming regularly (You should, Its not much work and a great way to grow your nation.) get factories prior to banks. The extra infra they'll let you buy will make up for the lower income

Unless theres been some changes to the system I've missed, you should only buy a stadium in preference to a bank if your Avg. Gross Income per Citizen was lower then $86.

That's in reference to the receiving nations aid slots being full, not yours. Edit: Missed an '

Actually I personally handled IRON's end of several of those cases. Outside of the really small ones the general rule was that you had about a dozen nations in range, for the most part different nations then the previous case. I find it hard to believe that in months period of time you had 7x ghosts cycle through your AA. It would be a good guess to say at least some of them were active no? also could I get an answer to my above post please Edit. Forgot a comma

So they failed to respond to a reasonable request to do something by their officers? Isn't that exactly what your complaining about IRON nations doing?

May I point out that FARK had their own trouble getting members to respond when it came to your fulfilling of article 7? Perhaps you should have threatened them with ZI so they would have been more willing to declare war. You have your own problems with stubborn members who prefer not to listen, so do most other alliances. Stones and glass houses mate. edit: Grammer

IRONs is up to date, even has the list of the guys who's ZI's have finished or council chose to let go. If you want to take a look at it you don't even need an account.

So all we need to do it not piss anyone off anymore? Guess no more alliance wars because that may annoy one of their memeber. No turning down a treaty offer for the same reason. Defend our members against random attacks? That may piss off the attacker so no more of that. Some random person demanded aid off you? Guess you'll have to send it no matter how rude they are; after all refusing them regardless of how politely you do it may offend them What warrants the attack is based entirely on the opinion of the attacker. It could be because of a war they don't agree with or an argument over soda pop. Or it could be just because their life is miserable and they find trying to inflict a small part of their misery on others amusing. Edit: Spell check failed me.

I take it you got into your CN account via a saved password? If your using firefox then Tool>options>security>savedpasswords. Click the show passwords button and find the one for CN.