BraveNewWorld

Wow, is this a joke? Seriously? You're declaring war on an alliance for absolutely no reason other than you want to be more powerful than them...oh, and I guess cause you don't like them. Why did anybody ever give NPO peace in their last war? Why not just continue on with in for eternity. Do you think that anybody will EVER end a war now, knowing that it means absolutely nothing, that people will just go ahead and attack whomever they want, whenever they want, for any reason they think up. This is the end of cybernations, congratulations.

War, schmar, we all know we're going to fight eachother, I'm glad we finally are. But I have to agree with my pen chucking friend here. Lennox, I used to consider you a friend. Yes, an untrustworthy trouble causing friend, but for the most part a friend. Dajobo is just about the nicest guy I've ever met in cybernations. Always happy to help, always willing to give people a second chance, never quick to judge or jump to aggressive actions. For you to choose him to be the patsy in this plan is just disgusting. He was hurt by how he was used, and everybody who knows him surely feels the same way. I'm just happy to see that Polaris sees Dajobo for the wonderful officer he truly is. Where others might have turned their back on him, we know better.

Gee, I sure do love that a good ol' curb stomp doesn't fulfull anybody's destructive desires anymore and public humiliation has become the norm as part of surrender.

Reps for Sparta? Wow, the easter bunny certainly was generous.

Well I for one am shocked at this announcement...who knew MHA was at war with anyone? Surprised the treaty wasn't canceled by either party ages ago. Good luck to both parties, yada yada yada.

Thanks for the heads up. Fortunately I only use that generic password for things that I don't particularly care about security wise. If this wise hacker could also figure out my dummy e-mail address, I suppose he could also rate movies for me at IMDB.com, or upload recipes to allrecipes.com, but that's about it.

[quote name='SpacingOutMan' date='24 February 2010 - 03:17 PM' timestamp='1267042874' post='2201895'] So a beer review is truly [i]that[/i] inconvenient? Yeesh, God forbid you commit to such a minor thing for peace. [/quote] If it's so minor, then why are Fark insisting upon it? Besides, I believe it is a beer review AND not re-entering the war in support of their allies who are still fighting. Something which I'm sure their opponents would not agree to.

Good luck Ivan, I'd probably have done the same thing if I were you.

I never said anything about this announcement offended me, but please continue you passive aggressive mocking, it makes you appear oh so tough and clever.

Sounds like a typical \m/ reply. We can do whatever we want, but don't do anything it's just a joke, haha!

Yes, but it seems that these days the standard CN "war" tactic is to simply call other people cowards and infra huggers. I see far more name calling than I see actual war in any given conflict

You don't see anything immature about mocking somebody for being offended by racial slurs? It is essentially passive aggressive childish name calling.

I believe Polar has made about 100 declarations on \m/ in less than 24 hours, which ain't too shabby considering they only have about 50 nations in war mode.

Let us hope that is not the new global precedence! Otherwise we might have to declare war on people for not declaring war Anyway, regardless of all else said, I respect PC for honouring their treaty. I think the DoW is incredibly immature, but is still a welcome sight.

How mature...

We are fighting over an ongoing problem of this alliance showing disrespect and bringing down the community we in Polaris enjoy. If you haven't picked that up in 60 pages, well...I'm sorry, but I'm spent.

If I have issue with another alliances behaviour I certainly do have the right to approach them about it. An issue is not resolved when the behaviour is still there. And when Grub went onto IRC the behaviour was certainly still there.

You don't get to decide when an issue doesn't involve us. Something that affects the community I enjoy, is something I can take issue with.

The fact that Frostbite no longer exists I think is a pretty sturdy foot. The point is still the same. Polaris is an independent alliance and we will hold our treaties to their word. If you want more control over our alliance than that, put it in the treaty (but don't expect a signature).

While C&G and SF are MADP blocs. The o there is pretty important. Again, Frostbite was certainly not a traditional bloc working as a group, which is why it didn't last.

As I addressed above, Frostbite was not a traditional bloc the way the ones today operate, as is obvious by the fact it is now dissolved. As I also addressed above, the first time we paid for, the second time there was no issue, things happened exactly as they should addressing the issue with diplomacy, and this time, that diplomacy unfortunately failed thanks to the immaturity and disrespect of \m/.

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

I suppose I should clarify. I speak of the current Polaris, not of pre SPW actions. Frostbite was defensive only and certainly not a traditional bloc. If the alliance leaders hadn't all been emperors of Polaris is would never have been founded.

We took this route "anyway" because a resolution could not be made, and indeed \m/, knowing we were an ally of their ally, treated our emperor with such crudeness and disrespect that caused the entire thing to escalate. I'm not saying your government is thrilled. I'm saying they were given the notice and opportunity that they deserved as a treaty partner. As I stated earlier, being an ally does not give you the right to ask for immunity for your other allies. Nice way to ignore the question. When we have issue with their actions, we will take those issues to them, and when they treat us the way \m/ treated us, we will respond.

So what about the friend of a friend of a friend? What about their friend? Have you seen the treaty web? Polaris makes only the treaties we want to have. We do not join blocs. We do not sign chaining treaties. By the respect we have for our allies we discuss matters with them before taking action. You are out of line to ask for immunity for your allies, but you are welcome to help improve relations between the two when issues arise, as happened in the case of Athens.