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[quote name='KaitlinK' timestamp='1295502566' post='2585376'] So you decided to activate the SF Treaty AFTER you were notified well in advance that RoK would be entering this conflict. After being unsuccessful in your (multiple) attempts to talk them out of it, you declared war one hour before Ragnarok had planned in order to avoid being put in the position of having to defend them. Wow with friends like you... [/quote] I suggest you talk with Taut or Delta, who actually know all the facts rather than the misinformation you're getting from secondary sources. It's kind of sad that both you and Hoo are on here, bashing old friends, when you even don't have the common courtesy to talk to one of us before believing the bs others are saying. But hey, they obviously know more about SF than we do!

[quote name='Van Hoo III' timestamp='1295501065' post='2585126'] It's cool. No one has to back those decisions now regardless of obligations and blood pacts ... certain parties have made sure of it. [/quote] You're mistaken and you really shouldn't sling mud without knowing all the facts, of which you only know one side of. Though, it is quite telling how much you value our friendship apparently, to sling mud first rather than talk to us in private.

[quote name='Caliph' timestamp='1295338961' post='2580880'] With GOD's viewing its alliance with VE as higher than SF [/quote] You shouldn't speak about matters that you know nothing about, especially when what you're spouting is completely wrong.

[quote name='Van Hoo III' timestamp='1295331887' post='2580448'] I know you do. ... and hello. [/quote] Still much . Have fun going PEW PEW PEW, clickity clickity click.

[quote name='Van Hoo III' timestamp='1295330818' post='2580391'] Ragnarok doesn't have a legit reason for not declaring on iFOK or PC. [/quote] I'd disagree. Good to see you around, regardless.

Fairly inaccurate statement Penkala. Every action we've ever taken has always been in full cognizance of the long term consequences, with the support of everyone else. But since you were never in high SF gov, I wouldn't expect you to know better.

I think the old meme of [i]brilliant[/i] political move is the best description here. Congratulations I guess?

[quote name='TheListener' timestamp='1294615289' post='2570310'] Yes, because aside from the Mistake of alliances I've dug myself into a hole, you guys are really trying too hard, and coming up empty handed with every attempt. [/quote] I noticed you still haven't answered my question. Does IAA demask their rogues and yourself, as a high government member of IAA, support such a policy?

[quote name='TheListener' timestamp='1294613056' post='2570229'] Is there really? A retired ruler is one who chose to leave the alliance, a rogue is one who chose to leave the alliance AND attack another nation. So outside of the Attacking a nation what is the difference between the two? [/quote] [quote name='TheListener' timestamp='1294612640' post='2570208'] I've said in a previous post on this topic I am in no way the Final say on anything IAA related, however if I was I would most certainly not be offended because the forums are used as a means of community. I guess this is a foreign concept to alliances whose only goal is to rule the world. Others, however use this as a way to build community so even with a membership mask a member may not be an actual member of the alliance here on planet bob. I know for a fact IAA has kept the membership mask of many retired rulers simply because of their past works to our Empire. [/quote] So does IAA not demask their rogues? That seems to be what you're suggesting here.

[quote name='TheListener' timestamp='1294611603' post='2570183'] Perhaps you missed my point in referencing Viceroyships in my initial statement on this. The Required Change of Access levels on private forums, has been a banned request for a long period of time. So the point is, they're asking for Keve's ZI because he didn't change the access levels of someone on his private forums. My Usage and explanation of why this extortion is indeed a great explanation of exactly what it is and why it's illegal as per International Regulation #2 (Terms of Service Rule #2) as outlined here: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=28&view=findpost&p=783646 [/quote] Not true. [quote]It is the judgement of the senior staff that compelling an alliance to give [b]increased access[/b] on an offsite forum through the threat of ingame action is in violation of this clause.[/quote] Not to mention, the precedent you're attempting to set of allowing alliances to keep rogues masked as members is a terrible idea. But hey, I guess this means that if any rogues were to ever hit IAA nations, IAA would be perfectly ok with the rogue's former alliance keeping him/her masked as a member while declaring him/her a rogue.

[quote name='Keve69' timestamp='1294560078' post='2569549'] We forgot about it, poor organization? Criticism taken, but masks being forgotten happen from time to time and in no ones wildest dreams should this ever lead to ZI's or ingame conflict. Never. [/quote] You forgot about it? Curious, that's not what your MoD seemed to imply or believe. <EgoFreaky[RnR|Tri]> i don't see the point in keeping "rogues" masked as member at all, what's your point? <big-joe[uine-mod]> because CN is dying an members to make up NS are hard enough to find right now

Congrats on coming to this resolution. Glad to see cooler heads prevail.

Hi Srgt! Also, join RIA.

Delta uses his psychic cupcake powers to constantly keep in contact with the multitudes of deep cover operatives planted in many alliances.

Congrats and happy birthday!

Let slip the dogs of war!

Congrats! Though, I'd advise you to never let yourself be in a room alone with Hoo

I'm curious to see how Skynet works, though at first glance, I believe NORAD is still superior. Regardless, best of luck wherever you go.

Congrats! So what will be the new color scheme for Ardus's shiny new hammer?

Roquentin is the shadow ruler of all of CN with Xavii at his right hand! Edit: Any lack of babyjesus on these lists can be attributed to his threats against one's livelihood for potentially exposing his puppeteering ways D:

Glad to see this [b]finally[/b] signed! Genesis Also, NO U Templar!

Congrats ODN!

[quote name='AAAAAAAAAAGGGG' timestamp='1286130132' post='2473193'] Don't worry, IRON will be invited shortly too. [/quote] I'm still disappointed you didn't go with donkeypunch as the name.

Well, I can't say I agree with your choice of targets but have fun, Ejay.

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