chefjoe

You intentionally obtuse or just being obstinate? As I stated above the communications between our two alliances was being done on AI's forums and had .gov members of YOURS involved, not to mention several IRC contacts as well. Also as I said the embassy on our forums backs me up in my claims(if you even cared to look you would see but I can see you are hell bent on your spin parade). I too can post many logs of such conversations, all of them cordial(mostly Bud and WM talking) but still THERE and showing attempts to become more cordial with Umbrella. Now then, after saying the above, we soon realized YOU guys wanted no part of AI except as a target list and OF COURSE we made contingency plans. Why you ask? Because were very confident in our assessment of Umbrella at that point and knowing you and yours wanted a piece of us, we would have been foolish not to, and AI may be many things but foolish and living in a bubble is not among them. So all im reading from your spin posting is that because we never made an embassy on YOUR forums(of which we were never invited to do) it butthurt you all to the extent you wanted to consider us hostile and start fucking with us and now here we are........but to say no communications or attempts were made to become more friendly with Umbrella itself is a bald faced lie. Does that means we had love for some of your allies? NO, but it doesnt negate the fact we were attempting to make inroads with you. Was it to try and make friends with Umbrella so maybe you would distance yourselves from some of your current allies? Quite possibly, but again that doesnt negate the fact we were trying to get more cordial with YOU. Im sure you will disregard any reality in the above and come back with some BS tangent, but once again even that doesnt negate the realities of what transpired before this war and the timeline leading upto it. tl;dr AI tried to make friends, were rebuffed at every attempt and of course we then saw the writing on the wall and made 'contingencies' for what we saw coming.

Turned down? L O L You have that totally 180'd as I mentioned in my post, I/WE made very unsubtle hints we would like to have hooked up with Umbrella, I even made several mentions regarding it directly(A treaty between our two alliances) which were ignored completely or responded to in tongue in cheek manner by YOUR Diplos whom were and still are active on our forums in the Umbrella embassy there. So sorry, thats total and complete BS as we made every attempt to be/get cordial with your alliance only to rebuffed by YOU(Umbrella) whom very clearly let it be known that you guys were not interested in getting closer with AI by the responses given and/or Ignored. You can live in a bubble of your own making as long as you want, but its clearly a bubble where nothing of sense gets thru [ooc]*cough* palin,limbaugh, tea party *cough* [ooc]

The great reset war, as that is what the war is about and doing.

Total BS, like most of your posts. I was and am FA for AI and made several attempts to rectify any animosity and even went so far as to drop very UNSUBTLE hints that we not only had no problem with umbrella and asked what your guys beef with us was(to which we/I never got an honest or truthful answer too), further more because you were allied at the time to IRON, one of our closest friends, I made mention that we in AI would like to be on better terms with umbrella and would've liked to have worked towards a treaty, once again we/I was answered with vagueness. So in short AI made EVERY attempt in the world before(as Valhalla) and then as AI to try to bring both of our alliances closer. The Umbrella embassy on our forum directly reflects and shows this. Now I wont blow smoke up your ass and say we had a liking for MK or GOONS, but as for Umbrella themselves we tried many a time to try and make inroads towards being better 'friends' only to be rebuffed after/during each interaction. tl;dr- We had no animosity towards Umbrella until it was clear to us that you had zero respect or desire to be anyway closer towards DR or AI themselves. Hence either your .gov misinformed you or your just plain trying to spin. Which it is IDK and at this point its moot anyhow, but those are the facts of the matter.

whether it took 5, 10, 20 etc and 3-Infinity weeks, the point is you HAVE been beat the hell up and it shall only continue, so suck it up buttercup cuz we have all the time in the world for this, hell people have waited 2-3 YEARS for this, ya think they are unhappy having it continue? Especially as time goes by we get to read and post in these bawww-matic 3 star diamond threads? Pffft, keep dreamin my man and maybe one day peace will come and you can then start to apply ointment to your obviously inflamed posterior :popcorn:

I find it funny that you first talk about how this is the first time in 6yrs your going to ZI, and then try and intimate those doing this to you for the first time suck at it. You contradict yourself in that very statement as those whom 'suck' are fucking you up far worse then you have ever been fucked up before LOL what a whiner, take your ZI like a man and quit complaining like you sit down to pee. :gun:

In fact it is going fabulously for us, TY for noticing that were having the most fun weve had in YEARS along with a restoration of moral since curing our case of war blue balls. Our internal forums havent had this much joy in quite awhile and as a .gov member that brings me personally a lot of happiness along with a warm feeling of a job well done :wub:

Congrats on peace to all Involved, especially to our allies in Pacifica o/

Guess you should have talked to your saviors in Umbrella about not fucking with AI, slot filling and handing out a golden CB on a silver platter.... Oh well its all good, were having fun and its good to see you are too ;) Edit- after WC pointed it out below I fixed my typing fail

This post ^^^ explains the crux of the matter in Spades, anyone arguing against the above FACTS, is just trying to e-lawyer or spin the situation while drooling spittle out of the side of their mouth, kinda of like the words they post come out the side of their neck. Yes you have your BIBO 'policy' but pls refer me to the section in it that states 'Upon leaving Umbrella you will receive 6 nukes without being staggered and that we will coordinate such non-staggers within minutes of each other so that the 'leaving' Umbrella 'brother' can then pop into PM to restock nukes ad-infinitum in order to hit the alliance that you (WM especially along with M9P) stated you have wanted to war for ages..... Oh right, you cant show me that part of BIBO because it doesnt exist and your full of shit, and furthermore so is everything coming out of your mouth. Keep on saying it though Caliph and maybe you and your poor downtrodden and misunderstood mates will eventually believe it to be truth, but protip-no one else will as anyone with a modicum of brain cells can see and smell your bullshit from a mile away.

Congrats on having a good erection FARK'rs, i knew those little blue pills would work! :)

Iron, we should stop meeting like this, its unseemly....nahhh I kid I kid, we should actually do it more often ;)

For Jack Tarr my friends o7 @timmmeh, ohnoes our top tiers are losing NS....so are yours, and if ours lose NS faster then we shall just wait and fuck your mid tiers for lulz, or you gonna keep them in PM forever? If that scenario happens your top end can just sit around playing circle jerk with no targets while we ass fuck your mid down for as long as we desire. The ONLY place this war is close is top tier, sooo you either leave your mid in PM forever or they get their ass whooped. win win for me CJ

Welcome LoSS :) Good to see you ridin as they be hatin o7

Crymson you know its true, the only rebuttal was that the TOP individual whom made the comments about destroying us and our whole sphere etc was "he was just joking and it was supposed to have been sarcasm.....well I didnt see any /sarcasm line at the end of his proclamation so you can say it was sarcasticly made, or a joke or w/e but the fact remains the statement WAS said and if it WAS bs as you queried me to say then why did it take so long for TOP to say that to us? Makes it seem very disengenuous when the explanation comes weeks later and only after being mentioned here on the OWF by me... CJ

Yep, AI started this by filling M9P's slots so he could get to PM every time, in fact everyone agrees with you......ohh wai...except Admin whom deleted those wars and everyone else NOT fighting on your side :rolleyes:

[quote name='Merrie Melodies' timestamp='1358827559' post='3082865'] This is AI's first war, what exactly are you capable of? When this war is over, and if you win, then, and only then can you blather on about you're capabilities. Presently your a huge unknown. [/quote] Oh cmon MM, we maybe a 'new' alliance that is less then a yr old but were comprised of mostly people that are older AND experienced players from Oly, BAPS and Valhalla and to say any of the above doesnt have war skills is a stretch and to think we lost any of those during the 'merge' is also a pretty far stretch, but I like being underestimated so feel free to do so, makes things far easier in the backchannels while planning.

The bickering in here is just amazing......the first couple pages were all fun but now christ is just a circular "NO U", the plain facts are that MK were never going to be friends with AI and co, TOP make their stance perfectly clear when TOP posted they wanted to destroy AI, our whole sphere and anyone connected to us/it. They tried to bloc any treaties with AI inside PF and in so doing alienated what were your own bloc mates by choosing MK over them(so be it its your choice and sovereign right to do so. This has been building up for a long time and for any of you to argue that us ludicrous, Umbrella gave the opening and of course we took it(though imo I bet no one thought AI would do anything about it or Umbrella). So pls quit with all the other bs as anything but the above is just party lines or people talking out their neck. War is here, everyone wanted it, just enjoy the ride and bit of excitement this brings to Planet Bob. o/ Casualties, the only true winner in war

[quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1358719331' post='3081221'] After the initial strikes, tech becomes of greater importance as nukes start flying. Guess who has the tech advantage? [/quote] Im sure thats exactly what Ram thought also while fighting IRON, that only Tech adv matters and other numbers dont.

o/ to everyone involved, even Umbrella, lets all have some fun pew pew pew

GL FEAR, Im really glad to see that you guys decided to go with integrity and not just sit idle and silent in BFF, you are better then that and by coming back together to keep to your values shows that and is admirable. o/ FEAR

[quote name='Oranges' timestamp='1357818621' post='3073800'] A man with a straight flush does not bluff. [/quote] No but unless its a royal, you still can get beat.....[ooc] Ive seen honeymoon in Vegas [\ooc]

This is an announcement I can get behind! o/ Senguko, you guys have been nothing but a pleasure to work with and I look forward to watching you branch out and spread your wings as the future goes on

Congrats on a great friendship

Congrats GATO, good line up especially Chim /me tips my hat at Chimaera in salutations and congratulations