Froggor

A Sec General only has very limited sway. The true power lays in the hands of the GA. We are quite loud in speaking out if the Sec-gen or the Senate does something we dislike or supports something we dislike. Even Os has had some of his ideas shot down because the GA didn't like them.

I would prefer no one take individual surrender terms. We should fight until we are bloody pulp. Have a friendly peace with no more terms than the loser won't reenter the war. Then rebuild for future fights.

Nuke them until they glow NPO.

Wow that was dull. You should wait until you have something interesting to post. Be patient I am sure some interesting internal matter will come up. We can be loud mouthed arses to each other at times. That is just part of our type of democracy. This? This is just a boring ball of nothing.

Its rather silly to think we would ask for reps. If you want an idea of what we would ask for peace wise when you guys surrender take a look at the peace we gave to MCXA when they surrendered. Yours will look pretty much the same as far as ODN is concerned. We of course have no control over what the other alliances fighting you will ask but we won't be seeking reps.

Note Schattenmann I said were fighting not are fighting even you admitted you had expired MK wars. Since you did not surrender to MK and they were not declared rogues by MK by any definition you are still at war with them. That is all we need.

No you are not likely to get anything more from us. Our leader has already said his bit. We the members either agree with him or don't care one way or the other. And your constant whining isn't going to change that. Accept whats been said or don't. It changes nothing either way.

Who cares why we are in the war. we are in it. Just fight and shut up about it. As a member of ODN all that most of us care about is you were fighting MK our ally. We don't care who started it, we don't particularly care the reason behind it. You were fighting our ally and we are fighting you. Live with it and shut up.

I am not a fan of 3,4 or 6. And think that 5 and 7 could be game breakers in SE. 1,2,8 and 9 could be useful though.

Congrats! I hope this leads to something bigger and better.

We have no interest in disbanding anyone. We do have an interest in fighting and defeating The Legion. That is all. Personally if it was up to me all I would expect from The Legion is they fight, surrender, and the only terms they have to accept from ODN is they will not reenter this war or any linked wars such as the VE/NpO conflict. I truly doubt that ODN plans to offer them anything worse than that.

What the hell are you talking about? I was in The Legion in GWIII and fought FAN and don't remember anything like that at all.

Death to the Moralists! All Glory to Doomhouse!

There are quite a few alliances that have programs to help the small nations grow and to teach them the ins and outs of Planet Bob. Tech selling is part of that though. The alliances help you but you have to do your part to help too. Once you get to a certain size most alliances help turn you into a buyer rather than a seller. Now if you mean ignoring by not listening to their opinions on things again there are plenty of alliances out there that listen to any members opinion. You just have to work to find the right community.

Very honorable and respectable way to protect your allies Europa. I wish you a fun war and a quick rebuilding once the war is done.

Good Luck FnKa!

Interesting choice. Well good luck IRON and I hope this works out well for you.

Enjoy your trade treaty. While I doubt you will ever get all of orange in it I do hope its something that works out well for you guys.

Its all just silliness. The Mayans have no such prophacy and appearantly nothing that talks about the end of the world happening then, they just have a calendar that "ends" on a certain day. This has led to alot of people making up crap due to a poor and widely discredited reading of the calender. Its no more different than someone saying our calendar ends at Dec 31st the year 9999. All we would do is add another place and all that the end day on the Mayan calendar means is that the calendar would need to start from a new b'ak'tun the next day possibly with some religious observation or celebration attached to it if the mayans were still a nation. In fact if you work their calendar the way it should be worked we shouldn't even think of a real end date to it until the time comes to move up to the next step the piktun which happens on 13 October 4772 and even then there is no real end date there just a new system of numbering. So to be basic, nothing happens but a new cycle of the calendar starting which only would really mean anything to the Mayans.

Congrats to our good friends in Vanguard and to the Stickmen bloc as well!

Congrats DAWN! Glad to see you guys make it to 100 days.

Echelon - White Peace IRON - Very light similer to what GGA or MCXA got TPF - medium to high unless they are judged to be too smashed to pay much NPO - Very high, They have plenty of people hiding in Peace mode and are the chief criminals here. They should be forced to pay tons.

Farewell Vox...may you all find new homes that suit you well. And if you are needed again i hope to see you all rise up and fight the good fight!

Great to see this! Good luck my friends!

ODN didn't hit UPN, we hit FEAR who was helping UPN. TOP certainly did hit them though. edit: Note we did fight UCN as well thats where the confusion could have come in.