ColonelTom

IAA is indeed a classy group of friends. I appreciate their understanding and honorable actions. The lack of coordination and communication with them prior to the name change is entirely and 100% my fault and I ask that they please accept my apology. In the initial stages of the move, I was the only active member of GOV that could have contacted our friends and posted on OWF. Unfortunately, unforeseen obstacles on a planet other than Bob kept me from doing my job as honorably as they have done theirs. Also, thanks for the well wishes posted by our other friends in this thread!

Congratulations friends!

[quote name='Fernando12' timestamp='1294440502' post='2567748'] tKoI may end up having to disband and it's rulers reroll. [/quote] That won't be necessary. All is well on the Peninsula now that the backfired PR stunt has obviously failed, life is once again peaceful and prosperous despite the momentary drama.

[quote name='Cataduanes' timestamp='1294434661' post='2567646'] heh before you point the stick at Craig why don't you actually take the claims laid out by Nordreich in hand? have you actually been paying attention to proceedings? or is it a case that you see Craig as an easier target? Nevertheless the accusation that your alliance is guilty of questionable links with a certain questionable forum still stands, and as Craig succinctly pointed out you would be better served taking your moral indignation to Nordreich for further discussion, rather than beating your chest in some rather pathetic attempt to retort the claim with someone who has nothing to do with the original accusation in the first place. [/quote] I have posted in EVERY thread pertaining to this issue that there has been no proof whatsoever given by anyone and that both TGE and NoR, in my opinion acted wrongly. If there is sufficient proof that NoR should have dropped us, then they should now be giving me that proof so that I can make sure the evil cancer is fully removed from my membership. . .if there is no conclusive proof, then NoR should not have dropped us. Either way TGE AND NoR handled this one wrong, as lack of evidence shows. Rather than suggesting that I hadn't been paying attention, or that I was picking an easier target. . perhaps you should look at how many times I have repeated those same words in each thread. And since I, speaking personally and not officially, have taken a stand clear enough that anyone should know I don't go looking for 'easy targets'. Now, after all that redirect, misdirection and junk, WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?!?

[quote name='Comrade Craig' timestamp='1294434035' post='2567628'] Sorry... I did not intend to support the validity of the claims -- I was citing the publicly acknowledged justification for the actions that were taken. Apologies for any confusion, but I'm not always as precise with my language as I should be. I honestly have no position on whether the claims are true or not, however, Nordreich appears to have taken them very seriously. It would probably be more effective if you pleaded your case to them. -Craig [/quote] In that light, then please accept my apology and my handshake of friendship!

[quote name='Comrade Craig' timestamp='1294432862' post='2567606'] I didn't drop your treaty, friend. Save your moral indignation for them. -Craig [/quote] I'm quoting you and your words that spreads assumptions of guilt without proof. But if you acknowledge that you can't provide any conclusive proof either, then we're all good friend.

[quote name='Finnish Commie' timestamp='1294420531' post='2567390'] Well I've seen the logs and you were actually taking part in the conversations so I would assume you'd know [/quote] well I certainly haven't! can you get ME the proof? The elusive Holy Grail?

*edited* sorry about the double post

[quote name='Comrade Craig' timestamp='1294422581' post='2567420'] I can't help but concede that point. Nordreich signed a treaty with exactly the type of people with whom it has been trying to distance itself. Embarassing information comes to light that causes Nordreich to drop the treaty like a hot potato. And you skillfully expose the "truth": it's all TGE's fault. I bow to a master. -Craig [/quote] Exactly what 'kind of people' are you alleging us to be? Your words assume TKoI guilt. I'm assuming that you possess some proof (other than the echos of other ditto heads repeating what someone else said) that supports YOUR words of conviction? [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1294425435' post='2567463'] A decision must have been taken to ignore the WS nature of the KoI [/quote] This is such crap. I guess you have convicting proof? BTW, I am getting at tired of posting these demands for proof as everyone else is of reading them. . but when people slander TKoI they should be ashamed.

[quote name='Mark Thomas' timestamp='1294367270' post='2566588'] This is no show, I assure you. I, for one, believe in diplomacy. This was the right thing to do, so I did it. I can only hope that relationships can be mended. That's all. Thank you, all. [/quote] What a nice PR stunt! I know everyone is extremely interested in the TGE / NoR back-story; it makes good soap opera drama. . . but has anyone noticed that there has been absolutely NO CREDIBLE PROOF given to the very alliance where the accused formerly resided? If this was about doing what was right, there would be conclusive evidence and not just allegations. If TKoI was a hot bed of racism, which it isn't, then shouldn't that evidence be given to the new leader in order to clean house? The fact that there is no concrete evidence makes me doubt the credibility of the decisions made by both TGE and NoR. You mention the fact that you hope that relationships can be mended . . and some have mentioned the relationships between the large alliances of NoR and TGE. . but what about the TKoI relationships? What about the reputation of the accused. In as much as people as so quick to attack the injustice of alleged racism, then why is the right of innocence until proven guilty and the ability of the accused to face their accuser to be ignored? As far as I'm concerned, and speaking for myself personally, this apology is just a public relations stunt. Also, why does this PR stunt apologize to NoR? TKoI is the one that got harmed, and it was the individual accused rulers that was harmed (NO conclusive proof has been offered yet.) This will be my last time to demand evidence to be sent to me, via private channel. There is no way that both NoR and TGE are ignorant of my request. . . to deny me this 'evidence' would indicate that there is no evidence. Someone 'man up' and either send the proof or apologize to the falsely accused pertaining the slanderous accusations. ColonelTom King of The Kingdom of Italy

[quote name='Vladimir Nikanor' timestamp='1294336384' post='2565985'] I like your initiative Tom. I wish the people of The Kingdom of Italy peace and a good future under these new rulings. [/quote] [quote name='Ashoka the Great' timestamp='1294337020' post='2565996'] Good luck, TKoI. This entire situation has been regrettable in far too many ways. [/quote] Thank you Vladimir. Peace and prosperity shall continue to be our lot hopefully. Additionally, Ashoka you are very right, if it had been handled better at the beginning of the allegations, it would not have become such a huge ordeal and our treaty might have been saved. By the way, I still have not been given ANY evidence AT ALL of any wrong doing by anyone. Ironic considering the size of the drama.

We thank our friends at the IAA for their decision to extend their earlier treaty (with IR) to our newly merged TKOI. I look forward to building upon this and applaud our loyal friends.

[quote name='Karl Peters' timestamp='1294275634' post='2565046'] [img]http://i51.tinypic.com/2dqt3l3.jpg[/img] There ya go. It wasn't months it was days! [/quote] This does constitute proof yet, it just shows that there was a post in your forums about the topic. . And I can't tell the link that supposedly contains the proof from the picture. Send me the link to the proof via PM please.

[quote name='Fernando12' timestamp='1294274414' post='2565010'] Look it... Being racist is not a crime and rulers shouldn't have their nations obliterated for it. If you know for a fact that some of your members are racist and you don't want them in the alliance then just expel them. Anyone wanting to declare war on them should do it for IC reasons and not OOC reasons. This really has to be some of the worst drama I have ever seen on planet bob and shouldn't even be public, keep this !@#$ off the forums and deal with it privately. [/quote] I don't know if that was directed at me or just to people in general, yet I will respond. I do agree that Planet Earth actions are not punishable on Planet Bob. However, having said that, racism is now officially illegal in The Kingdom of Italy on Planet Bob.

[quote name='Captain Flinders' timestamp='1294272897' post='2564960'] Let us be clear on this. This is not a witch hunt. Yes, Nordreich is acting upon information of an "off-world" nature, but the extent of our actions ends with this cancellation. And as stated in the OP, we wish all those not implicated in the evidence good luck and prosperity in whatever path they choose. [/quote] Could you please send me this "evidence" so that it can be properly dealt with? Thanks.

[center][img]http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee457/Awesomeone99/tkoiheader.jpg[/img][/center] [font="Calibri"][size="3"][center][b][u][size="7"]Royal Proclamation[/size][/u][/b][/center] [font="Calibri"][size="3"][/size][/font]I hereby announce formally to our friends everywhere that as Prime Minister of The Kingdom of Italy (TKoI), upon the abdication of our former King (Mussolini the Great), and in accordance with original plans of succession, I have assumed the role of both King and Prime Minister (until such time as I name a new PM).[/size][/font] [font="Calibri"][size="3"]Therefore, as both Head of Government and Head of State for The Kingdom of Italy, I hereby announce the following:[/size][/font] [font="Calibri"][size="3"][/size][/font] [font="Calibri"][size="3"]1.[/size][/font] [size="3"][font="Calibri"]The Kingdom of Italy is deeply sorrowed by the events and allegations of the past 24 hours;[/font][/size] [font="Calibri"][size="3"]2.[/size][/font] [font="Calibri"][size="3"]The Kingdom of Italy categorically abhors racism in all its various forms and will not tolerate it in its government or membership in any form;[/size][/font] [font="Calibri"][size="3"]3.[/size][/font] [font="Calibri"][size="3"]The Kingdom of Italy is a sovereign alliance and reserves the right of due process for all its membership as well as its sole right to try and punish its membership for crimes;[/size][/font] [font="Calibri"][size="3"]4.[/size][/font] [font="Calibri"][size="3"]The Kingdom of Italy calls upon all persons having any evidence regarding allegations of wrongdoing within our membership to do the honorable thing and provide them to ColonelTom immediately via private channels, otherwise we will recognize these heinous allegations as false. This is in accordance with due process standards of civilized people everywhere without evidence, innocence must be presumed;[/size][/font] [font="Calibri"][size="3"]5.[/size][/font] [font="Calibri"][size="3"]The Kingdom of Italy abhors the pseudo-diplomatic techniques used against us and expects more professionalism in the future;[/size][/font] [font="Calibri"][size="3"]6.[/size][/font] [font="Calibri"][size="3"]The Kingdom of Italy assures Planet Bob that if convincing evidence is presented that substantiate the accusations that have been leveled, then conviction and appropriate punishment will be applied (up to and including expulsion or worse).[/size][/font] [font="Calibri"][size="3"]7.[/size][/font] [font="Calibri"][size="3"]Lastly, it is my hope that new friendships and relationships can be built between The Kingdom of Italy and other equally sovereign alliances; bringing peace, liberty and prosperity to all. [b]King of The Kingdom of Italy:[/b] ColonelTom [b]The Kingdom of Italy's Government also includes:[/b] Minister of the Interior: Giovanni Martini Minister of Finance and Trade: RichardReich Minister of War: rollypolly [/size][/font]

[quote name='Mussolini the Great' timestamp='1294265921' post='2564753'] This just in: TKoI drops TGE and goes to Nordreich, and all of a sudden, mysterious, elaborate logs pop up of us all being racists. Coincidence? I don't think so, but I will let you decide on that one. I still respect NoR, and I completely understand why they did what they had to do. Thing is, these logs are super elaborate, and we just have no means of proving their fabrication. Prop's to whom ever made these, because they certianly are elaborate. Nordreich are the coolest guys iv met in Planet Bob, and I hold nothing up the upmost respect for them. TGE, however, has proven it's self to be a snake entity once again, I am sad to say. These logs have also put me in a very bad position, so it is my deepest regret that I must step down as King of TKoI. I wish NoR and TKoI the best of luck. TGE? Heh. o/ NoR o/ TKoI [/quote] I have been out of circulation due to illness and holidays in the Kingdom of Henry. However, I feel compelled to state that I as Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Italy, and upon original plans of sucession, hereby assume the position of both Head of Government and Head of State for the Kingdom of Italy. I ask that all parties with information pertaining to this problem please contact me, and an official statement will be forthcoming very soon. I will, however, categorically state that the Kingdom of Italy, has and will always continue to be 100% opposed to racism and it will NOT be tolerated in any form within our membership. ColonelTom King & Prime Minster Kingdom of Italy

Please not the "edit" of the original post in this thread for new "terms" of transactions.

Hail Carpatus! Hail Roman Empire! Let the wars begin!

[quote name='Chintan' timestamp='1282264492' post='2423653'] I think the tech sellers might need to be reminded to not accept $3M from someone when a $3M aid payment just expired, and they're due to send 50 tech using that slot. And buyers need to be wary of sending new tech sellers $3M when they have $3M aid payments which just expired recently, without first asking whether they completed those deals. [/quote] They are being instructed not to accept new without leaving enough slots open to send out what is owed. anyone else out there want to give buyers a warning? come on, there must be more people out there with no trust that like to scare off potential buyers. . come on?? anyone? I realize that very few people out there believe in honor and a person's word anymore. . that really is sad. . . but even you that have posted warnings earlier. . come back and post whether or not the situation is being handled or not? I assure you, it costs more than a few million dollars to buy my good name. I have said it many times before and this is the last time I intend on saying it again. IF anyone does NOT get their tech, let me know. I will get the people to send it. IF for some reason I have a nation that refuses to pay it and has an empty slot then I will get it paid by someone else. If there is a newbie that has tied up their slots, then it will be late this first time. . but it won't happen again. That promise should be good enough.

[quote name='Chintan' timestamp='1282105977' post='2421160'] Some of your sellers really need to get Foreign Ministries. [/quote] Indeed they do, and that is why we are being so aggressive with the tech plan, in hopes of building up these new nations. [quote name='Friar' timestamp='1282171973' post='2422124'] Lets see how the guarantee works! I sent 2 nations listed above $3 million each for 50 tech. The deal expired 2 days ago; one nation has not checked in which is understandable to a degree. The other nation, "Danielish Empire" has pretty much told me I'm not getting it. And yes I do have a screen shot of the transaction and messages from Danielish Empires leader "King Daniel the best" that will validate what I am saying. [/quote] Guaranteed means guaranteed! only a couple hours ago was I made aware of the problem. Give me time to fix it before you guys start trashing everyone. If I could log into all of their accounts (which obviously I can't) then things would work perfectly, or nearly so at least, but since I can't. . its takes a little more time. [quote name='Jonesing' timestamp='1282173666' post='2422175'] I'm also having trouble getting Tech back. Who are we meant to contact to get this sorted or what is the procedure? [/quote] You should contact myself or Varianz (Tibs) [quote name='Friar' timestamp='1282174004' post='2422191'] As I see it this is the best place to start once they have failed to keep their end of the contract. Our investment most likely is gone, however these posts may serve as a warning to other tech buyers to steer clear from incompetent dealers or possible thieves such as these. Let the buyer beware... [/quote] buyers, if you aren't going to allow for extremely inexperienced nations to make a delay or mistake or to (even when guaranteed) then indeed beware. . but if you remember what it was like to learn, then we're still open for business. [quote name='evulfuson' timestamp='1282174808' post='2422207'] I've sent 3M to 3 nations. Since these deals are guaranteed, I'd say take them up with Colonel Tom if you have any problems. [/quote] Thank you, that is the best post so far and I appreciate you for it. I will indeed make sure that every deal is made right. [quote name='Friar' timestamp='1282175941' post='2422240'] I've messaged him. Hope that he is able to get these nations to do the right thing or make good on his word to ensure delivery. [/quote] I will get it right. If for some reason they refuse to listen to my direction, then I will still make it right some other means. I do request in the future that all nations having any difficulty receiving their tech (on time even) to drop me a note in game and I will "get on it" and make sure that it is handled. I would appear that one or two have overloaded their aid slots this time from making bad choices. We will still make each deal right! If there are any other people having similar problems. .please don't post here . . . send me a message and if I dont' fix it. . then by all means. . come here and trash me !

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[quote name='Squid33' timestamp='1282069094' post='2419961'] I voted Confusion 'cause I him [/quote] amazing that someone does! [quote name='Bionic redhead' timestamp='1282076788' post='2420156'] I'm annoyed that I can only select one person ... [/quote] I'm annoyed that I can't vote for one person twice! If this were serious, instead of in good fun, I'm have no confusion at all which of the listed would WALK AWAY with the votes OVERWHELMINGLY!

[quote name='Mikeyrox' timestamp='1281842948' post='2416280'] LIES! Those opinions are mine Tom, you stole them [/quote] oh no I didn't. . I have a copyright on those opinions! LOL [quote name='lonewolfe2015' timestamp='1281843707' post='2416293'] #1 in ghosts, I am not afraid to say that had NB turned its full attention on RE we would have wiped the floor with you. And how do I know this? I used to lead MHA. [/quote] Shoulda, coulda, woulda. . . again the bottom line is: we've been getting it done. btw everyone. . . Night all!