flak attack

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1343222702' post='3015047'] Whew! Tom Brady yet lives. [/quote] Someone really should let him know that UJW is over, though.

This is the third year. Things aren't looking so great for him yet.

[quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1343095614' post='3014019'] Pick a better spy next time MK. [/quote] Are you really trying to twist this as us spying? That's hilarious.

We're growing far too soft in our old age.

[quote name='MitchellBade' timestamp='1343088633' post='3013886'] OH GAWD NOW EVERYONE KNOWS THE ANSWERS TO THE LAST EIGHT QUESTIONS OF OUR ACADEMY EXAM!!! [img]http://cn-tio.com/images/smilies/panicmode.gif[/img] [/quote] Actually, only 7 of 8. One of those is wrong.

[quote name='Artigo' timestamp='1342737345' post='3012295'] I personally would push for lenient terms in the event they brought their top tiers out of PM. [/quote] Same here. A lot of us don't want reps from SF/XX (they suck too much for it to be efficient for my tech growth).

[quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1342723690' post='3012134'] You didnt refute his claim. Not that it matters MK and co have whitewashed their whole history. MK even claim every war they fought in was a victory and any thing that shines a negative light on them has been erased from their official history. All their lapdogs happily regurgitate the message their master wants. http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4854/54881533.png [/quote] You don't get political satire, do you?

I see through your clever plan, Myth. You're just doing this for PR. But seriously, I'm starting a new job shortly and will get paid in a month or so. Once I have money, I'll throw some in.

[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1342408435' post='3010636'] I ended up quickly learning that once disagreements start appearing, you need to cave or they're going to hate you. I'd rather have no part of that. [/quote] You really learned the wrong thing from all our discussions. It's not disagreement that MK disliked about you. It was that you pitched a fit about your disagreement too late for anything to change and then never offered any alternative at all.

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1342385764' post='3010541'] I've heard this argument before and I don't buy it. Just b/c you say you are going to say something doesn't suddenly justify it. ODN had to have been a willing participant in the plotting against SF and XX, which obviously includes Sparta, and if I found out that my ally was plotting against me, then I would be upset. [/quote] You make it sounds like most of XX/SF was worth plotting against. The actions of that war were aimed at two alliances: GOD and NpO. I don't recall Sparta being allies with either of them at that point.

[quote name='OsRavan' timestamp='1342365158' post='3010481'] You are complaining that ODN didn't follow sparta into war (and I wont even bother e-lawyering to show you the half dozen flaws in that logic.) I could just as easily complain sparta didn't follow ODN in that war. Its silly. You chose to ride with your bloc XX in an aggressive war against NPO. Good for you, it was probably the smart move for sparta. But we get back to the hypocrisy then. A little hypocritical of you to be complaining ODN didnt join the XX side of that war, when you werent joining the cng side. [/quote] This is a very solid point. Didn't Sparta have more allies on the other side of the war than ODN? Why weren't you helping ODN, Asgaard or Umbrella?

[quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1342304523' post='3010254'] We can take Valhalla. We can take all the alliances. Uropah for lief or something. But seriously, Valhalla would kill us, not even gonna BS with the childish bravado and !@#$. Cybernations. [/quote] Given recent events, I would think it would be pretty easy to take down everyone on the Valhalla AA.

[quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1342245718' post='3010025'] I'd do this. [/quote] Let me guess, she's either 2, 12 or 17.

Well, at least no one has gone full Legion yet.

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1342230087' post='3009928'] Can you provide stats for how many nations produce cheesecake? I feel this would be more useful than peace mode stats. [/quote] http://www.cybernations.net/search_advanced_trades.asp?resources=%2BCattle%2B&resources=%2BWheat%2B&selectioncriteria=0&team=Any&Strength1=&Strength2=&B1=Search+Nations 131

[quote name='Ogaden' timestamp='1342221977' post='3009882'] That 3mil sure helps against my nukes and wonders. [/quote] Considering that we have plenty of nations at your size with the same wonders, they don't really make much of a difference. quiz, BD or RV would have no problem with you.

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1342214108' post='3009838'] Only NPO had lapdogs, but not MK [/quote] MK hates lapdog alliances regardless of side. If there's an alliance we perceive as a lapdog, we won't get close to them. Consider this, there are plenty of alliances out there that would love a chance to become MK's lapdog, yet in the past year, we've upgraded one treaty (NoR), dropped one (FOK) and signed another (NG). Given that a startling number of the names on the MK-FOK treaty were in NG at the time of the signing of that treaty (literally over half of the FOK signatures), it hardly counts as a change of policy. When our friends changed AA, we changed our treaty. MK could have signed a dozen treaties with lapdog alliances over that time, yet we chose not to because we're not in the collecting business.

[quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1342210464' post='3009798'] He has a completely legitimate point. It's not about peace mode itself, but rather, utilization. I don't see how that argument is illegitimate. [/quote] Because it shows that he actually thinks he can stick his head in the ground and pretend our top tier doesn't exist when it's dropping billions of dongs down on the lower tier, giving them a decisive advantage.

[quote name='the rebel' timestamp='1342213883' post='3009833'] Jesus Christ! This is why I hate war these days on bob. Peacemode this peacemode that all throughout the war without missing a day, go out and get laid people. [/quote] It's almost like you're a bad ripoff of detlev. You even used his catch phrase.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1342202922' post='3009757'] This poll was destined for doom from the start, the definition of lap dog is much too vague. There are 3 types of lapdogs (in the realm of CN that is) as far as I'm concerned. You have those that are used for their NS in order to achieve a (usually common) goal without significantly hurting the "master" (for lack of a better term). This was recently seen when MK "used" the mjolnir bloc to roll SF. Now Mjolnir won't say they were lapdogs because they wanted to roll SF, but the fact that MK/DH/PB was able to use that desire to roll SF to take the most of the damage in that war causes them to be lapdogs in that example as far as I'm concerned. Another example of this, for those that prefer historical ones, is the unholy treaty between MK and TOP. Both parties there knew the treaty was not there for a friendship, it was put in place because it ensured Polaris would be kept down as long as that treaty was in place. TOP was livid about bipolar, and MK capitalized on that. The second type of lapdog is the one who obediently does whatever is asked of them from the master. We saw this best in the NPO era where alliances such as GGA would do anything asked of them. This usually occurs with much smaller alliances clinging onto their main tie into the treaty web though. I think a prime example of this is when that tiny 10 (?) man alliance declared in defense of NPO while the coalition of cowards was doing their coward thing. No one remembers what that alliance was called, yet they declared because of the agora accords (red/blue economic pact, why do I remember that?). The third type is the unaligned alliance that just goes with the power sphere. This alliance usually thinks that they are serving their best interests by making sure they put themselves on the victorious side of the battle, but they usually end up furthering the agenda of the puppet master. A prime example of this (prior to this war) is VE. Contrary to popular belief, they were not aligned to MK when they pulled the MK/VE stunt on Legion during the Legion/Tetris war. I'm sure at the time they thought that they were asserting their dominance over the world by forcing an end to a war which involved their ODP ally but in the end (when it came out that MK went to them in order to facilitate this stunt and not vice versa) they came off as a pawn. [/quote] Other than your first, second and fourth paragraphs, this is a spot on analysis based on actual fact.

[quote name='Prodigal Moon' timestamp='1342158913' post='3009594'] Got to be honest here: some of the NATO comments in the DoW had me expecting a bit more than 2 rounds of war. You still deserve some credit for actually following through on your treaty. [/quote] Yes, but NATO actually gave us a couple of rounds of war, instead of falling over and putting their heads in the ground.

[quote name='KFedistan' timestamp='1342152085' post='3009519'] Thank you for reminding the KFedi armed forces that they're very, very rust. Your combined devastating counters on my poorly timed late entry will take them a few months to recover from. [/quote] With any luck, we'll both hit that next million in casualties this round.

That's for letting the big boys come out and play. Seriously, you guys earned some respect points for nutting up and actually fighting us at the top.

[quote name='Thrash' timestamp='1342140636' post='3009437'] Who's the other two? [/quote] I'll give NATO credit where credit is due and assume that there's a small third alliance over there fighting that I haven't noticed. That hypothetical third one is the reason I said roughly.

[quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1342092405' post='3009043'] I remember that fork in the road. Being part of the hegemony again was so tempting. I imagine when MK get theirs TOP will be looking to the next hegemony for company. [/quote] Remember that time that IRON was pretty much the only alliance on your side Cit was tied to? Maybe there was a reason they chose not to tie themselves to the rest of you. Hmmm, makes you think... [quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1342117283' post='3009279'] "We may act like we don't think, but if you saw the real us you'd see otherwise." How do you make such an argument with a straight face? [/quote] So we don't think, yet we somehow have managed to play the politics in the right way to help build a network of alliances that has kept your nose in the ground for 3 years? Doesn't say much about you, does it?