Noctis Lucis Caelum

That was referencing removal in general, since NoR wanted all of them removed. So if my removal would get rid of the last of them; I'd be willing to leave it to an alliance vote if it would be worth getting rid of my nation as well for the rest to have peace. Although I think they'd choose to go down to fighting over choosing that option, even knowing I'd choose for all of us to go down fighting over considering the terms offered. So you got the context a bit off with that; since for NoR how someone is removed wouldn't matter as much as them being gone. (If I'm also gone it wouldn't matter if I removed them or NoR)

(12/8/2017 2:34:39 PM) Noctis Lucis Caelum removed and banned Sir Kindle from the alliance Aevrum. Possible to check these things. (Also never said I banned Martin; just mentioned he was banned. (So even if NoR never claimed him a reason for the war, he's gone anyways.)

Since you keep continuing down this lie and slander; I'll post what I messaged your gov as I kicked Yolo & later my offer my boot Sir Kindle before update. (First Day). First message came when I saw the initial DoW and hadn't even caught up on what happened yet. Although I did kick Yolo right away, but didn't have time to look into Sir Kindle's role yet. (Normally I wouldn't post private correspondence on OWF; although seems this is needed for you to believe it happened. Noctis Lucis Caelum-11/30/2017 Want to see if we can deescalate this? War with Nordreich wasn't my intention, I still haven't had a chance to talk with Sir Kindle about this, been busy today. Keysariyt Hanssen-11/30/2017 We will present to you the terms of your surrender shortly. December 1, 2017 Noctis Lucis Caelum-12/01/2017 What if we kick Sir Kindle and you can settle this with Sir Kindle & Yolo. You guys stop with sanctions and we can avoid anything messy; we quitely peace out. Keysariyt Hanssen-12/01/2017 I'm afraid that won't be sufficient. Nordreich has to send a message that she will not accept infractions against her sovereignty. I'm sure you understand.

I think you're a little mixed up. I banned Sir Kindle, then Yolo joined him (already banned) & Sir Kindle seems to have recruited some new nations.

I offered to remove Sir Kindle if it would bring peace on Day 1 before update, they refused the offer. They resisted any deals and ignored all good will gestures without peace attached. They're liars. Especially the claims of the terms we're being offered being the same as yours. If voting you one month for Senate would get us peace, maybe I'd consider it. What they want is much more and call it fair because of what Oculus offered you guys (which was much lighter)

Your entire post was wrong. Also I don't expect assistance, just wanted to make a distinction I haven't completely quit yet; even if functionally this will be the closest I do to a goodbye thread & likely my last. Although in-game I fully intend to damage you guys as much as I can, for as long as we can. I wanted people to remember me for more than just a few micro skirmishes when I was already pretty much on my way out and making a last go at things. Edit: As for your claim of the terms being fair; I'd much rather delete my own nation in exchange for the rest of the alliance getting white peace. (Since apparently removing Sir Kindle, Yolo & Martin wasn't enough.) If deleting my nation would get Aevrum white peace, without any punishment to those remaining; I'd put that up for a member vote and delete my nation so they can have untarnished peace without hesitation if that's the outcome. Although all of Aevrum will fight until annialation over accepting terms like what was offered over this skirmish.

With it looking like this may be my last war without some kind of miracle, I was thinking back to some of the many wars I've fought over the years. I've fought wars from all positions of power, as an underdog, on the winning side, etc. So even if I'll already made to many enemies to get the assistance required to fund a war long enough war to outlast NoR's desire for unacceptable peace terms, I've already had a fulfilling CN Career. Bouncing back from this would require another miracle, but they've happened before for me. So guess its not over until we're all bill locked with no incoming aid or assistance on the way. I'll update this list with more wars I've fought, since there are so many even with this many the list is far from complete. War of the Coalition (My first nuclear war) Gave up my recent promotion to High Court Judge in the FCC in order to assist our MDoAP allies in Mushroom Kingdom; against unwinnable odds. Karma War (Brought the FCC into its first nuclear war fully prepared & the alliance performed excellent.) BiPolar War (Fighting for NSO) I know I fought FOK, Fark, CSN, Guru Order & likely others as a member of NSO in this one. Second Grämlins-IRON War During this war I felt a sense of kinship with IRON/TOP; even though NSO was fighting on different fronts. Fought the best the enemy had to throw at me in both phases of the BiPolar War as a member of NSO. Although when IRON was kept at war unjustly and I still had fight in me, I ended up leaving after NSO had peace to continue fighting to assist IRON. My involvement wasn't really recorded here, but this is when I first went off AA to fight on my own. GOONS-CSA War Helping out this CSA alliance who was being destroyed by GOONS is how my first war with them started; although it continued long after CSA (Who I tried assisting) had already perished; developing into the KN-GOONS Wars & eventually the conflict they called Roguefest 2010 KN-GOONS War (Paved the way for Roguefest 2010) (^My response when they wanted me to make them a full comic about subject matter of their choosing, lol) Never actually admitted defeat which I can recall. Was banned from the main forum when they approached me offering tech deals and a bonus slot of aid as part of a peace. I agreed and they portrayed it as a surrender; with me not really paying attention to the wiki or what the outcomes recorded for wars were. Six Million Dollar War I think what happened here is I sent aid to a NSO nation and VE wanted me to send aid to 2 of their nations to compensate. I chose to fight against the odds instead. DH-NPO War Declared in favor of NPO against impossible odds, because I felt the them continuing to be rolled and put under harsh terms were unjust. I respect how NPO managed to come back from it all through hard work. Equilibrium War Fought as a member of Confederatio Aesir. Fought MK & others alliances beyond TOP; however I did end up fighting some nations from TOP in the war as well. AE-Limitless Nexus War AE declared on Limitless Nexus with no legit CB and disbanded when they were losing. Bron-Yr-Aur Stomp aka (Another) Kashmir War First Kashmir War I ended up fighting their entire upper tier for a round to free Stonewall from their PZI list, after he applied for membership and they attacked him while on my AA. III%-LN War Won the Senate Legit on Brown & managed to keep it despite incoming sanctions; as well as continued wars with others after peacing III%. Dre4m War Three Strikes COBRA War Guess the name comes from COBRA being split in 3 from the whole ordeal. War on Brown Terrorism Aevum-Mechanicus War Gh0s7busting War Aevrum Campaign We have no intention of accepting the terms given to us and will fight on instead. Any who want to join us in fighting Nordreich would be welcome to fight with us; although thanks to everyone who made things fun if this does become the end of the line for me! Its been an interesting year either way; with everything which has happened. Others can also use this thread to post a list of alliance wars they've fought in if they want. All things end eventually, but our memories of the fun times don't need to disappear.

I think his comment could have been poking fun at their German Nationalistic theme; people talk about destroying their enemies in all kind of ways in heated banter. An oven reference to an enemy trying to purge them isn't necessarily antisemitic; unless someone is being way overly sensitive and wanting to get rid of someone who was crushing them in regular warfare. Hanssen was dropping fast and went from sending aid out, to being on welfare. The round with Martin had just began also.

Well, the war still continues. Although we got screwed pretty badly.

The mods decided to hand Nordreich the win, by banning Martin & his $4b Warchest over saying "to the oven for you" to Hanssen in a PM when under military attack and constant sanctions from her. Dumb thing to say? Yeah, he shouldn't have said it. Not worth screwing up the game by banning more people over though.

Aevrum Preamble Aevrum was established to create a home for forward thinking nations, who desire to establish a golden age of peace, growth, and prosperity throughout Planet Bob. Although we desire peace, we are more than willing to ensure future peace if it means present war. We were founded in the midst of war and are no strangers to the battlefield. All nations who request membership agree to adhere to this Charter. Article I: Membership I.a Application All applicants to Aevrum must fulfill the following requirements: - Be trustworthy and Loyal. Be willing to fight when called upon. - Receive approval from the King or Minister of Recruitment. I.b Structure Nobles - Outstanding members who have proved themselves through Service to our Noble House. These nations have been granted their nobility by the King, and hold various titles to display their Royal ranking. General - A solider who has shown exceeding honor and valor on the battlefield. 2 Star, 3 Star, 4 Star & 5 Star General are also attainable ranks. Member of the Court - A new member, or a member who contributes to the alliance economically and supports our cause, but has never shed blood for the Royal House. Article II: Government King - Absolute ruler of the Royal House of Aevum. Limited only to the individual nation guaranteed rights, freedoms, and privileges found in the charter. Nations have the freedom to run their country as they see fit as long as it doesn’t violate the Royal House of Aevrum rules found in our Charter. But alliance matters as a whole is ultimately decided by the sovereign King. The King oversees alliance affairs, and dictates policy through his ministers. Diplomats - Diplomats are sent to other alliances and their forums to help improve diplomatic relations. A nation can only be a diplomat to one alliance at a time. Article III: War III.a War Authorization No aggressive actions are allowed without prior government authorization. Aggressive actions by any Aevrum member without prior authorization from the Monarch will be dealt with by a hearing before the ruler or their appointed representative, and possible punishment up to banishment or ZI. III.b Royal War Powers At any time, the King may declare an alliance war. III.c Nuclear Development Nuclear proliferation is highly encouraged. In times of war, when aggression or defense has been authorized, Aevrum shall have a Nuclear first strike policy. Article IV: Amendments Any member of the Aevrum in good standing may at any time offer up an amendment to this charter, whereupon a vote of the Nobles will be held. The amendment must reach 2/3 approval before being ratified. Article V: Rejoining The Alliance - Any member who leaves the alliance instead of facing a trial for violations of the Charter or who decides to try and harm the alliance in any way on their way out or after leaving (including but not limited to coaxing members to leave, spreading rumors with intent to make members leave, taking money, or instigating hostilities with another alliance) will not be allowed to rejoin at any time in the future, and may be placed on a ZI list. Signed, Noctis Lucis Caelum, King of Aevrum Accepting New Members! We have a policy to never surrender, value our honor over our stats and have won against odds most would consider impossible. We welcome all warriors who think they have what it takes to join us, especially more nuclear capable fighters looking for action! Discord Channel: https://discord.gg/xYushD4 Alliance Stats: http://www.cybernations.net/alliance_stats.asp?ID=15326 Aevrum Forum: http://aevrum.com/ Using our Forum & Discord Channel is not required for membership, apply in-game if you're interested in joining!

Congrats on the treaty.

Is it that time of year already? Have fun. Fun Fact: Ordo Mechanicus lost to Aevum 2 days into the first Aevum Mechanicus War; which wasn't recorded in the wiki by anyone due to its short length. It was featured in IRON's newspaper with balanced reporting of it. It happened shortly before the Gh0s7busting War, with Aevum having 2 members at the start and Ordo Mechanicus having had 28.

Somehow I looked at the wrong number when decommissioning to get in range of Gh0s7 and managed to put myself in Anarchy embarrassingly enough. Although I didn't want to wait and I didn't really orchestrate it. As Gh0s7 was requesting me sanctioned everywhere and threatening me for no good reason, I was given a useable CB. At the time especially I had good reason to pass it along, considering Gh0s7 was trying to screw me over with everything he could use.

I honestly believe your terms are so far off base, it wouldn't have made a difference if you demanded I decommission my MP in there.

Even if I'm no longer an enemy of TTK, you should worry more about your own alliance than mine. Non Grata never even declared and Caustic is of course a special exception.

Except they're not and that's why I'm rejecting; while choosing to fight Guerrilla Warfare to wear you guys down instead. There is always an option. Even if the DoW by Yolo was wrong, I've just attempted to resolve the incident and just gotten unrealistic/opportunistic terms; which I have a hard time believing you thought would be accepted ever. So I think you're in the wrong by overplaying your hand in demands, even initially we may have been in the wrong before I booted Yolo and attempted to resolve this.

I'm well aware I got screwed with that DoW as soon as I saw and this was going to be problem if you wanted to make it into one. I would be willing apologize for the mistake if you guys were willing to peace this out without the disproportionate terms. Having the upper hand doesn't mean you can make all the unrealistic demands you want and have them fulfilled. You chose difficult terms because you're not really interested, also its your side who continues making new threads to keep posting about this war in]. If your side stopped making new threads to spin this war to suit your agenda in, I wouldn't really be motivated to keep posting about it.

You gained a bunch of opportunist bandwaggoners who don't care what is right or wrong; since I never even wanted to start this war and tried seeing if it could be peaced out when I saw what had happened. We'll see how the long the more rational ones support you, who might have assisted due to initial outrage at Yolo's DoW and miscommunication. Although you did pick up most of those I was fighting in The Aevrum Campaign. You guys have moved your entire active lower to peace mode, so its not like Nordreich looks to be planning to do much fighting yourselves in this war even if you drag it out.

I'm not the one who keeps spamming more threads on it, that's the other side. Also their terms offered are insane, I don't even why they want to keep so many of our members sanctioned. (WTF is the reason Chester is getting sanctioned for example and why do they want to be able to continue sanctioning him uninterrupted?) There are huge problems with each of the laundry list of terms they want.

I haven't had a chance to rebuild, since I fought in both wars preceding this one recorded in the wiki (Gh0s7busting War & The Aevrum Campaign) This is pretty much a continuation of the last one almost, with me still not having collected after The Aevrum Campaign. I had enough slots open bringing in a partial slot of aid was worth accepting; also almost everyone I've been fighting has been reliant on aid or tech deals themselves to keep fighting. Just how lower tier fighting is.

Good luck with the new alliance and congrats!

I've lost track of how many AAs are struggling to hold us down, but I prefer to go by Aevrum. What is TDB?

I tried discussing peace with them in private early on and they had no interest.

I doubt it. I think you guys were likely planning this Senate stunt ever since bringing Mogar in, which was before I found out about the DoW. I think enough people in your gov didn't like how I won the Senate, there was no real chance for peace from the start.