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I'm in for white three. lumber/wheat

There should be more 1v1, do it

[quote name='Demag' timestamp='1299711436' post='2658020'] The Brain-SLCB treaty is an MDP it would of required LoSS to hit SLCB to activate it. Sad to see this considering the solidarity you guys showed with the kerfuffles with USN and UPN, though you still got the chestnut accords so it's all swings and roundabouts I guess. [/quote] Someone once said that it is our illusions that create our world. 90% of CN politics is smoke and mirrors. Although it pains me to see old friends drift apart, I don't blame them for the paths they have chosen, they're obviously quite different.

[quote name='Dexomega' timestamp='1299355095' post='2653650'] To my knowledge USN went after Cam on their own. Then again Alt and Cora are married so if you want to play that card go right ahead. [/quote] USN ordered their nations to attack me, after speaking with USN leadership (Cora) they informed me that they were asked for help and complied. None of the USN nations attacking me knew why they were doing so and I was actually sent aid from 2 USN nations [i]while fighting[/i] the two other USN nations.

[quote name='ace072199' timestamp='1299278493' post='2652772'] you mean, when they are fighting UPN who is already outnumbered and outgunned and you choose weak targets, then I guess you are right. [/quote] We've been fighting them for far longer than this current conflict, in fact, we were fighting several alliances at the same time at first since UPN asked their allies for help. Also, we are 2 nations now but we did have higher numbers previously, we can get more members later as well. ps. Hi ace

The band keeps marching on... It's been fun and it's going to continue being fun for the months ahead. Also, we're all busy people Haflinger.

I know you have to have this "we don't care what you all think" attitude and all....but this in your face announcement is not helping your cause. I've watched these events unfold with disappointment, you're better than this.

I was an abrasive !@#$%^& at every chance I had

[quote name='Glen MoP' timestamp='1294515815' post='2568728'] It would be nice to see CB be the bigger man and say, "Well, we reduced him to ZT and ZI. Good enough." and then move on. [/quote] ZI is easy to obtain and can be quickly achieved if he sells his infra, it can't be used as a measure of victory/defeat, especially since it costs so little to get back up to 1000+ infra

You only have two options. -accept the terms as they were presented -dig in and fight on until more favorable terms are negotiated Don't come and !@#$%* on here and expect sympathy for an aggressive war you started.

[quote name='Vladisvok Destino' timestamp='1294173385' post='2563349'] The fact that you choose to ignore the proof does not mean there is a lack of proof. Would you please show me where UPN has attacked Pegasus nations? The only declarations I see by UPN are on nations flying the 'bring it' AA. [/quote] He's probably referring to the flurry of tech raids being launched against Pegasus

Cheers

Wow, just wow. This is awesome. Like theDestro said, it's all part of the plan...

[quote name='King John Philos Vi' timestamp='1293907592' post='2560199'] Like he has in the past? Perhaps if you would or COULD stop brown-nosing him maybe you'd see how much of a irresponsible and manipulative leader he is. He only cares about one thing. Getting his way. [/quote] heh, the third age of UPN will surely resemble the last two

[quote name='Necromancer V4L' timestamp='1293506372' post='2555810'] Woah man, Walford's NONE Army might have something to say about that slight against them. [/quote] One of the few times where I really had faith in bob, non-aligned should do that again.

[quote name='WarriorConcept' timestamp='1293504259' post='2555763'] It will be handled just as any raid would be. They would be asked to send reps and if not then we would proceed accordingly. [/quote] I can respect that, but I would expect these kinds of raids to happen, when I used to raid (long ago), I didn't check the OWF before picking a target, I just went and did it. I also wouldn't send back any more than I did damage, unless I felt like picking a fight of course... [quote] How about people who want to tech raid; are they not allowed to play their own way? You have to understand that it is very difficult for people who raid to find a way to fight any other way. The game is effectively at a stalemate until someone pulls their finger out.[/quote] It's only hard if you're an infra hugger, go out and do something, pick a cause and go out and defend it. Be the one who pulls his finger out. In essence, that is what WC is doing with his alliance.

[quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1293433758' post='2555110'] Did you really forget last year so quickly? That was way worse. [/quote] WWE... last christmas/new year was absolutely brutal

What if someone raids them without seeing this thread? Not everyone checks the OWF on a regular basis and this thread isn't even labeled properly for them to search. Nations also would assume that a one man alliance is not protected. Will the raider be jumped on, or just made to pay reps? Are we coming to the point where we'll have to comb trough the forums just to do a raid? Sounds like too much bureaucratic bs

[quote name='Barnaby von Farter' timestamp='1293342846' post='2554145'] Valiently jumping into an assured pummeling and losing a sizable percentage of nation strength is hardly lip service. And speaking as an opponent of FEAR and Europa nations, it was quite a bit more than a show. Get your USN/UPN wars sorted out and jump right in. I hear that NEW's mercenary district is booming. [/quote] We're talking what? 4 days.....[i]four days[/i], one of which was non-nuclear. Look at the NS difference of the alliances by the time they get out of anarchy, this war will barely register on their growth.

[quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1293341906' post='2554122'] Why you mad, though? [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/smug.gif[/img] [/quote] It hurts to see our world being so superficial and shallow. We all have to live on the same planet after all.

[quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1293341366' post='2554113'] NEW asked FEAR to get out. NEW is in this for the long haul, and knew that her allies weren't built to last. Yeah, we sorta suck. [/quote] Wars are hard and long, even if you're going in knowing you will probably lose, you go in to [i]fight[/i], not to pay lip service to your treaty. Absolutely brutal, you should of sat on the sidelines like PC and iFOK instead of putting on this show for us.

Wow, did that even last a cycle? Allies jump in to help their allies, yet leave a few days later when their friends are still fighting. What the hell is the point of even joining the fight in the first place if you're only going to participate for a few days and have no impact on the outcome for NEW and WFF?

a truce has to be made from fighter to fighter in this instance. I've had several occasions where I've gotten a 2 or 3 days truce with someone else I've been fighting, sometimes it's just the nice thing to do

This trend is all too common in CN, good on GOONS to bring it out in the open, maybe others will think twice before acting in such a way

good to see