Haraldson
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[quote name='sigelopisan' timestamp='1356221921' post='3067121'] I dont understand how the "practically even" result is acceptable by your alliance. You should have crushed us more. I mean, If I were you, Kaskus should have perished. You guys have a bigger warchest. You guys have more nations (even until now still not in anarchy). You guys have all the advantages to win this war within 7 days. We all now, the first 7 days of war is the most important part. And about Death Drain, please pay a bit respect to him. He was one of you guys for a long time and he is always nice to me [/quote] Why, since you mention advantages and crushing: !@#$ bore you wtih a link to Alliance Statistics Pages: Total of Kaskus: 40 -/- anarchised 27 =============== Remainder 13 -/- peace mode 7 =============== Total fit members 6. But I concede that we can do better. Working on it.
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[quote name='Javapirate' timestamp='1356198202' post='3067010'] i know you think yo're safe [/quote][quote name='Javapirate' timestamp='1356198202' post='3067010'] i know you think yo're safe [/quote] If it means so much to you we could meet in a Game that started in 2004 and has about 1.7 million members by now and I have this 1337 ID number, mkay? Of course, I would defeat you at once if you joined and we met. Yes - so what would that mean? Nothing,nada, niente, bupkas. If I tried to brag about glorious victory in one fell swoop over a newbie whose stats I outmuscled by a factor of 40 Million or so, I'd become a public joke - and rightly so. No doubt you and I shall meet at some point, somewhere, some game or other. So what? You still know when you are punching below or above your level. The level itself is quite immaterial.
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[quote name='Javapirate' timestamp='1356195839' post='3067001'] Haraldson, your mouth is bigger than your NS I cant help my self to check up on your nation, you have a big mouth for 7k NS nation [/quote] Do you plan to come down to NS 9310? Seems to be a big big fall from where you are. But if you do, we can go mano a mano. Suryanto Tan said [quote][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Believe me, I was merely trying to help you from making the same mistake others made in the past when fighting us. But I guess, you will be alright, seeing that you seem to not completely blank.[/quote][/font][/color] It's true that what a Nation can do is limited by its size. Can't touch what is beyond your reach. Combats are pretty much like-for-like. I am viewing this War as a learning opportunity, and intend to profit from the experience. Merry Christmas!
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[quote name='suryanto tan' timestamp='1356191881' post='3066982'] I honestly think it is too early for NSO to start the celebration. Perhaps you guys newer to the game should consult your experienced player to learn more. The reality may not be as beauty as your fantasy. But if that keeps you happy, do not let the truth stand in the way. It will hurt your feeling really bad when you have such high expectancy for your own potential, only to find out that you actually is impotent (unable to perform adequately). I wish you all the luck in the world. [/quote] Sir, I celebrate every victory in the battlefield. Every Nation that I declared upon was older than mine, and higher rated than yours truly in terms of strength, but I am consistently outscoring my opponents. Granted, I don't win every battle. The score-card tells the story. One of yours mounts a gallant but futile resistance and counter-attacks, one goes turtle,and the other one anarchised while I was still, to the best of my knowledge, the only one to declare WAR upon him or her. Does that define 'adequate performance' in Kaskus? I do not know what you consider adequate performance, but other than sending nukes, I don't see much in the way of competent execution of attacks from Kaskus in my neck of the woods. With the exception of the one opponent that you can surely identify and commend for gallantry ( she FIGHTS! ) , tis a pretty lacklustre showing. But do not presume to hold others to the dismally incompetent standards that are prevailing amongst my Kaskus counterparts. As for my team-mates in the 15K-5K strength section of NSO. I am proud that we pull together, learn to report competently, respond to opportunities,and actively help each other out against sticky wickets. [b]The failings of my Kaskus counterparts are in the final analysis not their own failings - for how could they know better? - but the failings of those who were responsible for teaching them. [/b] Yes,sir, I am talking about you, and Hiro, and Smurf - [i]the people who should have trained them to perform better.[/i]
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[quote name='Sir Humphrey' timestamp='1356185998' post='3066970'] All the more incentive for them to save on infra upkeep costs [/quote] But I >LIKE< Kaskus warchests. I even sent one of my 3 opponents an official Thank You note for her generosity. I promised her that I would use the money wisely. 4 Million in one single day, it's me darling fortune if your poor little nation ( like mine ) has a mere 1940 Infra. Enough to keep me in tanks and planes for a goodly bit. The 'turtle' contributed 1.2 Meg, but the anarchised feller lacked that Christmas Spirit I regret to say. War! It's fantastic! [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWCtfUgBtNw&gl=GB&hl=en-GB"]http://www.youtube.c...&gl=GB&hl=en-GB[/url]
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[quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1356059517' post='3066510'] Kaskus has 38 nations total.... NSO has 31 nations just in the 30-60K range.... the math does not lie... an alliance with 4x the nations of another alliance... and nearly the same average nation strength... will always have adequate coverage over the smaller alliance. In every range. Its one of the few instances (1v1 alliances wars) where you can pretty much read both sides with just looking at ANS. [/quote] You are right. I was perhaps trying too hard to contrive a Best Case scenario in which Kaskus still makes a decent showing. Time has progressed, and the battlefield has moved on. [url="http://www.cybernations.net/stats_alliance_stats_custom.asp?Alliance=Kaskus"]http://www.cybernati...Alliance=Kaskus[/url] The score-card tells the story. Kaskus leadership needs to accept reality and ask for terms. That is of course just my personal opinion as a peanut-gallery Corps Commander and does not necessarily reflect Government Opinion.
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[quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1356042996' post='3066411'] Posts like this make me wonder if people have no concept of numbers, or they just intentionally ignore them. NSO had 4x the nations Kaskus has.. and their ANS is within 2000 of one another (suggesting that they can adequately cover alltiers in Kaskus.) The only thing that could possibly fail for NSO in this instance, is a complete and utter lack of activity and an unwillingness of people to actually launch their wars. Other than that, any suggestion that Kaskus may in any way, shape or form, have an upper hand over NSO is patently ridiculous. [/quote] Have you considered the distribution of NS strength within Alliances? Kaskus is quite heavy in the 30K-60K range but very thin everywhere else. Technically, this allows for a situation in which Kaskus does well in that bandwidth ( accounting for 2/3rd of their Membership) while the hapless third that is somewhere else gets a very painful... treatment. You might then even see 2 Alliances proclaiming to have won. The centers of gravity do not match. Their Best Players and our Best Players cannot exchange blows. Just my 2 bits as one of the Corps Commanders in the lower tiers of NationStrength.
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[quote name='Hiro Nakara' timestamp='1356045873' post='3066448'] Yes clearly. What will happen is you'll get your fill of UnknownSmurf, despite what it costs you in NS, land, tech and all the good stuff. Once that is out the way and for a prolonged period of us not surrendering, white peace will be declared due to peoples realize how retarded it was to fight in the first place and waste so much over 1 person. Yea Egg on my face. Egg on your face for loosing so much over 1 person. I've kept it quite cordial to my opponents so far, I plan to try and keep it that way. I like a fight and it's the best part of this[ooc] game[ooc]. I'm less tolerant of rubber nutted peanut gallery types that make terrible comments. So forgive me if I come across as a bit short. Goodnight. [/quote] Oh, I finally dig why you are sending these scrubs into defeat. So it's your own peanut gallery you are sending to their doom? Just like Isaac, wut?
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[quote name='suryanto tan' timestamp='1355924893' post='3065796'] On behalf of Kaskus, I would like to thank the New Sith Order for holding back for so long and show more courtesy than we actually deserved. I cannot say that we would have shown the same level of leniency if the situation was reversed. I am glad to admit that in the back channel discussion, we do not give you any choice but to carry on with the decision to attack Smurf. As much as we hate to find ourselves in conflict with you, we realize that it is inevitable, and may be the only logical solution to this situation. We understand that you are doing what you have to do, hell, what you should have done since two weeks ago, that you hold off out of courtesy for us. For that we appreciate it and will not go unnoticed. I think you earn the respect of Bob for doing that, and that alone. You do what you have to do. We do what we have to do. May we find peace in the art of the battle. [/quote] Dangit Tan. I can no longer troll you without feeling like a jerk.
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[quote name='Rokula' timestamp='1355962684' post='3066094'] I app'ed to NSO a long time ago, I was denied because NSO has a policy of not letting reptilians or other foul beasts(sic) in. It was a injustice , and still hurts me to this day. So on behalf of all of us persons who just happen to be hatched from eggs I demand an change in your policies regarding membership of us scaled ones. Thanks. [/quote] Such vile[i] lies.[/i] You were listed as a run-away Rogue by[b] Dinosaur[/b] and [b]Avian[/b]. You were described as a thoroughly bad egg - and I can see how accurate those descriptions were. We Siths do not shelter fugitives form Justissssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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[quote name='lolatyou' timestamp='1355939315' post='3065892'] let fun be had by both sides [/quote] No worries there. I think we both got awfully BORED yelling at people to go into DefCon 1 and stuff, and having to WaitForIt! while sluggards finally came online. Now, with finally enough peeps on both sides mobilised, it is time to paaaaaaartay!
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[quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1355938586' post='3065885'] Just a Kaskus member, I love Kaskus too much to fight them but I didn't start this one. I left Kaskus for more personal reasons, had no idea this war was happening the next day. [/quote] Personal reason being your alliance-'brothers' being such very decent and civil people, attacked their Alliance Member ie you in person and forced you into anarchy? I can buy that as a personal reason.
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[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1355936025' post='3065859'] So wait, you are part of the reason there is an issue between Kaskus and NSO and yet you run to Kingdom of Hyrule instead of fighting alongside Kaskus? WTF... [/quote] Secret Alliance treaty of some kind?
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[quote name='suryanto tan' timestamp='1355932010' post='3065833'] Sorry, Rayvon. Your last message sums it very clearly that we both saw no future in the deadlock discussion. It is just bound to happen. Have fun to you, too. [/quote] As noticed in earlier thread, either you or Smurf was a liar. Now we know YOU are the LIAR. No honour, no decency, [b]no face[/b].
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[quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1355705733' post='3064773'] Ah but what you don't seem to understand Ray is that every Kaskus member sees these conversations you are having. We are all at the same level. Razor was saying if you don't like me go to someone else which is so obvious its hilarious. Also ray you are not banned. That was to avoid autojoin. [/quote] http://www.cybernations.net/search_wars.asp?searchstring=Declaring_Alliance%2CReceiving_Alliance&search=Kaskus&anyallexact=exact [b][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="1"][color=#505050]12/16/2012 8:15:41 PM[/color][/size][/font][color=#505050][font=Verdana, arial, san-serif][size=2] [/size][/font][/color] [color=#505050][font=Verdana, arial, san-serif][size=2]"because you cant shut up"[/size][/font][/color][/b]
