King Tarquin

I am so confused by this thread

double post...sry

All this micro stuff has been funny as hell because it can get alittle boring around here. But now it's just starting to get annoying...

[quote name='Hiro Nakara' timestamp='1346152628' post='3025960'] You do know how the current donations rules were put into place yes? If you do not then I'll educate you seeing as you may not have been around then, admin got duped out of $18k worth of donations by a member that had multiple nations sending out CN money, that people were paying this guy via pay-pal or some other sorts of on-line money transferring. Yes that's $18,000. So don't sit there and say he didn't implement the changes because he isn't interested in making money, he made the changes to limit losing that kind of money again. The guy that duped him was on here bragging about it last year or the year before and the post was removed by admin in the quickest fashion (I read it and by the time I refreshed it was gone), obviously he's still pissed off about it. So yea, please don't sit there and say it's not a money making venture. The guys post was very long and very descriptive to how he done it and how much he made per month, he was making around 1000-1500 a month by conning Admin. He was extremely descriptive and logged every detail, such as dates times and I even think the nations he used to send the CN money out from, he had around 10+ multi's doing it. He even bragged that Kevin (Admin) paid for his university education. So you can see admin got pissed and the rules were changed. Also sorry for the late reply, doctors visits and military bumf is keeping me busy. [/quote] I think you're missing the point here, no offence but I don't see how it proves your point. If I had the donations available I would have been angry if somebody stole 18,000 from me whether it was a money making venture or not. And that fact that he took steps to stop it doesn’t prove that profit is his #1 goal. I mean if a not for profit organization got 18,000 stolen from them you can bet they would be pissed and you could bet they would react. I might be being naive but I don't think he ever expected to get this kinda money outta the game. And that’s another thing we are basing our "Decline" ideas off of what used to be here. If they most nations that were ever on CN only made it to 2,000 and that declined to 1000 I would bet you would see a lot of doom and gloom threads as well. I respect your point and you clearly are putting a lot into it. And are CN's best days behind her….. perhaps but I think she has a lot of days in front of her to.

[quote name='the rebel' timestamp='1346019144' post='3025475'] We already down to a quarter of the total player base Ive known so already lost three quarters of "potential income". This place would of shutdown years ago if it was operated as a business and sole income, the fact that its still here is anyone's guess since we aren't admin. [/quote] ^this Agreed clearly the admin isn’t doing this just for the money. So Voodoo your comment "money rules the world" seems out of place to me here. First off I just disagree with it in principle. But second I would remind all of you that when admin started cybernations it had zero advertising and had only a few hundred players. That doesn’t exactly tell me that the admin did this purely for the money. I’m not sure that this was a bottom line business deal.

[quote name='Hiro Nakara' timestamp='1345974046' post='3025341'] profit loss v effort. Because that's happened so far hasn't it. The trend has been in decline for years. And again this wont stop the plug being pulled so to speak. [/quote] The fact is though you have no idea what it costs to run this game and no idea how much the admin takes in. So saying that he will pull the plug anytime to is just guesswork

[quote name='Hiro Nakara' timestamp='1345932988' post='3025253'] Yes the politics will carry on, [i]obviously [/i] while the game runs. Until Admin pulls the plug because effort v return is not what he would like. The politics has been the same since the game began and will be the same until the game gets taken down. Treaty whore, gather friends, isolate enemies, attack under !@#$ CB or no CB, rinse wash repeat many times over. There is nothing revolutionary about that. I still don't see that being the saviour of the game. It hasn't been successful so far. The numbers keep dropping and will continue to do so. [/quote] I've been reading all of your posts on this thread and i don't no why your being so negative. I know this games "Hey day"(I was there for that btw) is past. But that dosent mean there couldn't be a massive influx of new players from some unseen place or event, mabye something will shake this place up. and if not I think it will still be here for awhile.

[quote name='Alexandros o Megas' timestamp='1345549457' post='3024022'] One more guy a little more my size has also just left Hellas 2 days before the war saying he will be busy this week!! [/quote] clearly he ran in fear of DB4D

Congrads DB4D

It’s in the extended display under technology and it's probably around 20 percent anyway. Literacy rate is one of those stats that doesn’t matter much at all except if you have the resources to give you scholars in which case it needs to be 90%.

man I got down declared so hard. I thought this was going to be a good clean fight....o well, heres to a good time. o/DB4D o/Hellas

o/TPC o/CoS Have fun you guys

Nice to see an alliance putting effort into the small new guys and trying to help grow the game. Good Show

uhh the guy who formed this alliance is now in THE ILLUMINATI so now NDO only has 2 members and neither is the guy who started this topic... Did I miss something?

i didnt see that... i changed mine to, I cant change them agian til the 19th but I figure we should just go for it anyway.