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[quote name='hobbies0310' timestamp='1345848504' post='3025043'] Why does he gotta be black? [/quote] Why you gotta bring race into this, homeslice?

It's not picking on the slow kid, sorry to say. While it's lighthearted here, he sought to actively subvert our alliance. Both of them are former members who peaced out of our AA and left to found their own thing. That's normally fine, but when you start trying to mess with our IA after you left, that's not the same thing nor all that funny. Yeah, it's drama, but we didn't go looking for it. We aid bombed these shmucks during the war and they left the minute it was over. When they try propositioning members of INT to fight one another, that is a bit beyond the pale for us just sitting back and letting it slide. Sorry that my sympathy isn't registering strong.

Yourself, because you decided to play. The change is inevitable.

And yet here we are trolling a message board...

I don't see how a spreadsheet will help much when everyone who is in your range is already kind of attacking you...

I need more alcohol to fully appreciate this thread. I was told there would be punch and pie if I came. Can you ante up?

It's a "sexual experience enhancement device". Just think of the possibilities! I'm sure Dr. Oz will get around to reviewing it. Someday.

[URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/502/pinkyandthebrainphoto.jpg/][IMG]http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4291/pinkyandthebrainphoto.jpg[/IMG][/URL] So....when do we get to take over the world?

Ghouls need lovin' too. All we need is a paper bag and we're set! Edit: And KenMo IS quite the square dancer. Glad I got in to tap that early on...

"Way IRON saw fit" <- Those are the key words right that that scream out at me. I don't deny it can be done, I don't deny that an LSF member did something foolish. Perish the thought. What I object to is the people who cheer this is valid are very much in danger of using some sort of casuistry to imply that "LSF members represent their alliance in all things" but that members of other alliances who are not government (but are "high profile") do not. Blame Optimistic for being foolish, but don't say "LSF did this" when you go right around and say "LSF has no government". There is a bit of a disconnect between the two statements. This is tongue in cheek: [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=111584&view=findpost&p=2987122"]My link[/url] [2012-06-17 19:08:01] <Aggressivenutmeg> This could very well come back and bite us in the arse [2012-06-17 19:08:09] <[REDACTED]> Shhhhhh [2012-06-17 19:08:10] <MCRABT> nah [2012-06-17 19:08:22] <MCRABT> I'll let him no eventually [2012-06-17 19:08:28] <MCRABT> *know Letting the person know afterwards...that's not tongue in cheek? As I said, foolish nub, but forgive me if I recognize one of these is far more politically expedient to jump on right now.

I have yet to meet a person in reality who ever sincerely apologizes when a club is held over their head, but I won't argue that point. Your argument may work for Sabcat, but it doesn't work for Optimistic. *He* never claimed to be government...he was a new member. See, he isn't a prominent member of government and yet IRON directed its ire at LSF to pay reps for his actions. Hal's actions were a deliberate action to instigate a particular FA path on an alliance, and Optimistic did the same. Both were excused away by their respective "governments", but one has to have their collective pay the price. Hell, stupid raiders cause this issue all the time, and yet we somehow avoid going to war over it. By that argument, I would expect Valhalla to have a tighter rein on members posting inflammatory material than I would a group of anarchists. You know, if we are using logic here.

Not that it is all that relevant to people, but a lowly nub has a question: If Optimistic/Sabcat/random LSF member, as a member of LSF, represents all his government by his actions.... Does Chairman Hal, by his callout on the OWF, represent all of Valhalla by his own? If a member of an alliance is considered representative of that alliance, how exactly does this faux moral outrage and war cheerleading work exactly? I don't deny LSF did something that was unwise (indeed foolish), but the pots calling the kettle black is a bit strange.

I'm a saaaa-aaaad panda.