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It's like you dislike a company's CEO, so you set the company HQ on fire.
While the CEO swats at the flame on his tie, Joe & Jane 9-to-5 are suffering third degree burns & are slowly losing consciousness, being suffocated by smoke.
Arson occasioning multiple counts of first degree murder.. There is no God.
Thus is the toll of war. -
Everyone should cut their losses, although I recognize the SRA side is light years stronger. This has gone on for too long and everyone is wasting their time.
Although that's probably not how you guys see it. -
I'd like to thank Walshington for being admirable and, quite frankly, generous in his handling of this affair. Peace has been sent.
I always liked SRA and still do. I think this was a misunderstanding caused by my inability to do proper research. Even 1 hour matters dearly in game. I wish I hadn't sent aid without seeing that SRA and LN were in full conflict. For that I apologize and I vow to be more diligent in the future.
o7 SRA -
vandel, before trying to claim the morale high ground, I would always suggest not throwing away diplomatic attempts to resolve this. I messaged you to keep this entire situation from even occuring, your response was to crumble the message and delete it.
I messaged Ceres who responded back on top of other words, acknowledged that no such ODP even exists to TSO. This combined with the fact that you can not be bothered to respond to a diplomatic warning shows that you will not learn except by force not to aid enemy combatants.
If TSO does choose to negotiate on your behalf, we can always talk to them, but you haven't even tried to do this for yourself other than your two spy attacks
Again, Ceres is not in TSO gov. Probably stop talking to him about alliance affairs he knows nothing about. ElPresidente is their leader and we have an ODP which he announced on the OWF.
I deleted your message and did what you asked. You asked me not to aid your enemies and I have not done that upon your request.
Then you attacked me... Hmmm
I would love to negotiate... You have not brought anything to the table... But I guess I could.
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vandel, before trying to claim the morale high ground, I would always suggest not throwing away diplomatic attempts to resolve this. I messaged you to keep this entire situation from even occuring, your response was to crumble the message and delete it.
I messaged Ceres who responded back on top of other words, acknowledged that no such ODP even exists to TSO. This combined with the fact that you can not be bothered to respond to a diplomatic warning shows that you will not learn except by force not to aid enemy combatants.
If TSO does choose to negotiate on your behalf, we can always talk to them, but you haven't even tried to do this for yourself other than your two spy attacks
Again, Ceres is not in TSO gov. Probably stop talking to him about alliance affairs he knows nothing about. ElPresidente is their leader and we have an ODP which he announced on the OWF.
I deleted your message and did what you asked. You asked me not to aid your enemies and I have not done that upon your request.
Then you attacked me... Hmmm
I would love to negotiate... You have not brought anything to the table... But I guess I could.
Messages follow in game. -
Just because MI is at war with SRA, that doesn't mean LN is also at war with them.
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I was told TSO cleared it afaik.
If that is not true, then not countering definitely might help.
Though I'd really like to know who spy'd me :P
Edit - changed my mind.
Ceres is not TSO gov and cannot clear you to attack anyone on behalf of TSO.
I will hold retaliation until this is figured out.
I spied on you, only to gather intelligence, and have taken no further action, which I could do to great detriment probably for all parties.
I never had beef with SRA or PPO. -
1) Public callout of ally for not honoring treaty.
2) Reiteration that said treaty is entirely optional.
3) ???
4) Profit
I was calling them out for "Ceres said it was okay."
Ceres is not gov... And they are my allies... So why would he tell PPO to attack me? Feels like a stab in the back. -
I didn't attack anyone. The facts are stated in the OP and they remain the facts.in all fairness he didn't attack us. He is aiding the enemy after they themselves kicked his ass last month. We saw this as putting him out of his misery.
That said he is lucky tso (elprez) is willing to negotiate on his behalf. What will come of it, I don't know.
I haven't even countered yet.
I never aided your enemies. I aided LN during their war with III% and they were not at war with anyone else at the time. This war against me is completely unjustified.
Also, we had a white peace with III% and I delivered more damage than they did.
You seem to continue in your confusion.
This seems to be a war of SRA aggression.
Still waiting for a response from TSO. I look forward to them honoring their treaty, but as I previously stated it is an ODP. -
The age of Aquirious? :psyduck:
This is the dawning! -
These are the moments where alliances have their chance to prove their worth.
This is the moment. -
I see your op but didn't you leave tso to treaty with a nation that attacked you personally and aggressively only to run back asking them for a treaty?
I think you need to figure out what side you want to play on.
Nope. Your information is wrong. Ceres refused to treaty with me. I then looked for other options.
Ceres is eating your alliance from the inside out. Who is in charge over there? I look forward to hearing from your gov to see if they will honor their treaty with me. -
This is what happens when the goddamn DARE program doesn't pull its weight.
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o7 Methrage!
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I left TSO because of differences in leadership and direction. After I left TSO I asked them for an ODP, to which Ceres refused because he was undoubtedly butthurt that I left. I formed an ODP with CA (Sigrun) because she was fighting for the little guy and she had honor.
I supported Limitless Nexus and Methrage in their war against III%. I never supported Monsters Inc and you can confirm that with Sigrun, because she asked me to. My quarrel was with III%.
After we rocked III%, ElPresidente (who is nominally in charge of TSO) asked me for an ODP. I agreed because I honor TSO and always wanted an ODP with them.
Then TSO asked me to end my ODP with CA. I did this, because I honor TSO and I have loyalty to them.
DAYS later, SRA goes to war with LN.
About a week later they start sending me messages saying I am a traitor and that I supported the enemy. Again, I despise MI as much as everyone else here does. I sent aid to LN during their crises with III% because I was on their side.
NOW, Pirates of the Parrott Order and SRA have decided to attack me. PPO informed me: Lurunin said, "Ceres gave the okay."
Ceres Soveign may be the owner of TSO but he is not he Premier. The Premier is ElPresidente. I have an ODP with TSO because I am honorable and support them, as I always will.
I call upon TSO to activate our ODP. I realize it is "Optional," but if you do not activate th ODP with me against SRA and PPO, you are worse than MI, III%, and all the other dishonorable alliances combined.
I also request Armor Pierce activate their ODP with me, and that CA consider coming to my aid in the event TSO stabs me in the back.
Et tu, Brute?
TL;DR? SRA and PPO war on GCI; GCI attempts to activate ODPs.
Obligatory Nick Cage input!
-vandelsand
Stranger of GCI
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It's optional defense. It applies whenever we want, hence the option.
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Signed by me! Stranger of the GCI!
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The war is over. The result is a white peace on my front with III%.
Feel free to close the thread! -
You know, if everybody had their own alliance, it would the same as if there were no alliances at all.
/me died from mind blowing information. -
I note you left The Sovereign Order on the 2nd June, any reason for this?
Different visions in direction.
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Honoring our ODP with Confederatio Aesir, the Guild of Calamitous Intent (GCI) formally declares war on the III%.
o7 to all those involved and to their casualities. May this be an enjoyable endeavor.
This can also serve as a DoE if you wish.
Signed: vandelsand, Stranger of GCI
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Elite Virgin committed treason by going against his allegiance to our alliance during a time of war, and espionage. That is why he was sanctioned.
Caparo should not have been sanctioned, and that I apologize for. -
Just to be clear, Im curious what Vandelsand's definition of war crimes meriting sanction was, as he was the one that was posting it as an acceptable use that he will do in the future.
Hartfw,
I am not clear, but I'm sure it will come up! War crimes... Maybe when the intricacies of planet bob become more complicated there could be some aspect that alliances would cry foul against. -
Thanks to everyone for the replies! This was not part of a peace deal, just thought it needed to be said. You are all a great bunch and your replies have
so far
been mostly respectful. May the casualties continue!
Just Another War (Prank Gone Wrong Sexual In The Hood.... Cops Called)
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Different war, different day. I'm here for the casualties and we are all out. Hopefully we will make it to GPA before the sun sets.
Where is xanth when we need someone to complain and b1tch?