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Prodigal Moon

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  1. That would be sort of like Ex Machina, but the exact opposite.
  2. Taking bets on which party is first to completely disavow this relationship and claim they were playing the other side all along.
  3. I love it. Only thing I would add (which I think might've been implied) is that once in one of the sanctioned alliances, there should be no leaving. This would prevent any AA-hopping shenanigans to manipulate the cut-off.
  4. We're all pretty much dead at the moment. You're just tied to a bigger pile of corpses.
  5. You've taken a set of alliances that was already highly interconnected by MDP's, and gave it a name and a grandiose reveal. The details that might make it marginally interesting, like who made the cut as a ~real~ NPO Turbo Hyper Championship Arcade Edition ally, and who's just had their treaty de-facto downgraded by this, have been made intentionally murky in keeping with the played-out theme. So what is there to really say here, except "yep"? If this turns out to be a true departure from the "everyone-grab-each-other-and-avoid-a-challenging-war" foreign policy by your side of the web for the last couple of years, I'll be the first to congratulate you.
  6. Jesus, a secret cabal of the magnitude this is hinting at changes everything! ...I'm being told that everyone is already treatied to everyone else. I respectfully withdraw my hysteria. Please continue with your self-congratulations.
  7. My nation used to have a talk show where guests would be brought on to discuss their personal disputes with each other. They would launch into tirades about who said what to whom and what some 3rd party said they heard from a 4th party and so on and so on. It would usually devolve into cursing, half-assed fighting, and swinging chairs around at each other. Everyone involved ended up looking like a classless idiot with too much time on their hands. That's about what I get out of watching micro drama.
  8. Whatever happened to "an eagle doesn't hunt flies"? (No offense Rey)
  9. The only thing DK/DBDC would have had to do to create an exciting political environment right now would be to not completely merge their sphere of influence with NPO's. And yet here we are.
  10. One small point: there are plenty of "active" alliances that still don't do shit except collect taxes and go to war when their more politically involved allies tell them it's time. Even if everyone from the unresponsive (truly dead) AA's joins these guys, we'll still end up with a system where a handful of alliances drive all the action. So if you're going to leave an alliance that's gone inactive, you might as well join one of the few AA's that aren''t just active but actual drivers of politics.
  11. Excellent. Nothing must be allowed to happen.
  12. Duly noted, I'll make sure all of my GOONS hate gets transferred to Umbrella lumped in with my already abundant Umbrella hate. That's a lot of hate for one alliance!
  13. Must be one of those "protect controversial AA to bait people into attacking them so we have a CB to counter-attack" schemes, except that that's the opposite of what would benefit us right now. So I dunno.
  14. Still more moralistic grandstanding from Polaris :facepalm:
  15. I don't think ODN is evil per se - just way more willing than us to support those that I would classify as evil. That might not sound like much, but it requires some conviction and courage. Who knows what the world would be like if most AA's were closer to NpO than ODN. Personally, I don't think an AA like DBDC/DK would be able to thrive in a world like that. Not aligning yourself with evil just to survive is apparently a much more moral stance than most of the world is capable of, so I'm not sure why you want to just dismiss that. There are two things I think both of you are missing: 1) When I rant about morals, I never come at it from the angle of how Polaris is so great, or the ultimate self-sacrificing saint of an alliance or anything, because of course we're not "the best that is possible." Who is? When I talk about morals, it's because people are actively doing evil or supporting it. That's because 2) we live in a virtual Garden of Plenty here. To bastardize a quote: the one thing necessary to cause nations not to thrive here, is for evil (wo)men to do something. This world doesn't need saving for everyone to prosper, it just needs people not to stomp on those who are weaker than them. I like to think that if we had the power of NPO right now, we'd use it to actively prevent evil. But just by letting others live in peace and not supporting evil, you're naturally setting yourself up to oppose it more so than most AA's.
  16. Being a neutral alone isn't the same as fighting for good, no, but it gives an AA a lot cleaner record than most of us. We can turn this into the philosophy thread and spend the next 10 pages discussing "What is Good?," but I think the simple fact of beating up on peaceful nations just because it benefits you can speak for itself. You're welcome to frame it as "just doing something outside of common practice" as much as you want. Because that's totally genuine and the real problem I have with DBDC/DK isn't the wanton, sociopathic violence: it's the outside-the-box thinking :psyduck: Auctor: Around here, simply not going with the flow and supporting evil is about the best thing anyone ever does. We ally and defend similarly peaceful AA's. We're home to most of those who actually speak out from a principled perspective.And we have an extremely generous system for developing small nations. Maybe we're not saving the world or aid-bombing strangers (who is?) but altogether it's plenty for me to know which end of the spectrum I'm on.
  17. That's a fair point. Every alliance makes compromises in order to win - including which alliances they align themselves with. There are no saints here, and very few AA's that are actively malicious and not just playing the political game. But I really have to disagree that you can't differentiate based on the choices people when they're in power. Steamrolling neutrals, repeatedly raiding (the same) established alliances, and spitting in the face of those who expect a justification/CB beyond "because it benefits us" is about as far into the evil zone of this murky continuum as you'll find. We don't act like that, or directly support AA's like that. That basic level of conscientiousness sets us apart from the rest of the heard. Ideally, we would never even ally with allies of AA's like DBDC/DK, but that's where those compromises are sometimes made, to advance a greater good.
  18. Lucky for you, 95% of alliances out there have no guiding values besides survival and maybe defending the people they like talking to on IRC.So you've managed to thrive in a world that's too apathetic* to recognize evil even when it screams "I'm evil" and waves a little sign around. But as an alliance that even takes values into consideration in its actions, Polaris is light years beyond you and yes, "better" than you in a sense. It would be way less exasperating if you all just embraced the role you've tried so hard to create rather than continually try to muddy the waters around what you are. The ODN's of the world will still love you as long as you're cool guys to hang out with. *OOC: doesn't bother/care about the OOC/IC divide
  19. As the ruler of a peace-loving nation, I strongly applaud this latest effort to make sure no war can ever happen again.* *NpO/MI6 and allies not included Edit: Somebody tell Timmehhh about this treaty! Hahaha (from nation bio):
  20. I'd rather stay irrelevant than ally with the people in the current hegemony :( Bring on the rolls!
  21. Took the words right out of my mouth. It's hard to remember times in the past 5 years when alliances might have actually been constrained or thwarted by prevailing moral standards, and you could probably argue that even then it was less about community standards, and much more about politics. Now you could count on one hand the number of AA's that place significant weight on anything close to "morals" in determining their allies and FP - this, despite the large number of individuals who delude themselves into thinking they're "just a bunch of laid-back nice guys," who just happen to always be on the side of sociopaths, despots, and vultures.
  22. I wonder what it's like for NPO seeing their allies flying the Red Raiding Safari banner.
  23. There's just no pleasing some people, Junka. Sorry to see how much negative momentum SNX has going, but take heart in knowing that we're already all immortal here, and plenty of nations/groupings have recovered from worse. The disintegration of a community is the only thing that can't be restored.
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