Prodigal Moon
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Tell me more about how you're embracing the lulz these days, it's a really exciting new direction.R&R completely abandoned their principles with this treaty. This is an absolute outrage, Non Grata is one of the absolute worst alliances on this planet I can't believethisohmyactualgodiamjustsomad.
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edit: double post
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Thanks, Dajobo. I have immense respect for you as well, so I'll try to give you all the benefit of the doubt. I'll really miss being a part of the Polar community.Prodigal Moon once you changed AA you couldn't see your resignation thread but it is filled with good wishes from your comrades in Polaris. You left because you're a man of principles and we respect that, please respect that we've not lost our own principles as well.
NGW: reconciliation can be admirable, but I'm not opposed to this treaty just due to an NpO-related grudge.
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Just signed Polaris up to defend NG.
Some consider it in bad taste to leave your alliance and immediately have something bad to say about them.
Is concerned about bad taste.
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When people sign treaties like this one - with one side they hate only marginally less than the other - it really calls into question who/what is competing against whom/what.
I haven't had my morning tea so this may be a bit more incoherent than I want it to be...
But your outdated version of "competition" hasn't existed since almost the first year of this world. This treaty is part of the competition, as is every treaty. What's killing this world is the inability for inactive alliances, like TPF, to recognize that they need to either disband or merge because their failings are two-fold: You aren't contributing to the political game and you're allowing other political players to use you as a convenient target in order to delay real political moves.
This world is thriving in competition - You simply have to join the ranks of those still competing rather than sitting still in your den of barely-alive nations.
And it's not some "elitist" alliance thought either. Doom Kingdom, Kashmir, Monster's Inc... All new alliances that are having a fine time with their own visions for the game. It just requires activity and the desire to actually play, rather than whine that no one else is playing by your expectations.
It would be just as interesting (and about as arbitrary) if you all just drew random numbers and then lined up to have an even fight. You've already abandoned any pretense of principle, so what difference does it make who ends up on your side, and who on the other? After all, you're relevant! -
Leaving Polaris as soon as I log in from a computer.
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During Disorder there were times when I launched attacks on my phone while driving, in order to coordinate. This was in a hands free state, as if you need another reason why it isn't worth the risk to do complicated CN browsing while operating a motor vehicle.
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But you know, if you really believe that Oculus is so easily cowed and is not just being nice and diplomatic, you can always exploit that, claim the mantle of the world's top superpower, and throw your weight around to satisfy whatever motives it is you have. Because somehow, I have a feeling that it's not really Monsters Inc that you are feeling raw about.
I think you might be onto something here. It's almost like people don't really care whether MInc got beat up or not.
What if...and I'm reaching here... they're pointing out that it looks silly to gleefully throw your weight around against MI6 and TPF, but suddenly turn into forgiving good guys ones BONES threatens you.
Again, I'm just spitballing here, maybe they're actually huge MInc fans.
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I liked the part where Letum and Farrin played dumb with a sort of funny word-twisting argument but everyone else just kept laughing at NPO backing down from BONES.
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BONES has been doing this countdown to self-destruction thing for about a month now. I'm not sure what it's all about but it is pretty entertaining to watch, especially since it's not pointed in my direction. I just hope he doesn't talk himself out of being able to act on it.
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I'm excited for the opportunity this presents for more really clever comments about voting Grub for Senate.
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Just because I didn't publically argue e-law semantics with my own coalition doesnt mean I thought I CoJ had disappeared as a distinct entity. I've never had a problem with the policy, it's just that the wording people use for it is silly and overly literal at at times.You're in Polar, who was in the EQ coalition -- and I'm fairly sure CoJ was as well.
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In general, though? Unprovoked attacks go against the values that the Global Alliance has held since its founding.
You're allied to NG. Regardless of your stated "values," your actions directly provide support for unprovoked attacks by giving cover to those who do so.
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It sounds like Oculus thinks it's just one big AA. Otherwise I fail to see how declaring war on one oculus member is literally the same as attacking all. Functionally the same? Treated the same? Sure. But that outcome still relies on e-paper to make it happen.
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Well done, STA. You guys are still the classiest alliance out there.
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I think you're missing the point. No one is saying that NPO has "no right" to attack an alliance they don't hold a treaty with. What does rub people the wrong way is that this was not necessary and since you DO have a long history with TPF, it is surprising that you would have signed off on this. There is nothing strategic about this and appears to be done "because you can" or "for the lulz" which is something that other alliances in Oculus are expected to do (which is why they received zero flack), but not you guys. You guys are supposedly above such behavior ... or at least used to be.
Summed it up really nicely. Over a long enough time frame, pretty much all allies will eventually diverge in their FA paths and risk ending up on opposite sides of a war. Treaty chains might even lead to them fighting even if they'd strongly prefer not too. It's a bit different to declare a war against a non-threat and then pre-empt their even less threatening ally that you recently dropped. Maybe I was wrong and Oculus really is going to turn on C&G before DBDC.
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Great example of the time-honored strategy: attack an irrelevant, isolated target to prevent your hegemony from turning on itself. Unfortunately, nothing lasts forever.
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Sengoku reminds me more of a poor man's MK every week. I also suspect some of them will high five each other over that analogy even though it's meant as an insult.
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MK dominated the world so completely they got bored and disbanded, but no one wants a treaty with MI6 because they're too smug and abrasive.
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ITT Polar gets roped into the losing side again.
Hahaha what? We're the losing side by definition right now - not sure how we could be roped into it by any treaty let alone a PIAT by our protectorate :psyduck:
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The last sentence of this section should be called "CubaQuerida clause"... Basically all signatories of this document are stating here that they may attack other alliances despite of non-aggresion provisions. They may even attack their allies. If we were allied to any of this bloc members, we would cancel on them immediately. Fortunately, SPATR doesn't have that problem.
Oculus: "The following neighborhood residents will NOT be killed by me. NPO. IRON, Umbrella. VE. DT. NG. Sudoku. AB. GLOF. Oculus-affiliaited alliances that are allied to NPO..... That is all."
DK excitedly bursts in to DBDC's room, DBDC looks hopeless
"Woo hoo, did you hear big brother? Eh ....oh."
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What if you're the only person actually playing CN, and all of this has just been a very elaborate Turing test?
That would be sort of like Ex Machina, but the exact opposite.
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Taking bets on which party is first to completely disavow this relationship and claim they were playing the other side all along.
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I love it. Only thing I would add (which I think might've been implied) is that once in one of the sanctioned alliances, there should be no leaving. This would prevent any AA-hopping shenanigans to manipulate the cut-off.
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