Garion
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A combination of downdeclares (which is usual) plus some targets being left without support for several days, probably.
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If you believe an alliance in a MDAP bloc needs our authorization in order to defend one of its blocmates then you've reached new levels of stupidity, which is a feat in itself given the already low level of your discourse. The simple fact that GLoF was even willing to consider not going all-out on RIA is proof of their goodwill to their coalition partners (R&R): they owe us nothing, you know? You hit an alliance that has very few nations in the tiers where you're strong, and AZTEC put on them the only alliance who could fit. The concept of R&R encouraging an attack on one of its allies is beyond stupidity. Also, lol @ the whole "I was not in RIA so I could do all I wanted": you went rogue on our lower tier with a full-wonder nation, but then the whole "allied for years" thing didn't matter because it didn't suit your desires, clearly. No !@#$! Polar doesn't have the manpower to counter everyone, just saying. You can paint them as knights is shining armor all you want, but maybe, just maybe, other considerations came in apart for "oh, they're allied to RIA, we totally can't hit them". EDIT: additionally, I'm sure SNX will be glad to know NSO is not being countered and can trod on them as they please "because RIA said so". Go home Mogar, you're drunk.
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Mogar, you have every reason to be disappointed or pissed at R&R for attacking Polar or IRON for attacking Sparta as during this war... But to go from there to believing we should shape our direction according to who you're tied to is a bit of a stretch: otherwise we should assume you should do the same.
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Ehy, it's the argument you guys offered us. Don't be too hard on me for recycling it.
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Except for the fact that during last war your coalition had a sizeable upper tier advantage for the first time since XX's inception, probably. Squandered the opportunity to use it, maybe? Or were you denied it? Yet Sparta sat by watching by the sidelines when Mushqaeda happened and DBDC was still somewhat vulnerable/not as well tied or as strong as today. Another wasted opportunity, not just for you obviously: but you were too busy planning the war that led to this current situation. Short-term goals instead of long-term investments. My point is, don't blame others for your mistakes.
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All I get from this thread is a big "LOOK AT ME" from a specific poster.
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RIA doing what RIA does best: being scandalously loyal allies. Best of luck in the war, even from the other side: I believe you'll find AB to be a worthy enemy.
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The Grudge War with R&R. We fought against Asgaard and LoSS, in one of the few fronts of that war that did not see SF-XX completely wrecked, thanks to our FOK tie. I started at 2999 infra against an Asgaard seller who had 3 or 4 times my warchest and kept rebuilding the lost infra daily, altho he was not a great fighter. During the first week of war we got countered by the Shadow Accord, a small black AA allied to Asgaard, and I was reduced to smitherens by Conred (he had nukes and some wonders, I had neither). After that I fought LoSS' small techsellers for the whole duration of the war without making a big deal about it (unlike someone else here :P ) and made a living with the aid GATO sent them :P
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Props to Invicta for their good showing so far.
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No, they won't get a cold shower. You know why? Because even with all the grandstanding you're spouting to raise your morale you're perfectly aware that such road will lead to repeated rollings of your alliance and its allies. And Polaris is smarter than that. You would do best by stopping towing this line: it hurts you more than it helps you. I could go looking and find you yourself stating you wished for NpO-NPO to happen (on the OWF nonetheless), and for the war to last a long time (Disorder became the longest war in CN history). But yes: you definitely got what you wanted. OMG, Polar chasing people away from Bob!!!11! Sorry, had to :P Counterpoint: Polaris enabled and supported terms for a behavior its own allies had practiced extensively two wars before in a much grander fashion. XX and SF peaced out everything over 72k NS for the whole duration of the Dave War. I bet that doesn't suit your narrative here, tho.
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This war is not fought "for the lulz" either.
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o/ our one-way allies
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/thread Pack your stuff boys, we can go home.
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The fact that you did nothing is basically allowing your rolling without big hindrances. As someone who has no beef with SNX, nor is particularly close to SNX, I would say your leadership did an hell of a job to facilitate this particular scenario: putting all your eggs in Polar's basket while "forgetting" to inform some of your constituent alliances' allies of the merger itself (instead of working towards keeping some of those ties) was definitely a poor move. One of the simplest ways to make it hard to roll you is to spread out, while isolation is a death warrant. Add to that the fact that Aftermath looks like a Polar branch (4 ties to them), and well... Like it or not, you ARE burning for Polar's decisions during last year. They might have been the right ones to make, might have been the proper ones to make, might even have been the moral ones to make at the time: they still caused this. Or are we still pretending the coalition opposed to Polar is not the result of last war's outcome?
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What was the downside? :claps:
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My bad, should have called it a colliding route. The different coalition was definitely our choice. -
When the whole of XX gets engaged, there will be plenty of tough fighting in the midtiers as well. It's too early to make similar considerations.
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War is never a clean business. No one is pretending we were dragged into this: it's a choice we made. Let's not quickly forget how the path to that choice was paved, though.
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Roll Wasso.
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Best of luck to Sengoku :) Like declaring on techsellers with a full-wonder nation? :P
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Best of luck to our Orange brethren :)
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Except our history shows we don't shape our actions that way, but nice try. Or getting our asses handed to us during last war was some kind of elaborate ploy? Seems strange to me as well, Jalap. I would never have expected us to willingly engage an XX alliance: it's a statement about how much things have changed between us. I'm not sure what treaty we would not be honoring here. Unless you claim R&R should shape its FA around its allies on "your side" only, despite its own wishes and despite no one of them being engaged or countered at the moment. We are loyal to the people who have shown us loyalty themselves for a long time: Fark and CRAP have not been discarded and forgotten. It is our right to have a different set of priorities in terms of FA and to have a different direction, though, and all of them are aware of why this is happening (as you are). They made their choices, we made ours, and for the first time in a long time we find ourselves on different sides: last war doesn't really count to me in that regard, since it was someone else's willful (and definitely stupid) decision to put us on different coalitions. We will definitely have an interesting time ahead, I for one expect a tough fight from Polaris. Enjoy the war. EDIT: small fix.
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Sooner or later people will learn to move to safer colors.
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Sitzkrieg as well, but I'm sure someone has suggested it already.
