NoMercy

The world keeps turning. There will come a point in time, Pacifica/friends will be well respected all over and kick our asses, and while we'll hate it/them, they won't let us off the hook. But this isn't the time. This is the time to collect some hate in order to keep this planet turning. It's not that we haven't seen that before. Rinse and Repeat.

You can't afford the arrogance. Seriously. Stop pretending you are anywhere near honorable.

STA tears are delicious. You got your quick peace, you got your "emotional moments", what's the point?

While I appreciate your work, I doubt you'll get a nobel price, because this is everything but surprising^^

TIO joined, the war is lost, Bob is over. Honestly, You make it sound like anyone in TOP is mad about this DoW. The opposite is the case. How long will DDL last? Will he be able to unify his members? After his government left as a whole only a few weeks back? Can TIO stand the fire? It can if DDL is competent. Is he?

Don't make it look like you don't have the man power to hit TOP. Why didn't RnR join the war, yet?

tl;dr It turns out RnR is a joke. If I were Us, I'd disband right now.

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/116019-this-week-in-gato/ Funny.

We soooo need to oA declare on kerschbs. :wub:

Not all of CN this time? You are improving.

Are creating them with an engine, or is this paint work? It would be impressive both ways, though

No, not at all. Doesn't sound like it, pal. Drinking a cup of tea helps.

No, I don't. IRON has shown in the past that they honored their treaties. They (according to you) were known for being a solid partner. For me, they'd still be one. I can't deny they didn't honor their treaty with NG, but they had a good reason for it (See iamthey). They chose friendship over paper, I can't blame them for that. In fact their decision was independent. They didn't follow the upcoming public pressure, but chose their friends instead. The only thing we can blame them for, is not canceling the treaty earlier. Then again, considering the communication between both parties, it could have been expected. That lightens the "guilt". I am sure people can understand this. That would have made the situation legally "acceptable". However it's not that when people cancel treaties prior a war, they don't know what the future coalitions will look like. So in both scenarios they'd have caused bad blood.

You don't. As I said before, just because you repeat yourself again and again, you don't have a point. IRON had good reasons for staying out, and they have proven in the past that they usually honor treaties. Their only mistake was to cancel this one. Personally, I have talked to many people that don't give a damn. Now stop pretending you know what the world thinks.

Which speaks for the claim of IRON that there hasn't been any communication between the two parties. Is it IRON's responsibility to knock on NG's door and offer assistance? Most MDP's are worded and understood the other way round. If you need assistance, you ask your allies for help. So it's NG's problem if they didn't knew IRON's position on the matter. If the plotting against the New Polar Order is considered an aggressive act, (that it was a defensive action can't be taken for granted), then it's IRON's right to choose whether to activate the optional Agression clause, or whether not to.

I highly doubt that. You are loud, that doesn't mean you are the majority. IRON has a history of being honest and defending friends that can't be vanished by one event. People understand that defending NG, an alliance they had no contact with whatsoever, is not the best option. You can't rely on loyalty when there is no communication, so the only thing you can rely on is a piece of e-paper. They can only be blamed for not cancelling the treaty beforehand, viciously pretending they didn't know what's coming.

You take it for granted that there is something left of you, when we are done. I find that funny.

Letum, you quoted me wrong there. I didn't say that. Then again, CB discussion is CB discussion, you can see it both ways. If NSO were coming Polar, it would have been a defensive strike. It can be seen both ways.

I understand your point of view, but legally everyone could just say that in the future. It would cause chaos if that was acceptable. I kind of figured IRON telling them in advance they didn't want to take part in the war to fuck over Polar was good enough. I mean at that time IRON most likely even expected NG to pull off a victory since they were planning it so far ahead and they found it morally wrong to just kick someone because you can. Although morals do not define a treaty being existent or not. Non Grata acted aggressively and they aggressively started this war, and it wasn't how they intended. It is clear that the treaty is a optional aggression pact. I'd argue that this game planet works this way since its conception big bang. That's how Coalitions are built and Hegemonies destroyed. With the sole difference that people claim canceling treaties beforehand justifies everything. Although everyone knows long beforehand whose getting rolled next. We have imo two possibilities: Condemn the cancellation of treaties until a losing war is over. Or actually looking at the real situation at hand, and judging coalitions by friendships. Long standing treaties were always based on a good communication between alliances that lead to a friendship.

Why defend something when there is no friendship? The only thing IRON failed in, was cancelling the treaty in due time. But let's be honest: They'd have gotten the heat for that as well.

o/ Viridia, Great allies, I must say.

Business first, love later, mkey?

This is something we can support! Burn the pixels.

Thanks to our great Ninja friends! o/

Well, the definition of meat shields is that they don't have a free will. (at least mine). With this move they have proven to have one. For the outside world, it might be justified, I can understand that the relation between them and you is damaged.