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The Dear Hunter

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  1. For anyone asking for CSNs spin attempt, go read Penkala's blog. You'll get their heavily biased part.
  2. This is so much more thought out and presented a lot more fairly then anything i've seen on this subject yet. It is disgusting of CSN and their demands, i hope DT gets a respectable peace soon.
  3. I think you have it backwards, you are first and foremost a ruler of a nation.
  4. Just, just wow. I mean seriously. I hope TGE's members wise up and either leave to a better alliance or you guys save them from suffering horribly from your leadership and step down.
  5. Gotta remember some people take this game way to seriously, and either need those tags for themselves or for others who can not differentiate the in character to and out of character forum sections.
  6. Now onto the rest, shall we. I’ll agree the apology thing was off base, but then again I don’t see any surrender to them, no asking to be allowed to enter on another front. Let’s look at your comments again. Whelp. So are you still going with the line that everything you said has been truthful, no fabrication, and no lie? Let’s continue shall we. Oh my it looks like DT is not acting in good faith there, shame on them. Why Liz, why indeed? I mean it’s only DT who are acting in good faith and don’t want to negotiate. Now goose steps in and is level headed and calmly talks, he is actually an example of how it should be done, at least right now in this part of the logs he is. After one update, two full days later. They never accepted anything because they walked out on the negotiations. Where did they ask them to surrender, no were. It’s convenient to leave something out when it never happened. Whelp, you say if people know the truth, they wouldn’t trust DT. But when someone only show’s them apart and subjugated part of the truth, it’s kind of hard for them to come to any other conclusion that what you were pointing them in. Good job on being able to spout rhetoric in a believable way. You are wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong. I took your challenge I laid it out for you. You sir have covered up the truth, lied, and fabricated almost everything in your OP. So please, stop lying to everyone here. You made a really good attempt to sway other people to your opinion, and it would have worked until the full logs were released.
  7. Oh wow, they come up with a counter offer, Goose runs off. Yup it’s their (DT) entire fault for not negotiating in good faith. Your next statement. OK let’s get to the logs, but let me point something out at first. You say they must surrender to them, in your second sentence. Ok we can break that lie of yours with the full logs. We can also break your fallacy of them wanting to join in on another side. Hint it doesn’t come up. I already killed your theory of them not negotiating in good faith with the other set of logs. But I digress, let’s get to the second part of the logs no shall we. Now let’s break it down to show were you lied and fabricated in your OP. That’s two days, not one day like you seem to imply in your OP. Almost two complete days, it took for negotiations to start again. He walked away, and now two days later he is back to accept the agreement? It doesn’t work like that. He walked out of the room, more than once may I add. What you said in the OP Ahh, looks like Goose says it was never agreed upon, and they walked out with the intent of refusing it. I know you love to spin everything so you can give them something to read that fits your rhetoric, but again what you posted in the OP doesn’t equate to what is said in the full logs.
  8. Lets break down your statements compared to these logs. Right off the bat, he goes with some high numbers and an outrageous stipulation from only antions with 2k tech can pay. [quoite] [20:11] <@Liz> You agree to 40k yesterday. [20:11] <@Liz> Today we lower those and you debate it? [20:11] <@Liz> Are you dense? [20:11] <Myworld[dt]> huh? When did we agree to 40k? [20:12] <@Liz> You might want to work on those communication issues. [20:12] <TiTaN> We did, however it had to come from an outside source [20:12] <TiTaN> the issue here is that you are trying to make it come from 2k or more nations [20:12] <@Liz> Less than the 40k we wanted from your 2k nations initially. [20:12] <@Liz> It's gracious. Consider it such. After they talk about why they (CSN) deserves the reps, we have Liz start targeting their (DT) communication “issues”. Then she acts all tough and says “It’s gracious. Consider it such,” That doesn’t look to be negotiating in good faith. If you follow the logs it shows that they tried to engage them (CSN) on why the tech most come from 2k and above nations. Goose responds by leaving the negatations, and the MoFA says, “I guess we are done here.” Seems like CSN wants to negotiate and it is the ones in DT who don’t, if you can’t tell that’s sarcasm. We see here again that Liz is attempting to tell them that they (DT) have communication problems to the leader of the alliance. Seems like they’re under the guise of oh well you accepted it last night it’s not our problem if you have communication issues. Again great ability to talk to people there, Liz.
  9. First thing, there are no dates. So you can say in your little OP that they were “accepted” way faster than they were. That’s your first attempt to persuade the average on-looker to your favor. It goes on to show that they (DT) say they pulled the terms from the table because they walked off, but without dates or times this again looks bad for them. And when goose says yesterday, it also fits your notion of only one update had passed, not two days. You conveniently skip over the whole context of how and why they (DT) were pulling the reps off the table. Then you show Goose saying they accepted it, but never show him leaving the room and telling them anything about why he left the room. So your first snippet of logs looks pretty bad, because you cherry picked which parts to show. You make this statement in your OP, but I don’t see in your logs. Are you intentionally spewing stuff just to make the other side (DT) look bad? Because you didn’t back up your claim in the logs you cherry picked from. You also go on to say. You FULL disclosure? You didn’t even post the full logs, someone from DT did, that my friend is full disclosure. But ok lets go have a look at their (DT) logs and compare them to your OP and statements.
  10. [quote name='The MVP' timestamp='1297554069' post='2630672'] The reason why I didn't include Shogun and Medieval I is because most simply don't play them anymore. It would be very hard to record the games and show them to the public as well. Also I believe Shogun 2 comes out mid-March? Although I won't purchase the game myself I will set up a tourney for it if enough people do. [/quote] It's quite sad, i loved STW, i sitll play it way more often then i do any of the others. It was just the best one IMO. But yea it comes out Release: Mar 15, 2011. I also loved MTW I, as well. I guess i'm just a basics guy. But i already per-orderd it, so if anyone wants to get at me and play a game in march, i;m up for it.
  11. 1. I'm not in DT, but that's an over look-able fact. 2. Pick the most irrelevant point to my post, and reply. 3. Don't deny anything else i said that implies you fabricated and conveniently forgot details in your blog. It had all the makings of a great reply to my post.
  12. I guess no one plays STW anymore =/ We should just wait for STW II to come out then have a tourny on that. But i'd play either MWII or Napoleon.
  13. I could care less whose "surrendering" to whom. It was more to show that his rhetoric is being spewed with fabrication, and without full logs. When the full logs were shown, DT doesn't look half as bad as he claims. He conveniently forgets how Liz has acted in the negations, yet putting full blame onto DT. If he just forgets and fabricates one thing, how can we believe him not to be fabricating other parts of this whole blog.
  14. Whelp [23:09] <Myworld[DT]> We're not asking CSN to surrender [23:09] <Myworld[DT]> We're staying we part ways
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