Mark Ashton

[quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1300638430' post='2671121'] Your facetiousness detector isn't functioning properly. [/quote] That's not the only thing, trust me.

[quote name='NOMNOMNOMNOMNOM' timestamp='1300001336' post='2662651'] Mmhm. But really, what's the point of playing if I'm just getting nuked into oblivion? Isn't it supposed to be fun? [/quote] We [i]all[/i] feel sorry for you. Poor you is getting nuked. Quick call the UN....

I got curious and listened to it. The song was really good. So I thought "amazing"...and turned my speakers up. I have loud speakers, VERY LOUD SPEAKERS. And then, suddenly, there was a big loud BEEEEEEEP and a girl in the background giggeling saying she pushed the wrong button again. This left the stage of being mostly harmless. And yes, everyone realized you pushed the wrong button. And yes, you are famous now, my neighbors hate you

[quote name='NewPoseidon' timestamp='1300185041' post='2665466'] NpO (and Bob as a whole) will be more careful in the future. You can spin it one way and say they'll be careful of ebil "sting" conspiracies, or you can spin it another way and say they won't deliberately and consciously send out spies to major alliances. Either way, they'll be more careful. That is certain. I suppose I could acquiesce to the idea that the CB was debatable (even though it[i] shouldn't[/i] have been). But in the future it won't be. [/quote] Everyone.is.scared!

[quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1300021017' post='2662858'] Well, you clearly didn't believe this when you started VietFAN II, despite being told exactly what you're now posting by several people. You didn't believe it while you continued the war against them for over a year, until your power structure was no longer able to sustain it. The facts of what you speak about haven't changed (I'm sure you haven't just turned up a list of violations that was hiding behind a cupboard or something). So what has changed to make you believe it now, other than that you are now being rolled by (among others) FAN and you want to be able to exit the war sooner and with less harsh terms? I'd like to believe that the NPO has actually done some self inspection and realised that some things in its past are wrong. But the timing here is very suspicious. You claim that war 'reminded' you of the incident, but you were reminded of it many times in the past, by FAN posters like Atrophis, by Vox after the BLEU war and through war in Karma (when you even gave FAN peace! surely enough of a reminder!). [/quote] When will Bob Janova apologize for the actions of Viridia?

Everything with Hadrian that fails is a good thing Although I agree the flag is awesome. <br>

They have taken reps before thus we are allowed to take reps now? So because [i]they[/i] made a mistake [i]you [/i]are allowed to do the same mistake? Yeah CSN, this will be remembered. You'll pay it back, I wouldn't be too worried.

NSO you are boring that's why you fail and that's why I am posting here!1!!! NSO YOU ARE IRRELEVANT! NSO PLEASE DIE! Yeah. [i]You idiots.[/i] Let the interesting, controversial alliances die, and THEN complain about the boringness of Planet Bob. Happy Birthday NSO.

This definitely needs more MCXA love. Congrats guys. love love love

[quote name='Haflinger' timestamp='1298519598' post='2643476'] 'Twas before you guys got involved, I'm afraid. Somehow I don't think TOP defending their new protectorate against Continuum members attacking them for spying would have gone over too well. [/quote] Sorry, I might have missed it but what did they actually do to piss you off?

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1298423789' post='2642208'] Glad to see the reps finally finished, its been way to long on you guys. Best of luck moving forward. Edit: I also look forward to your next announcement [/quote] MDAP? Yeah, congrats. I won't sing, don't worry!

HAHA enjoyed the read. It was important to call him out. He is a hypocrite.

[quote name='jraenar' timestamp='1297741321' post='2633911'] You still have muffins. Your own little piece of Athens. [/quote] Very true. Athenian spais are everywhere [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1297743789' post='2633964'] As Emperor of TIO I heartily agree with this decision. Look for the bright side, Athens and TIO avoided the risk of pay reparations to CSN for using this ODP to join a war. [/quote] As Emperor of TIO I'd have canceled the treaty with the alliance with a little p between to large letters. Just sayin.

[quote name='scutterbug' timestamp='1297762491' post='2634315'] Well this will be interesting, a treaty that MHA members didnt even get a say on. [/quote] I smell internal drama! congrats anyways!

It'll be a good day for CN when 1. GOD burns and doesn't get terms 2. CSN burns because they are the sort of backboneless alliance that's only the tough guy when surrounded by a group.

[quote name='The MVP' timestamp='1297646474' post='2631760'] The funny thing is CSN has no one in their government to fall back on to help them negotiate outside of you. So either CSN's government is over the top incompetent outside of Goose from a negotiating standpoint, or you're the official mouthpiece of CSN. Either way CSN is an awful alliance and should disband. [/quote] I agree. I remember another alliance pulling the same crap last war. What was their name again? Gr... ahh I don't remember them Grrää? Oh right! Grämlins!

[quote name='Kilkenny' timestamp='1297296426' post='2627400'] Oh I do understand it...actions have consequences. Actions: Ask for MCXA to support you in a war Consequences: Get left hanging by MCXA Oh I get it, I really do. And we are having a fine old time thank you very much...you see we actually enjoy fighting..in fact [img]http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff130/kilkennyl/Casualties.png[/img] A special thanks to MK specifically delendum for making this all possible. (Chickenzilla....I am very disappointed in you...I thought you were going to be my big helper with that!!) And I wonder how that conversation with UINE went?? I mean if they had said no...would you have stayed??? I doubt it. [/quote] Yeah. We still consider this as one war. As such, at least according to my interpretation of things, strategically it made more sense to support SIRIUS. I think it's quite a natural thing that you can't always support all allies, especially when they fight on the same side. And I want to repeat that the decision was made by the government although many members wanted to keep fighting. MCXA sure has some problems but morale isn't one of them. The decision was made, because half of our treaty partners we joined in for, left the war - and if UINE said they'd definitely need us, we wouldn't have pulled a Valhalla. Like it or not, in any case even with the best military and organization, we wouldn't have made any impact anymore, and it made more sense for us to get out, and rebuild and make sure we can help our allies, in this case especially you and UINE to rebuild when they get out. That again, is called strategy - but you don't care, you are full of anger and emotions. That is your right but it isn't smart. [quote name='The Trail' timestamp='1297299656' post='2627466'] I think they are quite clear on the fact that you fought for sirius and not for TPF, and for that matter I think they dont care anyway. o/ TPF stay classy edit: spelling [/quote] Yes, because they were the first needing our help iirc. [quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1297307549' post='2627611'] Ok, post karma member of MCXA here. What's the story behind this? [/quote] If he is really talking about something happening three years ago then he is a poor person. Let's pray for him! [quote name='President S O' timestamp='1297338621' post='2627889'] Go, Go, STOP! Valhalla made it clear to ALL of their allies before this conflict escalated (and I believe even before that for some of us) that they wouldn't be keen on fighting for either of the Orders. Valhalla is not obligated to follow you blindly into a war that they want no part off, especially after they made it so clear that they wouldn't. If you're so ignorant as to not acknowledge the notification of intent then really, that's your problem. You want to call out Valhalla for not "defending" you... when really lets admit it, they'd be fighting the war for you, so days later you could peace out. Really, MCXA is in no place to call out allies for not coming in to save their sorry a**es. The least you could do is respect their decision. After all, you're extremely lucky to have treaties with both Val and TPF, considering the caliber of your alliance you certainly don't deserve their respect or friendship, in my opinion. If you don't like what they did, prevent it from happening again. o/ Valhalla Edit: Missed a word. [/quote] 1. I agree, Valhalla didn't need to join the war. 2. I don't think that you can judge MCXA and insulting us will not give your argument more validity. You are defending Valhalla for not fighting and at the same time you are attacking us for ...well not fighting anymore. That doesn't make sense. So I will r e p e a t it a g a i n: a. we entered on an ODP basis. b. everyone but UINE we defended pulled out before we did c. (conclusion 1) our reason to be in that war decreased 90% d. we approached UINE; they said it's fine e. We peaced out. 3. Yeah and you are coming where? HAHA! [quote name='KingEd' timestamp='1297339285' post='2627892'] Go figure...not a classy move, at all. Not to mention the non-chaining clauses in their treaties - especially since MCXA went in on an Optional Defense instead of waiting for one of their MDP+ Level treaties to drag them in. In any case, it's all history now. [/quote] I agree. That can be questioned. I hope it was cleared with the rest of the allies first. (which I don't know). But then again, the non chaining clauses go in both directions. They weren't obligated to defend us - but we aren't obligated to defend them either. I really hate it when people use both sides of two-sided contradictory argument against the same party. Stop it - hypocrites.

[quote name='Kilkenny' timestamp='1297294266' post='2627369'] Actually I didn't call you infra huggers...I was pointing out that you left an ally on the battlefield...AGAIN. Seems to be a habit with you. You knew the deal when you went in. But it seems that we are in, and will be for a while, all the while you sit on the sidelines...again. I acttually wasn't talking about TPF....I was talking about UINE...the allies you came into this war to support....Nice that you quote my post asking about them and you turn it into TPF. Instead on infra huggers it might be better to just call you WAE....but that might be granting you something that you prob don't deserve. [/quote] Actions have consequences. It's simple yet you don't seem to understand it. You make it sound like we fought for you - No, we didn't. We fought for SIRIUS and we went out after most of them surrendered. You are right, UINE is still out there and we approached them prior leaving. They were fine with it and encouraged us to. Oh and I forgot to mention we joined due to an ODP - we weren't even forced to especially taking into consideration that we have an awful history with the NpO. Now, TPF didn't join this war because of us, and you just recently signed a treaty with STA. That [i]isn't[/i] our problem. Whatever, have fun burning.

Grub my sweetheart - why so sensitive? We all know the "We are soo tough you can't do anything" strategy is a poor show. We want to see the[i] real [/i]Grub propaganda!. The frustrated, angry, mad Grub is much cooler. (although no one will care anymore because you have no nukes to back up your arrogance) But then again, it'll be a good laugh for everyone.

[quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1297178266' post='2625695'] So you're saying it's like they showed up at the party in their 4 door Honda Civic with an unopened bottle of malt liquor, picked out a chick who was already working her 6th rum and coke, dragged her out to the back seat, and is now bragging to friends about what a stud he is? [/quote] Yes, basically. You forgot the part where he still had to offer her money though

[quote name='unpronounced' timestamp='1297177711' post='2625684'] Disappointing = Can't take MHA down from #1. Your stats and NS talk does not amuse me. Is it our fault that we're bigger? Remind me who surrendered in this war again? KTHXBAI [/quote] meh becomes my favourite word in this game: meh. I don't think it's smart to compare the losses of two uneven alliances in two uneven situations. If you want to compare them you'd need to take the percentage of each nation taking out and receiving damage. (to the TFD guy) However MHA really has no ground to brag about this victory. I mean come on..

Oh good. So who won this war? I mean isn't the actual war still going on? I don't get it

[quote name='Balkan Banania' timestamp='1297075964' post='2623893'] An expected declaration and decision. My only problem is that TOP had and I believe still has the material and the skills to become a central CN alliance, and for some reason they cede part of their sovereignty to other alliances at the last time. Hopefully after this war they will actually decide to fulfill their destiny, if they are in a condition to do so of course. Apart from that I fail to see why you still try to play the victim in the Karma war, hell there is a post in your embassy stating that we threw you under the bus in the Karma war . Stop playing the victim, you are a big alliance stats wise, you should try and become a great alliance regarding politics as well. I don't hold any ill will towards TOP, but obviously I am cheering for the other side, so I wish you the worst concerning your declarations [/quote] meh. You can't accuse them of changing side every other war, because that would mean they are independent, AND accuse them of being meatshields at the same time. While I have been a little upset about that at the beginning, let's face it: NpO deserves it. (and yes, I think it's one war). I wanted to see them fighting against Polar though, although I must admit, NADC is ready for a good beating as well. They deserve it.

[quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1297018598' post='2622404'] I for one would like to see proof that we actually turned down a formal request to honor a treaty.... [/quote] Please get in line with the FA strategy of your alliance.

[quote name='Kilkenny' timestamp='1296916777' post='2620471'] Wonder how your Allies in UNIE are doing now that FARK has jumped on them?? Good job preseerving your infra....maybe next war you can make it double digit days?? [/quote] UNIE must be a cool new alliance, however we have no treaty with UN[b]IE.[/b] Also, we talked to our allies prior peacing out.