Mussolini the Great

[quote name='Ferdinand I' timestamp='1294615889' post='2570332'] Let me throw my 2 cents in this conversation aswell. I was one of the people responsible for this unfortunate treaty between TGE and TKoI. I had no information about the...political sentiments in TKoI. They seemed like a bunch of OK people, albeit not the brightest cookies in the jar. As soon as it was becoming more clear what kind of people TKoI were, I was going to propose that TGE would cancel its treaty because TGE's view on racism and other similar ideas is very clear- absolute zero tolerance! But surprise surprise before we got a chance to do that NoR decided to poach our allies. This is not a question whether TKoI has racist or whatnot members in it, fact is that TGE had a treaty with them and all the sudden they decided to sign equal treaty with NoR and drop the one with TGE. Considering the most unfortunate past of NoR i cannot possibly believe this to be a coincidence. And when someone ringed the alarm about TKoI then NoR suddenly noticed their mistake? All one has to do is to take a look of the names of nations NoR members have and one can see what the political sentiments of NoR are. I agree with Craig aswell, NoR might be "reformed" but NoR is still NoR and no amount of reforms will change that. Also i'm glad to see the anti-TGE hate club faithful activists Flinders and Shuru are drooling all over the place as always. Is there any TGE topic in the world that you 2 wont troll in? It has been years since your pathetic schemes failed in TGE, when are you going to get over it? Nordreich is accusing TGE of meddling with their affairs? I'm sorry but was TGE who made NoR's ally to drop treaty with them and sign one with TGE or was it other way around?! You can flame me for saying those things but if you remove your pink sunglasses and see things as they really are you'll know it's all true. Have a nice evening! Ferd [/quote] Oh what a load of total crap. After TGE has been caught in several lies you're REALLY going to try and pull a Leo? Pathetic. As for not being the brigtest cookies in the jar, that dosen't even make sense, for one, and two, I talked to you maybe once, so how you magically came to all of these conclusions are beyond me. As for warning everyone of our "racism", in case you havent noticed, that lie has already been debunked. If we are to assume you're NOT lying through your teeth, then we have to assume that this was all TGE sanctioned, and not the story thats being told, that is was just 1 or 2 members acting out in a fit of jealousy over us canceling on TGE. As for NoR "poaching your allies" I have news for you. WERE the ones who went to NoR, because they treated us like a real alliance and real allies, rather than an RP sandbox, which is all we seemed to be to TGE. Judging by all of these excuses TGE, it's ex members, and certian allies have came up with, it would seem TGE's policy on common sense, diplomacy, and intelligence is the same as it's policy on racism --- Absolute zero tolerance!

You SNEAKS!!!! lol Nah. This is TE. It's all about having fun. Weather were rolling someone or getting rolled, it's all good to me.

[quote name='Cataduanes' timestamp='1294434819' post='2567652'] Yeah I can imagine that would suit you all too well ...also in future take logs, you never know when they will come in handy. [/quote] Meh. Dosent really matter to me either way. Also, im a mibbit user sooo logs are a no go anyways

[quote name='Finnish Commie' timestamp='1294433941' post='2567626'] They have no obligation to share that information. It is completely different matter if it is morally right to do so and that is subjective. In any case if there was an alliance I considered to be an "opponent" I might withhold information from them because why in heck would I help them out? You should ask one of the participants in the discussions to share the logs. Like Mussolini for example (although those logs do make him seem a bit foolish now and then so I doubt he'll be the one sharing them around.) [/quote] I don't take logs, because im not the type that likes to record every single conversation with hopes of getting dirt on random people. Furthermore, I think anyone who has ever talked to me or knows me can obviously tell that im not a racist, nor am I foolish. But this has evolved beyond a TKoI situation, and into a NoR/TGE situation, so let's keep it that way

[quote name='Finnish Commie' timestamp='1294420531' post='2567390'] Well I've seen the logs and you were actually taking part in the conversations so I would assume you'd know [/quote] Well you would assume wrong then I suppose. This has turned more into a NoR vs TGE issue than a TKoI issue, but the TGE member in question has already admitted to witholding the "information", or rather, slipped up and didnt get his story striaght, soooooo yeah :/

[quote name='Finnish Commie' timestamp='1294408567' post='2567246'] TGE warned tKoI of the implications of recruiting from the forum in question. TGE was better of with tKoI leaving the protectorate and doing a new one with you. I don't think tKoI was that much better under us as you just dropped them and ran at the first possibility of a certain sort of implications [/quote] Oh so now TGE, or rather a member of TGE, on top of making accusations of racism, is puking up the bold face lie that they WARNED us not to do whatever it is were being accused of? *snarf* *snarf* "We tried to stop them but they over powered us!!!" Logs or it didnt happen.

[quote name='TheListener' timestamp='1294367341' post='2566593'] I'm sorry but your alliance has not done harm to just 1 alliance through this whole ordeal and to apologize to just 1 of them shows how ignorant you are of the full scope of this entire incident. I can think of at least two other alliances that were affected by the actions taken by your alliance. [/quote] I can name atleast 1 alliance that was rocked to its very foundation by this... a small alliance, but a member of the cyber verse nonetheless, that was forced out of an ally due to this......

[quote name='GulagArchipelago' timestamp='1294287480' post='2565346'] Way to ruin a raider's dreams Omni....you make me sad. [/quote] You sir, are a crab smoking a cigarette. This pleases me greatly

Again, IAA steps up to the plate and proves to be true friends to the Kingdom. o/ IAA o/ TKoI

[quote name='Xiphosis' timestamp='1294282725' post='2565210'] *points to the bottom right* That was a month ago. [/quote] Yeah. And these "logs" were "taken" about 2 months ago

[quote name='commander thrawn' timestamp='1294269928' post='2564884'] Please explain to me where you have any right to impose your will on TKoI. They are a sovereign alliance, also I feel I need to point out that being a Nazi, White Supremacist etc while despicable is perfectly legal and protected with free speech rights. If you actually cared you would have taken real action against them rather than using this as a political cugel against Nordreich. [/quote] This. It's such a disgusting double standard, isnt it? (OCC): Communism killed hundreds of millions of people. Nazism killed but a few million. I am not trying to defend Nazism, just pointing out the obvious.. Again, this is NOT in any way defending Nazism, or any ideology, nor is it the official opinion of TKoI, but mine alone. Yet, certian alliances entire theme can be made into communism, yet, when alligations of Nazism even hit the table, crap hits the fan. ( no offense to INT or FC. I <3 you lolololol).

[quote name='CnaedmacAilpn' timestamp='1294269170' post='2564860'] Interesting Mussolini, last night you spilled the beans and put certain people in a very bad light, now you attempt to save face. Well, you were the one who admitted you knew from the outset that certain people were from Stormfront, but thought it was only a 'nationalist site. Part of the deal was you would remove those that were part of stormfront. Yet you still have this individual [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=430115"]WITH ns[/url] in his name, which of course is the abbreviation for National Socialism. You were also clear about the fact that your alliance connections were linked directly to Stormfront when you signed up with Nordreich and that no objections came from them. I agree that perhaps we were a little tardy about releasing information, however we did expect an Alliance with Nordreich's history to be aware of such abbreviations, titles and links, also we wanted irrefutable proof first. So TGE wholeheartedly apologises for not not telling, spelling and pointing out in minute detail that a NS nation or a ruler called Germania88 may be bad or that openly advertised links to stormfront could cause embarrassment to any protector and that fascists may not necessarily be the politically correct people wanted by Nordreich. Either way I thoroughly enjoyed both our conversation and the logs that transpired thereof. [/quote] Germania 88 is an in game recruit, and not from anywhere but CN. I enjoyed our conversation too. Especially the part where you threatened me in real life if we didnt kick everyone from the alliance you thought were Nazis, or just disband. As for NS Germany, a message has been sent to him, asking him to leave. If you notice, GErmania88 is gone. Even though he was an in game recruit, I did so because of your badgering.

[quote name='wickedj' timestamp='1294267551' post='2564811'] Why yes, its all one big ole conspiracy just to screw you over. Shame on NoR for that NoR, remove TGE please? [/quote] Oh no It wasnt ment as a slide against NoR in any way.

This just in: TKoI drops TGE and goes to Nordreich, and all of a sudden, mysterious, elaborate logs pop up of us all being racists. Coincidence? I don't think so, but I will let you decide on that one. I still respect NoR, and I completely understand why they did what they had to do. Thing is, these logs are super elaborate, and we just have no means of proving their fabrication. Prop's to whom ever made these, because they certianly are elaborate. Nordreich are the coolest guys iv met in Planet Bob, and I hold nothing up the upmost respect for them. TGE, however, has proven it's self to be a snake entity once again, I am sad to say. These logs have also put me in a very bad position, so it is my deepest regret that I must step down as King of TKoI. I wish NoR and TKoI the best of luck. TGE? Heh. o/ NoR o/ TKoI

[quote name='BALAN' timestamp='1294192927' post='2563737'] I have made a choice to fight you guys and in anarchy or not the fight continues. Let the sound of gun fire lead you in the right direction. "KONG the TRAITOR" has the same government type as me awwww how sweet. I never did like you KONG and didn't want you in LE, just thought you should know how I really feel. Confusion I dont really know you that well but I dont like you either. [/quote] You declared on me, and stole my money . Well played, sir

[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1294190622' post='2563701'] You act as if using periods between words and recycling an overdone insult is going to make your actions palatable. Heads up, it doesn't work, bro. [/quote] And you wont respond to his point, which is if you dont like G-6, just attack us, and see how that goes for you

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1293901099' post='2560107'] Dog speaks better than he types, if that makes sense to anyone. Well done, old man. That war thread was probably the most epic war thread in the last several rounds. Proof alone that all involved were entertained! I darn near made Dochartaigh have a code blue crash-cart special all by myself. He's so sexsay when he gets uppity. Bonus bliss! YAY that's great news and - oh yeah, nuclear anarchy, right. o/ G6 o/ Romans o/ WAPA o/ WARRIORS! [/quote] Indeed. Alot of drama, but it was fun!

[quote name='Xiphosis' timestamp='1293813753' post='2559278'] I didn't say it because of your joke. [/quote] Oh so you said it just for the sake of being rude and obnoxious. Thanks for clearing that up. Futhermore, if you're waiting for us to disband, you're going to be waiting along time, Bro Montana

[quote name='Xiphosis' timestamp='1293813090' post='2559267'] I'll laugh when you and your crappy little alliance disbands. Think anyone will even notice? [/quote] You do know that it was a joke, right? No need to be rude. But rudeness and arrogance is nothing new to you, is it Xiphosis.

VE, I would just surrender now, tbh. Planet Bob has a new puppet master pulling the strings now. Cat Land be thy name

[quote name='White Chocolate' timestamp='1293744057' post='2558566'] Oh, I see where you're confused. One doesn't have to have a horse in THIS race to have a horse in THE races. [/quote] Thanks for clearing that up, mrs. lady

[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1293744228' post='2558568'] One would imagine that combatants on planet steve would believe less in win at all costs and more in a nice good fight where everybody can have fun. You need to understand that things work differently in TE then SE, or one would greatly hope so. Thanks for dispelling that myth and proving yourself to be a cancer to the notion of fairness in regards to war. [/quote] Yes. Things work quite differently in TE than they do in SE. That is why I find all of this to be funny. And reguarding everyone having fun, I don't know about you, but I had a ball And Thank you, Mp, for proving that you know absolutely nothing about the art of war.

[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1293743535' post='2558555'] You simply don't understand, certain things are just understood, and in a gunfight its understood that bullet proof vests aren't used. Its just interesting because consider had the opposite of this war happened. G-6 hid behind a truce that was intended to give people a break off from war during the holiday season, then you go and declare war. The more you post, the more I doubt your understanding of how things are and how things should be. As for complaining, regardless of where I'm at, I have a right to say exactly what I want, whats the matter, if that upsets you, I'd simply ask if you were mad as I continued on the pre-existing route. I wouldn't consider it complaining, you need to come to an understanding that not everybody who disagrees with you is 'complaining'. That seems to be something that all of RE and G-6 desperately need to come to understand. [/quote] And you simply don't understand that all is fair in war. Just because people don't play by the rules that you think they should, certianly does not mean that everyone who dosent follow your little players conduct code are underhanded snakes. And again, im not saying you don't have the right to say what you wan't, I just find it funny, seeing as how you're not involved. And I would say storming into RE's public chan, and calling them all very nasty names is definately complainig.

[quote name='White Chocolate' timestamp='1293743243' post='2558551'] Friend, you're new to the cyber world, aren't you... IF there is any right that is truly a right (as opposed to a "might"), it is to complain. Believe me, people will fight for that - consistently, loudly and often. [/quote] Ha. No I am not new to the cyberworld. That is hardly the case. Everyone has the right to an opinion, I a merely trying to say that so vehemently attacking RE and G-6 and defending tW, is quite futile and pointless, seeing as how he really has no horse in this race

[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1293738511' post='2558489'] Perhaps next you'll challenge somebody to an old-fashioned gun duel, and you'll wear a bullet proof vest to it, and when the guy you shoot complains, you'll say that he had every opportunity to put one on himself. [/quote] And you know what? That would be completely fair. Let's run with your analogy here for a moment. If guy A had every chance in the world put on a bullet proof vest, and he dosent, knowing that a potential enemy, guy B, IS indeed going to put on a vest, when guy A gets shot, he has no warrent to complain. Further more, if you're not even in any of the alliances involved, YOU definately have no right to complain.