[quote name='juanveldez' timestamp='1298045614' post='2637594']
This could very easily be settled. But, allow me to play a little devils advocate here. Did anyone stop to think about the opposing view? There have been many posts liking CSN to NPO. Now historically NPO was tyrannical and evil, and they deserved what they got. Now show me where in history CSN was the same? Furthermore, if you can not find it in history then you can not paint the two with the same brush.
Now to the issue of the reps. Did you ever stop to consider that they are not able to back down from them now? By going public and getting the whole world mad at them you have successfully painted them the villain and cemented them into the corner that they find themselves in. To a point where they can't successfully withdraw the reps and not look like a donkey's rear so they must stay the course, and be the part of the villain, which will only cause more hatred and as many have so kindly pointed out will end with the eventual rolling of CSN.
Now remembering that these are my opinions and mine alone. I honestly think that as was said just prior that neither side is going to be 100 percent happy with the end result. And, that both sides need to grow up a bit and as history has shown swallow their foolish pride and get down to the bones of the issue.
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I believe regardless if CSN feels "painted into corner" or not, the community does not wish to see peace with reps such as these established as acceptable. DT could have posted those logs alone without commentary and we'd still be at this same juncture. Even if DT was being "cheeky" in their negotiations, this is not the main war front and asking for reparations here is up surd. They helped an ally they were asked to help (which seems to be a running trait in DT's alliance chains) and regardless of what peace may have been on the table for LoSS, no one was leaving until everyone one got peace. In fact, why would LoSS agree to a peace just for them? It would only serve to help CSN carry out more efficient wars on LoSS's allies. Such a peace's only result would be to divide and conquer.
As for pride, I truly think it is CSN's leadership's pride that is the issue, after all they got the PR black eye. They could just drop the reps and peace out of this front and go have fun on other more important fronts. I will have no issue applauding them for coming around to their senses and bringing an amicable end to this war. DT certainly has pride in themselves, but yet again I don't believe they will allow this type of "peace" to be established as acceptable behavior, which benefits countless alliances besides themselves.
Here's to a white peace for all sides involved *takes shot.* Hey... don't look at me like that... its five o'clock somewhere... I don't care that its before noon... its my day off!