Rorin

There are two specific elements of sovereignty that must exist and be defined before an entity can considered "sovereign". De jure, or legal, sovereignty is the theoretical right to exercise exclusive control over one's subjects. De facto, or actual, sovereignty is concerned with whether control in fact exists. It can be approached in two ways: - Does the governing power have sufficient strength (police, etc.) to compel its subjects to obey it? If so, a type of de facto sovereignty called coercive sovereignty exists. - Are the subjects of the governing power in the habit of obeying it? It is generally held that sovereignty requires not only the legal right to exercise power, but the actual exercise of such power. That is, "No de jure sovereignty without de facto sovereignty." In other words, neither claiming/being proclaimed sovereign, nor merely exercising the power of a sovereign is sufficient; sovereignty requires both elements.

I realize that, I just considered your post rather misleading because it had just seemed as if you were accusing Chimaera of taking the forums down for an excuse to spy on Spam-a-lot, which was clearly not the case.

You do realize that Chimaera isn't the forums admin for IAA, right? It was flowingfire.