Iron Helix

Probably be too much of an overhaul, but I think it'd be interesting to see what it'd look like if you incorporated the tour of generals gameplay completely into CN. You have your nation and your enemy nation displayed on a google maps and you can move armies around, a certain amount each day. A successful victory within the enemy nation gives you standard rewards, and if you capture the capital, if sends a defeat alert.

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"War?! The time has come," the Walrus said "To speak of other things Of shoes and ships and sealing wax Of cabbages and kings And why the sea is boiling hot And whether pigs have wings Calloo-Callay No war today! We're cabbages and kings"

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[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1322481713' post='2854773'] Also Iron Helix, propaganda is like jokes, if you need to explain them it's because they are not that good. [/quote] Your proposition is false in that good jokes are explained quite often. Sometimes the very act of explaining an obvious joke can become a joke in and of itself. Inside jokes are another common occurrence, where if one is not familiar with the subject/context, an explanation becomes necessary to understand it. It shouldn't be too hard to demonstrate. Simply watch some late night comedy shows and see if you understand 100% of the jokes 100% of the time. At some point you, as I and most people probably have, didn't catch the nuance of the joke and missed the humor, whereas perhaps some or even most of the rest of the audience did.

[quote name='Tygaland' timestamp='1322479236' post='2854758'] If you need a mini thesis to explain your propaganda then it is probably crap. [/quote] English isn't a first language for many players, so the subtleties of propaganda can be missed. Also if what you say were true, it'd be a viable tactic to question and invoke conversation about every piece of effective enemy propaganda to induce the opinion that it is "crap" (some would call it trolling), which I've noticed you seem to be doing in this thread.

[quote name='Kharon the Ferryman' timestamp='1322477796' post='2854749'] Wonderful. I was waiting for you to reply. Right now, looking plainly at the picture, you can only understand it one way: 1) Avalanche offered reps 2) IRON believed they were genuine 3) Avalanche lost the battle (reps are payed after the conflict). You're jumping ahead of yourself and saying that the war is lost for Avalanche - incorrect, the war is still going. And the fact that character IRON thinks or believes that Avalanche has lost makes the third picture fit the scene just perfectly, saying: "Is she really loosing?", he's injecting doubt, the whole point of this so called meme. All this is possible just cause the end result of the war is not defined. If to put the picture in context with the thread you're referring to then it makes more sense what'd you want to say, but you screwed up with the second line. The reps couldn't been for losing a war, at that point the reps were supposed to be for rogue attacks cause there wasn't a DoW yet. So the correct line to express your idea would be something like "THAT'S WHAT ROGUES USUALLY DO" or "ISN'T THAT WHAT ROGUES DO?". In both cases you would still look a little silly for believing in the good nature of rogues which they simply lack cause otherwise they wouldn't be rogues, would they? The reason that there's no way out of this for you is the reason why I was surprised to see this posted by you. All in all, the tiny slip makes the graphic a masterpiece in my opinion. [/quote] I'll put it succinctly to stop this thread drift: 1) Avalanche character asks if IRON character was gullible. 2) IRON character doesn't answer question directly but states in a witty manner the fact that losing alliances usually [pay reparations] - the joke being that the IRON character is calling Avalanche the losing alliance in the now current war. The phrase Losing alliance was what was meant to be there to address the current conflict. The idea of rogues is a red herring. If I had wanted to have the IRON character say a rogue nation usually pay reparations when a mistake is made, there'd be no joke.

[quote name='Kharon the Ferryman' timestamp='1322472032' post='2854706'] Wonderful work of art! [b]Many ways of reading it. [/b] Definitely made my day. Though I am a bit confused why you are the one posting this. Which makes it even more wonderful. [/quote] Not really. Which makes more sense: 1) a losing alliance expecting Avalanche to pay reps OR 2) a losing alliance being expected to pay reps by its enemies Putting it into context, Avalanche offers to pay reps for what it tries to play off as a mistake, when it's in reality just the ineptness of its membership. In context for scenario #1, if IRON were "losing", a) why would it be looking for reps, b) why would avalanche offer reps; more importantly, do losing alliances usually expect [b]avalanche[/b] to pay reps? The context of "usually" implies a pattern seen in Cyber Nations where losing alliances are the ones who pay reparations. Period. Although I will admit the grammar could have been improved to avoid confusion for those who fail to apply the logic of context.

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[quote name='Bob Ilyani' timestamp='1322347076' post='2852926'] This is beyond glorious, but perhaps the one thing that would make it better is if you took out the generic blue background of the SAP and replaced it with the silver-blue pattern that makes up NpO's flag. The coincidence is just too good to pass on, in my opinion. [/quote] Wot, you mean like this?: [img]http://i.imgur.com/yJUvJ.jpg[/img]