[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1281663941' post='2413617']
What in God's name are you trying to talk about? I do believe I've been quite courteous here, and I doubt I have used the words "fail," "bahbahbah," or "nenenenenene" at all in this discussion. I would at least like to think I have a better vocabulary than a six year old.[/quote]
He's probably not referring to you, but to Sedrick. That's the way he was conducting conversation on our forum (you can check out the Shoutbox -pages 56, 59, 60, 61 etc., to see what I mean).
thenewevolution.smfforfree.com is the link to our forum and the shoutbox is free accessed.
[quote]As for the spy attack, it was conducted by a member of TENE's government I believe.[/quote]
not true. I, as a member of TENE's government tried to finish the whole thing between Sed and Adzzz. There was no order for any kind of attack against Sed before he said the alliance's leader, Emperor Feroz, to screw himself!!! The order things happened was:
1. Adzzz was spied twice by someone who was not identified
2. He thought that it was Sedrick
3. Sedrick started insulting Adzzz, threatening TENE members and saying that he considered Adzzz's accusations as a reason for war. (check Shoutbox, pages 59-61)
4. Sedrick changed his defcon and threat level and tried to join MHA, but he was rejected.
5. Adzzz spied on Sedrick.
6. Emperor Feroz tried to settle the whole thing, but got by Sedrick the answer I told you above ("screw you").
7. Sedrick attacked our members and anarchised them
8. Rok got informed of the whole situation and decided to help us.
9. The rest is history...
[quote] Usually that means it is sanctioned. But let us not get hung up on this subject, but quite frankly everything about the Sedrick situation is absurd, and it is far more productive watching paint dry than trying to make sense of that.[/quote]
I disagree. I think that we could all make sense of that if nso were willing to discuss on it, when it was time -but they weren't. I actually can not understand NSO's stance and how Sedrick convinced them to go into this. I have some ideas, but I will not state them here (check our Shoutbox, page 63 and you'll see what I mean). Anyway, I think that NSO members know better.
[quote] As for this war being started by a failure in diplomacy, you are absolutely correct. However, the NSO is not the only party to blame. While I will personally acknowledge that we should not have strayed from our policy of not assisting ZI listed members with problems from before they joined the alliance, when others from the NSO got around and saw the situation, RoK had already reached a decision. This was before diplomacy was even attempted. Mistakes and overreactions were made on both sides, and had either party been able to put aside personal pride this entire situation could have been avoided.[/quote]
Once again I'll have to disagree. RoK had a very good knowledge of the situation -right after Sedrick anarchised some of our members- while NSO accepted him and aided him without asking us -even now they haven't tried to contact us and when I tried to inform the guy who attacked me of the situation, I got an answer referring to the Brotherhood of the Storm, and saying that they, as us, were used as a tool to get to someone else and that NSO would do this as painfull as possible for us... uh, I also got a nuke, but I guess this is part of being in war with someone
The only reason I'm writing all this stuff is because this war has been based on two major lies: the first is that we, the members of TENE, are lying on Sedrick's attitude and behaviour and on our right to attack him and the second is that RoK had no knowledge of the situation, while NSO knew better what they had to deal with.
Oh, and a last thing: After he got the $6M grants that our members get for passing the academy test, Sedrick decided to leave the alliance, just by adding a "goodbye" message at the Shoutbox! I reminded him that according to our charter he can not leave before 90 days pass after he gets the grants, and got some absurd replies, containing some threats that I should not play games with him and call him a liar (sic!). He finally left before these 90 days, and found home and protection in NSO, although he never paid back anything and was not allowed to leave. Shouldn't someone from NSO ask us about this thing? We tend to ask all our new members if they have any obligations against their previous alliances and when we are not sure we keep their applications on hold till we are sure that all issues are solved (I guess all alliances do so -at least that's what we did in my previous alliance, TOOL, with my previous nation). Sedrick had a lot of obligations to TENE, but -I have to repeat it- no one from NSO ever asked us anything -in contrast to RoK and our allies in this war who asked and keep asking a lot of things to have a clear knowledge of the whole situation.
anyway... all I have to do is to send all of you my wishes for best luck in this and the coming wars.
