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  1. The Hired GOONS Act

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    [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='11 June 2010 - 10:06 PM' timestamp='1276315596' post='2334480']
    [color="#0000FF"]No. You'd succeed anyway. It isn't like you'd be going in alone. You'd be ganging up on the fellow as you usually do. You'd just get more profit though, not that profit is your motive anyway. No, you would attack because you are an alliance of thugs. Simple as that.[/color]
    [/quote]
    That kinda depends on a lot of factors, though.

    Depending on the NS range of the target we may or may not have enough people to devote to a full 3 on 1. We do have a lot of other raiding going on. As well as things like dealing with EoGs (three of them in low range right now), dealing with ghosts for our allies (MK and Umbrella), or just dealing with rogues who hit GOONS.

    Now, sure, if we had a ton of people in a certain range we'd probably gang up on them for fun. But can't always guarantee that. Now, if there's money involved, people can stretch their NS and accomplish a lot more. And there's more motivation behind it since not 100% of GOONS will jump on every war; some of them only do it for profit (tech for instance). If the person has nothing to offer financially, some of us would still do it, but not all of us.

    Offering cash is the way to go if you want a guaranteed outcome.

  2. The Hired GOONS Act

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    [quote name='Dr Beefstupid' date='11 June 2010 - 10:01 PM' timestamp='1276315284' post='2334469']
    Oh, Rebel Virginia. You're like a Better Business Bureau. Don't change. :)
    [/quote]
    He does have a point though. We'd probably attack people just for fun. Just odds of success are much higher if there's money involved.

  4. The Hired GOONS Act

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    [quote name='John Diesel' date='11 June 2010 - 09:57 PM' timestamp='1276315025' post='2334451']
    This is very interesting... I wonder who will be the first to use this, and how they will take advantage of this service.
    [/quote]
    The "first" was IAA paying us 9m to attack a guy which is what made us think of doing this officially. In the past we've thought about it and rolled the idea around. But we're giving it a serious try now.

  9. Inspirational War for all little countries.

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    Posted · Edited by Beefspari

    [quote name='Islamic Republic' date='11 June 2010 - 06:30 PM' timestamp='1276302635' post='2334087']
    Warned on the OWF? try banned 3 times by the same person as well as being constantly harassed both in game and the forums, all i wanted was a 5 letter Sorry in private(no witnesses). What happened more IAA harassment and laughing. You will feel my wraith for your bad behavior i will not tolerate your alliance members behavior any longer, as this war proved. And voodoo nova was hardly the only one, just the first and most important.
    [/quote]
    Wait, how is it Voodoo Nova's fault that you broke numerous rules and got your self banned twice?

    Sure he reported you but you jumped into a no-discussion thread and had a heated argument with a mod over the rules of the forum. You posted things that are against the rules and think it's someone else's fault you got in trouble? Would you have gone to war with anyone who pointed out you were breaking the rules? Is your sense of morality and justice "getting back at anyone who tries to enforce the rules of the game I'm playing" ? You first got banned because your forum name didn't match your nation ruler name. This is a rule of the forums and is non-negotiable. How is it Voodoo Nova's fault that you decided to ignore it?

    We're all laughing at you because you keep coming back and getting yourself banned. It's not our fault you keep doing it.

    And believe me, nobody is feeling your "wraith" (ew?), and nobody ever will. Nobody is hurting from your attacks. Nobody is shamed by the war. Nobody thinks you're doing the morally right thing (except RV I guess). Nobody is impressed at the damage you did (or claimed to do). Nobody is impressed with your harbor (everyone has harbor, FYI). In fact, everyone but you probably profited from this whole thing. And if you keep doing it for some deluded sense of justice, we'll just have fun laughing at you some more while you lie about having done tens of millions of damage again.

    And you never even attacked Voodoo Nova anyway. You just hit random people in IAA because of your temper tantrum.

  11. Inspirational War for all little countries.

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    [quote name='Islamic Republic' date='11 June 2010 - 03:44 PM' timestamp='1276292644' post='2333805']
    Considering when they declared war on me i was in full swing knocking IAA and had a greater air force at that time then them combined, i find it hard to believe there ignoring the 2x daily bombing runs, including on captain nova himself.
    [/quote]
    I know you're just making this up but,

    How do you explain Novolin's infra only fell from 399.99 to about 380 if you were bombing him daily? And sending CMs? And doing GAs?

  12. Inspirational War for all little countries.

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    [quote name='Islamic Republic' date='11 June 2010 - 02:31 PM' timestamp='1276288283' post='2333612']
    Also: Are you claiming we destroyed $8m in pure infrastructure? <- where did i say this?
    [/quote]
    In response to my question on what happened to that 8m you said you spent it all on infra which got bombed/CMed away. You have no money now and are at ZI. So did we destroy 8m in pure infra or are you changing your story again?

    [quote name='Islamic Republic' date='11 June 2010 - 02:38 PM' timestamp='1276288685' post='2333626']
    Apparently you believe there "fake" so there's no point showing you them if there all fake, and i never had a plane, right?, even though at my highest i had more tech and infra then you do now.
    [/quote]
    We believe they're fake because they [b]are[/b] fake. None of the people you claim to have attacked had anywhere near enough money for you to have stolen several million -- even if you had succeeded. Their charts show their NS drops, their infra shows how much it changed, and none of them were sent any battle reports like the ones you're claiming. You say you did hundreds of infra in damages when anyone can clearly see how much the infra changed and know you're making it up. You spiraled into anarchy and had single digit soldiers within a day. You never pulled off GAs or any other attacks for that matter.

  13. Inspirational War for all little countries.

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    [quote name='Islamic Republic' date='11 June 2010 - 02:10 PM' timestamp='1276286993' post='2333571']
    Well who did, GOONS declare war on, Oh right me![/quote]
    Some IAA guy dropped in to tell us about your hilarious sitcom. He offhandedly mentioned he'd pay us if we went to war with you. GOONS like money. GOONS like war. GOONS like threads like this one. Seemed the obvious choice.

    Doesn't mean we're allied with IAA.

    Also: Are you claiming we destroyed $8m in pure infrastructure?

  14. Inspirational War for all little countries.

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    [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='11 June 2010 - 01:31 PM' timestamp='1276284698' post='2333525']
    [color="#0000FF"]Anarchy doesn't mean a thing these days. I've been there quite a few times but that never has stopped me. Of course, I doubt GOONS doesn't teach you fellows that anarchy isn't the end of all things. Might I suggest joining a decent alliance? Perhaps you may pick up a thing or two.

    And you, Islamic Republic, I salute you. Any enemy of GOONS is a hero in my eyes, and I assure you, one day I too will give to them a crushing defeat.[/color]
    [/quote]
    Um it's not the anarchy but the ZI. Just so you know. He actually collected taxes in anarchy to buy 0.15 infra just to taunt us and claim we didn't "finish the job," although that 0.15 got shaved off afterward.

    And I know you're all anti-GOONS and all, but even I could find you someone better to support than this guy. He's faking battle logs and making up extremely wild figures trying to get a reaction out of everyone. This is like the fourth thread he's made about this topic, trying to claim he defeated GOONS or something when all he did was throw 2 CMs at three goon nations on his way to being ZIed.

    Almost everything he's said so far has been a lie. You could at least support someone like Methrage who at least sort of told the story right and didn't come out with something like "I was picking flowers when the entire GOONS-NV-Ragnarok-FEAR alliance descended upon me and declared 8 wars at once! However I was able to steal over 270m in the battle and do 18b in damages to their nations!"

    We're actually just waiting to see how far his lies go because they get more outrageous every day.

    [quote]To: Beefspari From: RadicalFanatic Date: 6/6/2010 3:57:31 AM

    Subject: RE: Hey guy!

    Message: Oh you will win, but im proud of myself, im pretty awesome! i did over 12mil of damages to your alliance and my nation was worth 70,000 xD but yeah nice to meet you. now stop wasting my clicks im trying to talk...[/quote]

    He claims to have done over 12m in damages, and then said he did another 3m, and said he stole 6m on his first day from GAs, and another 2m the next day, somehow netting him 8m that he never spent on anything (his NS never rose and he was never able to retaliate with anything but CMs) even though on the day of declaration from GOONS he was shown to only have $7 (yes $7) on him through spy ops.

    The only thing that DID happen here is he declared on a peacetime IAA person and stole a chunk of cash which he barely used before getting ZIed (twice). All the while spouting incredibly massive lies about completely impossible battle outcomes from attacks he didn't even launch. All for attention? I think so. But the whole reason GOONS is here still talking is because we find this stuff hilarious, as you well know.

    Come on RV. I know we're buddies but let's find someone better and more worthy of your attention who can hate GOONS with you. :wub:

  15. Inspirational War for all little countries.

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    I thought you told me you stole 8m and did over 15m in damages.

    Even though I sent you the damage reports showing you didn't even do more than 500k in damages (just a few lobbed CMs).

    Also we got paid to war you so we profited about $8.5m.

    Also we aren't allied to IAA or Athens.

    Also what did you spend all that money on you supposedly stole? It definitely didn't go into your nation since your strength fell daily and you were only able to attack once.

  16. Selling 40 tech 1.5mil - i send first

    in Black Market

    Posted · Edited by Beefspari

    [quote name='NationReaper' date='04 June 2010 - 07:32 PM' timestamp='1275701536' post='2323974']
    You are claiming to have stolen 6 mil but you have only supplied one battle report..you claimed the battle report was from a GOON nation unless I read it wrong and in all actuality it was an IAA nation you took by suprise.
    [/quote]
    I wouldn't read too far into it. He's making up everything. I checked and nobody else had enough money for him to have stolen any more. But even if he had, further communication has him claiming he stole a total of 8m and did a further 12m worth of damages to goon nations.

  17. Selling 40 tech 1.5mil - i send first

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    [quote name='Islamic Republic' date='04 June 2010 - 01:50 AM' timestamp='1275637836' post='2323262']
    Why not try me, i send tech up front not to mention i single handedly stole 6mil tonight and 15 tech and will steal another 2mil easy 100% guaranteed tomorrow :).
    [/quote]
    You didn't have enough stats to have spent 6m. And you were spied and revealed as only having $7. You also haven't sent money out to anyone. So where'd all that 6m go?

    Also: No you won't. You can't rebuy anything and are sitting on less than 200 eff soldiers.

  18. GOONS Announcement

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    [quote name='Believland' date='20 May 2010 - 07:23 PM' timestamp='1274404973' post='2306197']
    Sorry to break your heart, broskie. But you guys didn't say that at all. You basically said "Dude, I swear, EoG is not PZI!!!one11!!"
    "Really? How so?"
    Then you go on a tangent about Meth. Oh yeah, you also said something about how you guys let people off easier... But that really doesn't matter when if comes to PZI.

    So the next time someone says something about it, you have a good response. But, I am glad that you finally spat out your answer though.
    [/quote]
    I said this on page 9:

    [quote name='Beefspari' date='19 May 2010 - 07:20 PM' timestamp='1274318412' post='2303979']
    ZI sometimes happens as part of the EoG system, but it's not the goal or intent.
    [/quote]
    It's also been discussed at length with more or less that same explanation in any one of the dozens of threads people keep trying to bring this up in regarding us and EoG lists. So sorry if we don't feel the need to explain it the correct number of times in every thread when someone brings it up every two pages.

  19. GOONS Announcement

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    [quote name='Believland' date='20 May 2010 - 01:56 PM' timestamp='1274385344' post='2305591']
    Why didn't you just say that in the first place?
    [/quote]
    Why is it all our threads result in someone arguing against us saying this?

    We do say this. In the first place. Like ten times every thread this comes up. But someone still shows up who thinks they know how we do things, and starts running their mouth. Every time. This was already said as much several times in this thread. And just about every thread we make, someone shouts "GOONS does PZI?! Evil!"

  20. GOONS Announcement

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    [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='19 May 2010 - 09:35 PM' timestamp='1274326539' post='2304154']
    [color="#0000FF"]Also, I will not cut GOONS slack. I will not ignore actions I clearly detest.[/color]
    [/quote]
    We're glad you don't. Conversations wouldn't be half as fun if you did. :wub:

  21. GOONS Announcement

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    [quote name='Mr Damsky' date='19 May 2010 - 09:07 PM' timestamp='1274324820' post='2304120']
    Except he did learn that. He asked for peace and you gave, what he believed to be, humiliating terms.

    Plus I think I'd learn that my actions have consequences if I was ZI'd.
    [/quote]
    Sigh. :rolleyes:

    No. Wrong. He didn't learn anything. His friends had to bail him out because he was too stubborn to admit he did anything wrong. SOME of his terms could've been considered humiliating. We gave him other terms like giving us tech. He opted to continue the war and have us take all the tech through GAs rather than just give us the tech. He'd rather lose 100% of his tech and have his nation deleted than just give us the tech, all because he didn't want to admit he did anything wrong. Does that sound like someone who learned their lesson?

    He didn't ask for REASONABLE peace. He asked for white peace, as if he had done nothing wrong. The person on the end of the stick doesn't dictate terms. You don't look up into the face of the people holding you down and say "Fine, how about I give you a dollar and we call it even?" Methrage was never in a position to negotiate terms and offer his own peace negotiations. What he wanted was the ability to not take responsibility for his actions and walk away unharmed and without any sacrifice or apologies on his part. That's not peace.

    He obviously didn't learn that his actions have consequences either. He was ZIed, then given secret aid, bounced back, and immediately returned nukes. Does that sound like someone who learned their lesson? Or believes their actions have consequences? Every time he'd hit ZI, someone would send him money, and he'd send more nukes.

    Is that the kind of person you'd just let off the hook after one ZI? A person who has every ability to bounce back and will (and does) send nukes right after you ZI him? When you're walking away saying "Okay you're ZIed, good game," he throws a nuke at you and declares on more of your allies? Are you just going to sit there and watch him destroy all your allies because "he learned his lesson" when you ZIed him once? Is THAT what you're saying?

  22. GOONS Announcement

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    Posted · Edited by Beefspari

    [quote name='Believland' date='19 May 2010 - 08:02 PM' timestamp='1274320944' post='2304025']
    If you ZI him and he doesn't try to come after you guys then what's wrong with letting him rebuild? Obviously, if he's still fighting at ZI then you're justified. Now attacking people who are not continuing their attacks on you after ZI is bad.
    [/quote]
    Yeah, there was no "he doesn't try to come after you" about it. He'd hit ZI, then get secret aid, buy 1000 infra, and lob nukes. He declared several wars against us. He waved his nukes around saying "Peace with me or you get nuked." What everyone is saying about "omg ZI multiple times how ebil" is just coming out of the mouths of people who don't know the situation.

    EoG means we war them until they give up or we get bored. Not to mention, if they end up as EoG they did something to end up there. There are no "innocent children" sitting on our EoG list who don't deserve to be attacked. ZI can happen but isn't the goal. Methrage had plenty of chances to end the war but didn't want to take them. So TOP stepped in. Problem solved. Nothing left to discuss.

    This thread isn't about PZI/EoG or even Methrage (directly) anyway.

    [quote name='Mr Damsky' date='19 May 2010 - 08:59 PM' timestamp='1274324347' post='2304104']
    Yes, that is exactly what I am suggesting.
    [/quote]
    Okay, well have fun with that. Let us know how it goes. :v:

  23. GOONS Announcement

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    [quote name='Haquertal' date='19 May 2010 - 07:54 PM' timestamp='1274320475' post='2304017']
    You're absolutely right. Right after ZI'ing him, we should've let him rebuild, so then he could nuke us again, and we'd ZI him again... oh wait. We can't because that's just [b]mean[/b].
    [/quote]
    After we ZI him and he rebuilds, we can't attack him ever again. Even if he nukes us repeatedly. That would be PZI, which is bad.

    Although I suppose we could reduce him to 1 infra. That's still okay, right? :v:

  24. GOONS Announcement

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    [quote name='Mr Damsky' date='19 May 2010 - 07:16 PM' timestamp='1274318196' post='2303970']
    Once the nation hits ZI do you continue to attack them?
    [/quote]
    Are you suggesting that rogue nations you're at war with should just be taken to ZI once and then sent on their merry way even if they've been getting tens of millions in secret aid and nuking your alliance?

    ZI sometimes happens as part of the EoG system, but it's not the goal or intent.

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