Toshiro Hitsugaya

[quote name='The Pansy' timestamp='1294905132' post='2573912'] You are not willing to prove yourself to an alliance to gain a position? I can give you an instant [b]Not Accept[/b] from Olympus, so you can remove that from your potential list. [/quote] lol laughable. I never considered that nuclear waste dump.

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*sigh* right not it looks like deleting is my # 1 bet. There was a day when finding an alliance was easy... it just gets tougher and tougher.

[quote name='Shakya' timestamp='1294821523' post='2573003'] Try MHA. We are not so big like 1000 members. we are a mid size 650+... [/quote] Right just the largest alliance in CN :/

Well as of recently I have decided to toss things around and try something new and different. I have been playing Cybernations off and on for around 3 years now. I have much experience in every position that anyone could mention not to mention I have started several alliances, which sadly do not work out due to lack of other devoted members. What I am looking for. -I am looking for a mid sized or small alliance. -I am looking for an active alliance with a decent membership. -Alliance must have decent boards or be willing to get new boards. -Leader must have some experience in previous alliances such as previous leadership roles. -I do not take tests, or do academy, and I am looking for a position in government (Second In command, Minister of Internal Affairs, Minister of Development) something along those lines. -The alliance must be looking to succeed, and not be an alliance that is all about WAR ALL THE TIME. What can be expected from me. -I work my butt off recruiting and helping out where I can. -Expect my opinion on everything and be able to take criticism. -Expect my devotion I will take secrets to the grave, and do what I can to protect my fellow alliance mates. -Expect professionalism. I strongly believe work before play. Well anyways if you have a question then ask me via PM here, pm in game, or on IRC channel #Hitsugaya Thanks Hitsugaya

[quote name='Keve69' timestamp='1294561933' post='2569584'] To answer your question I've never intended to take this this far, I'm not the one rehashing this topic again on the OWF. I've been trying to end this issue ever since it started to be honest. In fact as soon as I heard about it I went to AiD and got the situation resolved in less than an hour. The reason why I went with Option C is because I wanted to help AiD, genuinely. They didn't want to attack the rogues and the rogues didn't want to pay a damn dollar to AiD. I got AiD the peace they wanted and I thought 'jeez, those AiD guys all have their slots empty' let's see if I can't do anything for them. I proposed to get them sorted out with tech deals and it was promptly accepted. Furthermore, *I* went out of my way to post a public apology that night, AiD didn't ask for one and didn't care when I offered to make one. The fact that I did is not an act of arrogance. Now before you come out and tell me that I was somehow looking to make a profit with those deals, thats just plain silly. Tech is worth a lot more than money and we all know that, additionally, its not like UINE has a shortage of buyers for that tech or that I was desperately looking for someone to pick it off us from, please. In a situation where I wasn't at fault I took tech which would have been bought by our own nations and gave AiD first dibs, nothing was forcing me to do that and sure as hell wasn't arrogance. UINE didn't owe AiD reps and the fact that what was originally an act of kindness has been twisted and construed like that is nonesense. [/quote] Conveniently you forget to mention everything after that leading up to this point....

Very nice. Congrats!

[quote name='Antoine Roquentin' timestamp='1294561281' post='2569570'] If a member of my alliance went rogue(implying termination of membership) and I kept him masked while supposedly expelling him, it would make sense to ZI me. [/quote] While they are still involved in alliance tech deals I might add.

[quote name='9dj12' timestamp='1294561184' post='2569569'] Keve is getting ZI'd for not demasking people on his own forum. That sure sounds like someone is trying to control it. [/quote] Mhmmm well if Keve69 is only being ZI'ed because of that then were are their wonderful allies coming to save him? Because hopefully you are not the only one smart enough to piece that revelation together. Clearly there is more to it.

[quote name='Keve69' timestamp='1294560443' post='2569556'] You mean your glad to air your little grudge in public again... This has zero relation to the issue at hand, glad you think I'm a friend to the people I play CN with though. [/quote] Correction. Those mistakes above are what lead to this. Ultimately it was your poor management, those things that I listed were just the basic components of it... I mean clearly if I was wrong you would not be up for ZI right now ... I have no grudge whatsoever, I am glad that justice was served. I am not saying that this is exactly how I would have taken care of things ,however it is a solution. I could care less how this ended to be honest... I wished you would had agreed to the agreement that Anson made and then none of this would of ever happened at all. I hate to see anyone get ZI'ed and would wish it on no one, but few choices were left. Secondly just a hint of advice what you are doing is still cowardly. Real leaders they take responsibility for their actions, they live with their choices they accept those choices and they become those choices... here you are still talking about how you got the mucky end of the stick.

[quote name='9dj12' timestamp='1294560341' post='2569553'] They were masked on UINE's forums, which are theirs, not anyone else's. So who is to say who is and isn't masked on their forums? [/quote] Well do not tell us that they have been expelled and are now rogues then, because clearly if they still obtain masks it is just more spin and lies... even more lies when you are stilling dishing them technology deals. I think that is the point we are all trying to get out there.

[quote name='The Archduke' timestamp='1294551427' post='2569350'] What holes? I would love to hear of them. Unless you're referring to the forum hack by Anson? I've seen proof... The MoFA of UINE has a real life, so doesn't bother to reply to most of these topics. There's not much point in me participating in them anyway... nobody ever takes much notice of what other people say. They just say what they like. [/quote] From what I can see everyone in UINE has soo much of a real life they might as well stop playing now...

[quote name='Keve69' timestamp='1294559076' post='2569525'] If you think this is a 'just' resolution to this issue then you might want to tell me what else you see in your protectors arse cuz your head is pretty far up there... [/quote] I'm only glad I got to play my part thats all. There is an entire laundry list of things that have played out here and hopefully you realize this and have the mentality to go above and beyond and learn from your mistakes that follow: 1. You are arrogant and overconfident. 2. You are a friend to your alliance and you are certainly no leader (far from it) 3. You keep people in office who are completely incompetent and you appoint your little buddies opposed to able bodied people. 4. You messed with the wrong group of people this time I think if you can learn from the above then perhaps you can be a better leader and UINE a better alliance. I have certainly made my mistakes in the past, and I have learned from them and I believe ultimately became a better person... thus is the way all experiences should be. If you still think your fantasy you call UINE is running perfectly and smoothly well... its time to wake up, I hope reality hits rather hard.

Well it seems like there is justice on the Planet Bob after all. I only wish it was big-joe right along with Keve69. Good decision on all parties involved. I am glad to see a true and just resolution to a problem that could have been ended swiftly a week ago.

[quote name='bigjoepryde' timestamp='1294532448' post='2569046'] erm rudolph was there in fact he was sitting talking to me you and anson about the whole situation and giving his two cents you really should re read your logs. hitsu your posts are just smelling of more and more fail in your attempts to rip UINE to shreads. Also you would rather the person who decided to declare war on AiD as MoF dealt with the situation. I would rather the MoD who said no dont do it dealt with the situation [/quote] Well here you go with more lies. RnR has all the logs, so you are making your self look like a bigger fool then you already are. Also I do not have to try and tear UINE apart you do that well enough. Not to mention you are constantly trying to put this on myself and Anson opposed to accepting responsibility to your on mistakes. This will be my last post in this thread, because it just really needs to end, whats done is done. You Fail.

[quote name='Rudolph' timestamp='1294531739' post='2569036'] I'm not a member of UINE. I'm one of their allies, unlike you who bailed when you didn't get what you wanted from UINE like a spoiled brat. Keve did what he could with the time he was available on IRC. The fact that Anson took it upon himself to deal with AiD when Joe told him not to and still he went PURPOSEFULLY to talk with AiD when he had no authority to do so. [/quote] Here you go again pretending like you were there. Well all I can say is that... the last thing UINE needed was big-joe dealing with it, perhaps you have not been reading. Secondly I did leave UINE and so did the rest of its active membership, because nobody with any ounce of actual commonsense would stick around in a fail alliance.

[quote name='TheListener' timestamp='1294530378' post='2569011'] As the Minister of Finance within IAA (Same Position Anson was as far as I'm aware) I may or may not hold the authority to make an agreement of such a level however I for one never speak for my alliance with out at least consulting one of the top 3 government members of IAA. If I do speak for the IAA without consulting I say something like, "I think that should be workable however I can't gaurantee anything because I'm not the one in charge, I don't have the final say." Anson did not have the final say on the matter. That is all. [/quote] Obviously he did't because Keve69 shot down his idea, even though it was a commonsense solution that would have nipped everything at the bud. Apparently his solution was what is going on right now... be difficult and make matters worse.

[quote name='Rudolph' timestamp='1294529645' post='2568997'] I certainly wonder who said that. Oh wait, I do know Anson, had no [u]authority[/u] within UINE to negotiate said deal with AiD nor did he had the right to say that UINE had no money to spend on reps. That authority was solely vested in either the Emperor of UINE or their Triums. The fact that you're [b]still[/b] going with that line is completely absurd. Just because a person is government, does not give said person full authority to negotiate on the behalf of the alliance. [/quote] Mhmmm. Well at the time Anson was the Minister of Finance, I was the Minister of Education... and you are... well just another member in UINE.. So tell me whos job was it to deal with this then.. Keve69 who had been inactive for the past week... which is rather routine now a days? Prior to that an agreement had already been made that Keve69 still did not like. So the commonsense thing CLEARLY would have been what Anson suggested which would have had everything paid and this whole ordeal done with... but see Keve69 did not go with that and decided to be his arrogant (my way or the high way I don't accept responsibility for anything... I am the LORD and membership of UINE) ways. ALSO may I also say that RnR has been more then patient and kind with UINE, had it been a few other alliances I have in mind well... UINE would be sitting on peace mode right now.

[quote name='bigjoepryde' timestamp='1294521018' post='2568829'] only a small proposion of that damage was inflicted by the rogues. they had a nation who had quit and had opened him self up for warring with another alliance. I beleive AiD can back me up on this. [/quote] Hmmm well what is the reason behind what I mentioned above how yet another so called "rogue" is being aided (last time I checked we don't legibly aid rogues). Also Keve69 can come into our IRC channel and leave several times and send people in to lurk, yet he cannot come on here and answer simple questions? How cowardly.

Well the only thing that troubles me is how come according to UINE they are rogues, yet we all know they have been masked up until last night. They are not going to be asked to leave the AA or at least that is what I was told by someone in UINE. Also now... if these people are rogues like UINE say .... well why is UINE still aiding them? http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz184/kadeichikawa/UINEreceivesaid.jpg http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz184/kadeichikawa/moreuineaid.jpg Aid is aid. People who are suppose to be ousted by UINE are still being treated like members and they are at WAR with RnR and Ehcelon.... do you get my point... and UINE is AIDING them.

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[quote name='bigjoepryde' timestamp='1294468959' post='2568359'] keve and only keve at the end of the day we are a small alliance but as with my server i am very security conscious about who ever has access to anything. we are a small alliance i dont have 10 people as group leaders. [/quote] basically 2.1 Million NS full of inactive ghosts.

[quote name='DemonSpawn' timestamp='1294468791' post='2568356'] Sounds like that's your problem, and no one else's. You mean to tell me, there is no one else capable in your entire Government structure, that can unmask 5 people? [/quote] There was. Myself and half of the active government members of UINE left the alliance and went elsewhere do to the idiocy common at UINE.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1294467628' post='2568312'] [color="#0000FF"]So, I take it UINE kept these members around with the intent of rebuilding them after they went rogue? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.[/color] [/quote] I have seen UINE reject members in the past from the AA so it would seem so, even though according to big-joe UINE suddenly no longer "ghost-busts" Also for those of you who just got in, Big-Joe the Minister of Defense came on our channel not too long ago and said he was going to roll us and did not care about RnR... that is why he is trembling to death about getting a ZI. yet he is still the acting Minister of Defense. lolz *facepalm*

[quote name='TheListener' timestamp='1294467283' post='2568303'] because Keve unlike you or me is involved in the private rooms, rather than make a mistake on the public scheme that can hurt him or his alliance he has chosen the smart move and lurked this thread while discussing the actual issue. [/quote] At the expense of the MoD big-joe who is apparently afraid of being Zi-ed. Mhmmmmm okay. The mistake was sending big-joe out here.