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  1. Schattenmann
    Good afternoon, I'm Schattenmann, your humble fact-checker for this mini-presentation of Os's World, your number one source for news from that land beyond the clouds, that happy land somewhere over the rainbow where the sky is green, the sun is purple, and trees grow down.

    Today, we visit that wonderful land again, beckoned by the claims of His Backwardness that:



    To do homage to the man, I say : :::::::chortle:::::: :

    Opposition is Action
    Let us first channel that biggest jerkwad of philosophy, the man who gave us pedantry, Socrates, and ask first: what is it to "oppose"? This is a word which implies action, oppose is a verb, it is not a passive state, but affirmative. We understand that to oppose something means to stand in its way. If a man opposes something, he acts to stop it. If a man is opposed to something, he moves to separate himself from it.
    We can greater understand this concept of opposition by considering its opposite, support. Support, too, is an action. Support enables things. A treaty is support, war is support, diplomatic pressure is support.
    Opposition is powerful. If rulers and alliances took stock of their ideals, and stood upon them, the world would shudder.

    Truth is Found in Action
    Now, let us examine OsRavan's record of opposition to reparations, eternal wars, etc. For it is in a man's action that we find the truth.In his perverted part in a perverted play, he directed the forces of ODN in enforcement of peace terms in the DH-NPO War which included $2.427 Billion in reparations ($1B from Legion alone), and a month long extended war against the top tier of Pacifica. In the Dave War, ODN itself demanded an extended war of top-tier MCXA nations. In the TOP-C&G War, ODN stood shoulder-to-shoulder with its allies and coalition in demands for reps totaling over $1 Billion and tens-of-thousands of tech (most of it blood money to GOONS), and 40,000 tech from Legion.

    It is most often the case that when we discuss the historical sins of an alliance, we must be careful to remember that their sins have been across multiple administrations, and that distance makes for penance.
    Not so with ODN and OsRavan.
    OsRavan himself led the Network in each of these wars and always unfalteringly waved the banner of his bloodthirsty allies.

    OsRavan Found False
    Os's World is a weird place, indeed. It is a world where a man finds it perfectly sane to decry every kind of injustice who has himself committed his personal influence, and the military might of his alliance to the extraction of outrageous reps; who has himself accepted reps; who has put the weight of his alliance behind the acts he himself decries over and over again, enthusiastically.

    Why must we continue to examine OsRavan?

     



    OsRavan breathes rarefied air as one of very few men whose person came to define an AA and in many ways an era. His person is political, to discuss the person of OsRavan is to discuss ODN. Where OsRavan lies, the truth must be brought forth.
    This is no petty personal squabble, but a question of the state of things. As long as twisted manipulators such as OsRavan are allowed to spew their backwards histories, alliances will continue to emulate them.

    History is the sum of actions of men, OsRavan's opposition could have meant an entirely different world, but despite his repetitive cries that his principles give no regard to politics, we see that he has no principles, and he perpetuated a world without principle.

    So, my dear reader, on this, the 1,752nd day since OsRavan forced reparations from Cult of Justitia, and the 1,751st day since he began denying it, I'm your host Schattenmann bidding you good day from all of us in Os's World.

    Os's World 1
    Os's World 2

    Source: A Valentine from TPF
  2. Schattenmann
    I'm looking for a drink
    In 2005, I was in Moscow, and we went to this restaurant called Myu Myu; it was like a Russian Golden Coral, buffet, big fiberglass cow on top of the roof.
    I accidentally picked up the translator's glass and drank his drink, and he gave me a weird look, like he was expecting something. I asked what it was and he said it was kvass and apologized. I said what for, it was really good, which amazed him.
    Now: The drink at Myu Myu was thick, pink-ish, kind of sweet, and a little malty.
    So, I convinced the translator to sneak off to the grocery store with me, and I bought 4 litres of kvass to bring home.
    I opened a bottle on the plane, and an attendant bumrushed me to tell me there was no alcohol allowed, I saw her nametag was Polish, so I said, it's just kvass, and her eyes got big as saucers and she said "oh, you're American? You LIKE kvass?" And I told her I did.
    Then I poured a cup, and it was brown, thin, and sour. And it was disgusting.
    Are any of you Russian and/or do any of you have any idea what I drank? I've wanted more for 10 years.
  3. Schattenmann
    This post is best experienced while listening to:
    Your summary gives a half-treatment to the issues.
    NPO didn't just "adopt" responsibility for the coalition, they were responsible for the war; they organized it for like 4 months prior. Then they did the exact opposite of take responsibility: They announced that they weren't anyone's boss. Then Brehon disappeared.
    NPO is not simply some passive object "example of the conflicts of interest." NPO actively schemed with its Umbrella-aligned allies before the war, made promises of a "handshake peace" made deals about who would be hit and who would not, and made promises about what coalition AAs would be allowed to do or not do. They didn't just have conflicts of interest, they created them and imposed them upon us.
    There is no subtle truth about the internal conflict of EQ, there is simply the truth: The divergent alliances were invited to a war and given the impression that it was the Big One we'd all been waiting for for 2 years, and that with NPO abdicating leadership we would be running the war by consensus and to its natural conclusion. But that was never true because, we found out, NPO had already submitted a script to NG and C&G for approval and we weren't to be told until it was time to pull the plug. Then Punxsutawney Brehon came out of his hole he didn't see his shadow, so it was time to end the war whether anyone else liked it or not, and as anyone with a brain might have imagined, we all became quite agitated.
    VE was on the verge of surrender after a long and retarded negotiation in which QueenHailee asked for input then went manic and disappeared when she received it, then--while preaching to all of us about our selfish idiocy over DH terms--NPO derailed the VE surrender in a weeklong battle over getting their name in the surrender-to list. Then NPO convened DH peace negotiations against the will of the vast majority of the coalition, thus precluding VE's surrender at all since they knew they could just hang out for whole-Umbrella peace. Thus we lost the crucial serious first surrender.
    NPO continued to fake us all out over our supposed voice in the coalition when Brehon opened a thread asking for our beginning point terms for each AA we were at war with in preparation for his peace summit which we told him not to have in the first place. I know, height of irony, but a nice gesture. Then he proceeded to ignore everything we said and present his own terms loosely based on what we had said, to which Umbrella, MK, and GOONS went batcrap while OsRavan (or somebody) reminded Brehon of his "handshake peace" promise. The negotiations were too early for DH's damages to have warranted any serious consideration of peace terms, and Brehon's version of what we told him was too extreme; therefore, they blew us off, and left with the impression that we were ready for peace when we were not.
    At this point, NPO should have let the war continue, but they were Hell-bent on the white peace and they were Hell-bent on it now. Brehon, Farrin, and Letum went on an internal campaign of berating the coalition for daring to ask for peace terms; this created massive arguments between NPO and AAs which wanted to continue the war or wanted peace terms, and between AAs who wanted terms and AAs who wanted to cut-and-run. NPO began trying to assert the responsibility/control they had refused at the outset; this set the dickheads on the C&G front on a path of obstinance for obstinance's sake.
    Regardless of his clear inability to control anything or speak with a mandate on behalf of the coalition, Brehon again opened peace talks, and again mutated what the coalition wanted--a longer war with DH--into what he thought would work for us and within the promises he made pre-war--a negotiated extended war against Umb only. Sure, that worked very well for NPO with its inactive upper tier and $%&@ed up FA.
    In the midst of our objections Brehon lost his blob, announced he was done negotiating, then went to NobodyExpects' Parlor of Love for a massage, and on NE's consult alone took the damn Frankenstein's Peace Monster to DH anyway.
    At this point he turned around and told us that NPO, AI, and IRON pre-determined everything about the war and how it would end, and that we could sign the treaty or get bent.
    The damage was done. The strife opened up by all this scheming and bullying had turned EQ into a roiling basketcase which signed the peace to get away from NPO and from each other. As ChairmanHal says, "there is plenty to go around" but with this exception: only that some of us could have handled ourselves better in dealing with NPO's crap.
    And you know the shame of it all? What was it for? NPO got nothing. All those gymnastics to keep DuckRoll and win over C&G. I wish I got a dollar for every time NPO told us we had to go easy on DH because C&G was cancelling on them after fulfilling their debts this one last time. But you lost it all. Your scheming split arguably your best ally Anarchy Inc. in two and destroyed it, the scheming alienated IRON losing DR for you. And C&G, if the promises were made at all, reneged on them. Everyone in EQ was royally pissed or simply disillusioned. You got nothing out of all that.
    Source: NPO Declaration of War and Sing-Along War Report
  4. Schattenmann
    Be warned: The links in this blog discuss nudity and have photos of a man in his underwear.
    So, today I accidentally went into battle against a famous internet idiot when I didn't realize he was actually Facebook friends with the person whose status I was commenting on.
    In case you're unfamiliar, Brian Zulberti emailed the entire Delaware Bar Association with a cocky, stupid email looking for a job. Attached to the email was a photo of himself showing off his arm muscles.
    Delaware lawyers of course Googled him, and were met with nude and semi-nude photos that he had carelessly uploaded to social media websites. By this point, he was a laughing stock of Delaware, which a person could live down since who even knows where Delaware is, but then the internet discovered him and this idiot is forever unemployable regardless of how creepily smooth his armpits are or how big his arm muscles are.
    Still unemployed (or self-employed, same difference) now he's running a website to advocate for employees who get fired over their own social media faux pas. What's the clincher? Fully nude photos of himself. How is he advertising his new initiative? e-mailing the entire Delaware Bar Association, again.
    So, anyway, for your enjoyment: Schattenmann clashes with an honest-to-God internet phenomenon (I'm in blue).

    Full disclosure: I'm 5'11" and weigh 185. I do not work at Pizza Hut And if I had realized that Zulberti was going to see my comment, I probably wouldn't have made fun of his womanish armpits.
  5. Schattenmann
    The Schattenmann Fanclub's Founder/President Prototyoe Ruler has been away for several years, and I'm kind of shy, so the club hasn't been doing much. However, I think it is important to recognize a dedicated fan who has, for the past 2 years, made his devotion to me known more conspicuously than any other fawning fan on the planet.
    I speak, of course, of none other than Crymson. Through his years of unwavering dedication to steering every conversation towards Schattenmann rather than the topic at hand, Crymson has earned the title SchattenFan of the Year.
    As a reward, he gets this special blog wherein I, Schattenmann, the object of his devotion, acknowledge him; a pair of my dirty underwear which has been chemically treated to retain my scent for at least 2 years under regular sniffing conditions; and I have asked the courts to suspend the restraining order for a period of 3 days.
    Congratulations, Crymson!


    "Doitzel was (like you) an inveterate attention whore, obsessed with obtaining and maintaining significance. And outside of a very small group, nobody liked Zhadum, not even his peers in NPO. "
    3166993[/snapback] September 09, 2013
    "Of course, we all know regardless that everything you do follows your compulsive need for attention."
    3079384[/snapback] January 18, 2013
    "Oh, it's Schattenman's "Attention at any cost!" routine again. Yawn. You're a fairly intelligent guy, Schatt, and implying that I flushed TOP down the toilet by participating in a highly risky preempt against an entire bloc and then following that two lines later with the implication that I'm a stat collector was not at all well thought-out. I can thus only assume that it was motivated by your constant and desperate need to always get a contrary word in."
    2960340[/snapback] April 28, 2012

    "Schattenman's struggle for attention and recognition continues."
    3021737[/snapback] August 31, 2012
    "Congratulations, Schattenman, on three years of taking yourself too seriously and seeking attention at every turn."
    2975301[/snapback] May 31, 2012
    "Hey, look, it's Schattenmann taking the contrary viewpoint in order to garner attention. How very new. Wait, is it 2008?"
    2908069[/snapback] January 27, 2012
    "Nay, you like the sound of your own voice more, and attention the most, and this more or less defines your existence in Cybernations."
    2894153[/snapback] January 26, 2012
    "So, we've got Doitzel and Schattenman, two people who prioritize the attainment of attention above all else, bleating about this affair... and some of you are actually allowing them to get you riled up?"
    2901876[/snapback] January 17, 2012
    "Waving your arms for attention apparently takes higher priority for you than does checking facts before opening your mouth. We were unhappy with that action of the NPO's; we did not participate."
    2859863[/snapback] December 02, 2011
    "Translation: 'I like those of you who engage me in my very transparent attempts to attract attention to myself. I dislike those of you who call me out for my very transparent attempts to attract attention to myself.'"
    2767043[/snapback] July 29, 2011
    "It appears you really like the sound of your own e-voice. That's about the best reason I can muster up to explain the sizable puddle of drivel you've just expelled. It also seems you've quite a fixation on me. Like I said, have fun!"
    2766816[/snapback] July 29, 2011
    "Good old Schattenman... anything to be noticed. Whether it takes flip-flopping, screaming about subjective morality or making up charges that hardly carry any sense at all, we can count to make every effort to attract attention to yourself."
    2766470[/snapback] July 28, 2011
    "You sure do keep strong vendettas against those of us willing to call you out for the attention addict you are."
    2753380[/snapback] July 09, 2011
    "You go ahead and think whatever makes you feel more important. Feeling important was, after all, the purpose of Vox for you and Doitzel."
    2716493[/snapback] May 22, 2011
  6. Schattenmann
    First off, I need to apologize to you all for missing several weeks of radio without any notice. But, let's make it formal: This Week in CN is on hiatus for the time-being. Classes are starting, I've got a lot of work to do within CoJ, and frankly doing the show every week was getting tedious. So, we're between seasons.
    Once things settle down a bit, we'll be back.
  7. Schattenmann
    The Stage
    Yesterday, the world witnessed a cancellation years in the making: The withdrawal of the Viridian Entente from the 2-member Balkan Entente bloc.
    The Balkan Entente was signed in 2008; it's constituent AAs being Argonaut, VE, and GOD. Argo was a smallish Green alliance with a really complicated and silly government structure, which later merged into VE leaving GOD and VE the only parties to the treaty.
    For whatever reason--disbandment denial, bad breath, dumb leaders--VE was never welcome among GOD's other bloc, SuperFriends, so the perpetual bond of the Balkan Entente served VE well as an avenue to a real bloc. In the period immediately post-Pax Pacifica (while SuperFriends and C&G pinched their noses and locked lips long enough to make sure NPO was dead-dead) the Balkan Entente continued to be a boon to both VE and GOD, and VE used the period to begin exploring options to create its own power base. In October 2010, VE's efforts paid off with Pandora's Box, a bloc comprised of itself, Fok, iFok, Poison Clan, Umbrella, and GOONS.
    Unfortunately for VE, just over 2 weeks after the formation of PB, GOONS and Umbrella entered into the Doom House bloc with MK. With the C&G-SuperFriends charade finally ending, VE was once again left in the lurch; rather than captaining their third-rail bloc PB, their blocmates pulled the infant bloc toward DH and C&G. VE was left straddling two irreconcilable power spheres.
    The Problem
    Pulled in two directions, VE sought to keep the peace. Only a very few know what must have gone on in the back rooms of DH, PB, SF, and C&G as their post-Karma nose-pinching quickly unraveled. In the end, VE was unable to stop the war that first DH and their Mjolnir allies and then DH and their Pacifican allies brought to SF in pursuit of GOD.
    Regardless of whether GOD will come to terms with it, rather than defending their ally, VE was left playing conductor to the symphony of war in the first instance, and then a half-hearted defense in the second.
    For over a year, the Balkan Entente was more than broken. Yet it remained. No longer an alliance between two alliances, now a sinister, mocking reminder of its failure. A sentimental relic.
    For too long, the world's alliances have united almost universally behind the juvenile foreign policy most succinctly stated "friends over infra." In practice, this philosophy is more correctly "friends over infra, but not politics." And that is the entire problem with this sandbox mentality: Alliances are political entities, treaties are political unions, war is political. Any alliance--witness: even the VE--which pursues a foreign policy tainted by unions based or maintained solely upon friendship is doomed always to be leaving a friend out in the cold when the clouds of war gather.
    The Solution
    Alliances must learn to embrace their true nature as political entities. Alliance leaders must learn restraint in which friends should be just that, and which friends also have the political continuity to also be allies. Not every friend can be an ally.
    The result of this is laid out in part in my last blog "Irreparable Damage" so titled due to OsRavan's hyperbolic claim that this cornerstone of Justitian philosophy is doing irreparable damage to Digiterra:
    While OsRavan's claim was silly in context, it is true. And it is not until alliances begin to adopt it that the global stagnation created by "friends over infra" will end.
    This week, the Viridian Entente has finally come to that realization, has grown the backbone to act upon it, and has faced the hard reality of life in the political arena. For its step into the future--however late--VE deserves praise. I praise VE for its decision. And I call upon all the world to look to VE's example. We can break the logjam if we are all brave.
  8. Schattenmann
    Ok, so, as is often the case, a discussion about politics turned into a discussion about Schattenmann; it's a cross I bear for celebrity But I find politics more interesting than Schattenmann, and I don't like to de-rail, so, ta-da!: blog.
    I just want to stop right here with the "rage" thing. I get this a lot, AirMe and some other folks in a ~very exclusive~ IRC channel from time-to-time give me a ribbing over my being angry, and we all have a laugh about it.
    Let me assure you, I'm "animated" and "passionate," not "angry." Apparently I'm not good at not sounding angry, so I'll just say that you can tell the difference by whether or not I start calling people mean names, like the other day when I called New Frontier an "ignorant piss" (which I regret now, but oh well).
    Other than that, "u mad" by any other means smells as funky. Whether or not I'm "raging" has no bearing on any argument at hand, and pointing it out to try to undermine the content of what I'm saying (or anyone else, really) is silly, in my opinion. Some of my best posts are angry posts And if you really want to see angry, you should go around and ask folks for some of my embassy posts or private messages.
    I'm trying to cut down on how many quote blocks I have so that this is more readable, I think this section is a complete set of ideas that I'll respond to at once.
    The idea that people who aren't directly involved in one situation or another have no stake in that situation and/or have no business talking about it is simply wrong. This is a game (in the IC sense) of global politics, and we all live on this globe; there are very few things that don't mater to everyone; this is all the more true in matters of war.
    In this specific situation, the issue is that The International is deliberately ignoring a treaty obligation, and they are now facing a public and private backlash over it. Their highest gov have already publicly admitted to this fact, so while OsRavan may choose to argue it (he may not), I will not reply on that point again. It is a fact, it is confirmed by The International, there is no argument to be had.
    You are annoyed that me and ChairmanHal have vocally taken this issue up, along with others. Fine. You think that while we might have the right to do so, we have no business doing so. Wrong. This manoeuvre does in fact directly involve Hal's alliance Valhalla, and it does in fact effect all of us as noted above. Global war effects everyone, and the way that C&G conducts itself concerns everyone.
    Ignore the OWF at your own peril. I happen to know personally that writing it off is certainly your prerogative, but it's just not smart. Alliances are made up of people, and those peoples' opinions effect alliances in one way or another, sooner or later.
    Irreparable damage? Yeesh! Sounds bad! Here we go, Schattenboogeymann. At once irrelevant and destroying the world; my own irrelevant power never ceases to amaze me.
    First, let's make sure you (and everyone else out there in TV Land) even know what my world view is.
    CoJ is a direct result of the Vox Populi Resistance Movement, a quasi-terroristic campaign waged by Vox Populi against The Continuum and its power superstructure with the aim of increasing both individual freedom (for example for individuals to participate in OWF discussions without fear of endangering their alliance or nation) and inter-alliance freedom (that is, a world with as many power structures as naturally occur, with distinct interests and the freedom [through a more fractured treat web] to pursue them, win, lose, or draw). The charge of Vox Populi's last Vox Dei, Doitzel, as delivered upon the suspension (not disbandment) of Vox Populi operations here (click) is central to Cult of Justitia's mission. As the last remaining post-Vox AA (TJO and TLC having disbanded), CoJ takes this charge all the more seriously.
    CoJ seeks to fulfill its mission by first embodying those ideals itself. Foremost in that is our prohibition of compulsive ("M") treaties (which reduce freedom of action and thought). Also to that end are our position that any war is fair game where our interests can be advanced (thus entry in defense of NPO) with or without treaty obligations; vocal and persistent advocacy of our ideals on the OWF; and advocacy of our ideals in foreign embassies.
    Far, far to the contrary of your position that CoJ's philosophy is destroying the world is first this: CoJ's philosophy is a fringe philosophy, it has no bearing whatever on global affairs. In the three years since CoJ's founding, the world has in fact started at a point closest to CoJ's ideals, and rapidly moved further and further away from them back to a Pax Pacifica mode of doing things: Massive blocs tied together via masses of treaties; the antithesis of Justitian thought. It is impossible that CoJ's philosophy is destroying the world, because CoJ and only an extremely few other alliances practice it, and none to any degree that has caused an effect on global politics.
    The result of Justitian ideology is a world where alliances and blocs form distinct identities. They have distinct, intrinsic ideologies, beliefs, and values, and from that seed of identity they grow natural allegiance to some alliances, and natural animosity toward others. They ally themselves based on political relationships that grow out of identity-based amity. These natural allies have a vested interest in the success and defense of each other, and will defend each other with conviction and dedication. Unencumbered by no (or few) illogical, friendship-only, or convenience-based treaties, these alliances or blocs are free to go to war when war is called for, or free not to go to war when war is not called for.
    This is not, as you touched on, a LSF-International thing. Int and LSF are just the current fill-ins for the ever-present variable. In that past I've made the same stand on the Europa-Invicta treaty, or the Mjolnir-DH/PB union, etc etc. Like you, too many people get caught up in who (Schattenmann) is posting, and not what I am saying. I do not care that The Interational is ignoring its treaty because of its illogical, entangled foreign policy, I care that any alliance is doing that or in that situation.
    As to your issues with the way I run an alliance or the morality of what we do, that's vague, I can only guess at what you mean.
    If you are saying that CoJ is immoral for spying on ODN, get real. Your own allies spy on people (they run CNtel), your own allies have been saying for the past year that more alliances should spy on other alliances.
    If you are saying that CoJ is immoral because we "threatened" The Flood Empire, we've been over that. ODN was at war with CoJ, TFE was sending tech to ODN, CoJ told TFE that aiding an alliance at war is an act of war, and asked them to stop or possibly face the reality of their transgression. Telling people the facts of life on Digiterra is not immoral.
    If you're saying that CoJ is immoral because we spammed your ODN Applicant AA and informed them that ODN was at war and they should pick a different alliance to join or face war immediately upon acceptance into ODN, again, these were statements of fact.
    In all three cases--which upset ODN to no end during our war--my response remains simple and the same that it was since day 1: ODN declared war on CoJ, an organization of 20 nations already at war with GOONS, MK, and Umbrella, in "defense" of MK despite the fact that MK was attacking CoJ and CoJ was not attacking MK. That is not defense, and you worded it that way to avoid a Senate vote on declaring war, or you're just dumb and you don't know the difference between defense and mutual aggression--you cannot defend MK from us if we're not attacking them or planning on attacking them, or you're not dumb, but you were being cute. It doesn't matter which in the end.
    Faced with your DoW which you knew we could not physically respond to (and you declared war I'm sure feeling that you would not have to deal with CoJ), CoJ responded as we could. War is war, my friend, and if you don't want to go to war with Cult of Justitia, then do not declare war on Cult of Justitia. Simple as that. And if you do declare war on Cult of Justitia, know this: CoJ will execute any war by any means necessary, excluding nothing except OOC tactics.
    If that's not what you were talking about when you say we're immoral, I don't know what you mean.
    As for how I run CoJ, if you're talking about my personal style of leadership, that's just, like, your opinion, man. If you're talking about our philosophies, I've covered that.
    The point of the OWF is to talk about things, to make arguments and convince people. In line with earlier comments, if you don't want to participate, by all means stay home.
    Argument is key to politics, and it is not immoral.
    Just as they did in the Pax Pacifica, alliances align themselves to MK's agenda of their own free will; in that sense, MK does not "control" or "rule" anyone any more than NPO did. But the fact of the matter is that regardless of why, MK is steering the boat. I do not believe I have ever stated or implied that MK exercises direct control over anyone, and I'm saying now that they don't have direct control or perhaps even direct involvement in everything that pops up. It is simple fact that MK's victory in Karma, winning personality, and ability to deliver victory (via its network of treaties) mean that MK is the center of the universe. This, uh, "self-leashing" (if you will) is precisely why you will find that I talk about the dogs more than I talk about MK--the dogs are the problem. I took the same position and tack during the Pax Pacifica.
    I do not need to force the world into a dualistic frame, it has fashioned its own dualistic frame. Multiple blocs does not equate to multiple poles; in fact, "Supergrievances" and then DH/PB very deftly avoided the creation of a Continuum-like all-unifying bloc precisely because they knew that while they stayed unified via individual treaties people could say "oh, see, lots of blocs, ergo, lots of poles" but the very second any very large bloc appeared, it would've immediately stirred up a real storm (and of course, yes, they never could quite get over their paranoia toward each other, anyway). At this very moment, this self-leashing is happening as The International "dishonors" (their word) a treaty and lets an ally bur rather than risk breaking the superstructure that has MK at its center (whether MK put itself there or whether MK was put there by all the dogs around it). Along the same lines, Duckroll has, over the years, ignored CB after CB and made compromise after compromise for the same cause. BFF, Checkmate, Stickmen, etc etc--all the same.

    So, whew. As many people have told me lately, it's been a long time since there was a good ole fashioned Schattenmann wall of text; I hope this satisfies and that I've made my points without too much rage. I get frustrated and I argue my beliefs because I want what everyone says they want: A more dynamic, faster-paced, genuine, fun Digiterra. The difference is, I will put my butt on the line out here on the fringe to enact it, and I have a plan that we don't already know is broken, unlike this rehash of the Pax Pacifica (albeit with less pomp and legalism).
    Source: A Note of Concern and Assistance
  9. Schattenmann
    This Week in CyberNations is happy to announce that AirMe, Triumvir of TLR, will join us live this Thursday @ 9 PM Eastern/8 PM Server. Bloodfury will also join us per usual, and I hope to have some other rotating guests.
    Post your questions for AirMe here in this blog, and we'll discuss them during the show. The link to the stream is in the channel topic of #CNIB on Coldfront, or at http://www.cnib-group.com
    There is a slight possibility that AirMe will be indisposed due to houseguests, so in order to prevent this, I am offering 100 tech to anyone that kidnaps the houseguests and returns them unharmed at 12 AM Friday.
  10. Schattenmann
    So, has anyone ever registered and earned their Master of Military Arts from Norwich University? Their ads have been on the top of the OWF for a few years and I always wondered about it.
  11. Schattenmann
    In case you have not noticed, there is a new CN radio network, CyberNations International Broadcasting. Bloodfury and bros have put in a huge amount of work to put up the infrastructure, and several DJs have begun populating the network. After much pushing and pulling, Bloodfury got me to sign on to a bi-weekly show Thursdays at 9 PM EST (8 PM server).
    This week in CN will be a political talkshow dedicated to current events and interviews with headline-makers. Shows will be archived and re-played for those who couldn't tune in for the live broadcast.
    Our first show saw Pacifican Emperor and Bootleg Radio host Brehon as the guest for the hour. It will air again on Monday the 19th at 8 PM EST (7 PM server). Future re-runs might not be in that timeframe depending on how the DJ schedule pans out (right now that time slot is not occupied). After each replay, I'll post a link to a permanent stream.
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  12. Schattenmann
    We both knew better. I have rearranged your post to organize it by topic.
    You made some rather dashing personal attacks, but you can't demonstrate them and they don't merit response. But this is the part of your post that I most wanted to address.
    I myself am always amused by the people who level attacks that boil down to Schattenmann is a lunatic has-been who is sad, and Cult of Justitia is a bunch of idiots that Schattenmann has hoodwinked into worshiping him. The insult is oxymoronic to begin with, but it is simply put laughable.
    To demonstrate once and for all (I say "once and for all" but we know some retard will repeat these insults again, probably while I'm still typing, but let's hope!) the fallacy of this idiotic argument, I have made a list of everyone who has been a member of CoJ (applicants who were rejected are not included) and what their backgrounds were:
    Valerius (PresidentKent) NADC: Senator; GATO: Congressman, MoFA
    Frederick Bulshara
    Sarah Tintagyl NSO: Minister of Propaganda; Noted CNRPer
    Freelance____r The Coven
    Cloudberry
    zfeint
    DJTJ7 SUN: MoFA; IDC: MoFA
    Angela Spencer
    Biff Webster GPA: President, Minister of Membership Compliance; Red Dawn: Red Senator
    Limurach
    sirdeclan NPO: Tech Corps manager; ACID: Triumvirate
    katskip
    Hyperbad GPA: Director of Communications
    Vic Boss
    Jonathan Brookbank GGA: Triumvirate; Vox Populi: Founder (JB did a bunch of other stuff, but he didn't list it in his application)
    zarophel (Francesca) MCXA: MoFA; Vox Populi: MCXA sleeper
    Thistledown
    Jack The Ripper
    Vince Sixx
    Sitethief Fok: Vice President, MoFA; TOP: Knight Hospitaler, Heptagonist
    Subtleknifewielder Second most posts on the OWF
    acheron92
    Zoot Zoot
    ImperatorAzenquor TAB: High Magistrate
    Gran TTK: Elder Council
    JEDCJT
    Paradise
    Caprios
    Snerval
    jsnjcjrbbt
    Lynneth
    ITDA (Il Terra Di Agea)
    IAmSancho
    Don Chele GPA: Director of Communications, MoFA
    Saarkin
    BaronOfBeef GPA: President, Minister of Membership Compliance
    Zarfef NSO: Marauder of War
    Generalissimo ODN: Second Secretary General of the ODN
    Markus Wilding
    Lord Rav Greenland Republic: Triumvirate; GPA: MoFA, Dir of the Academy
    Earogema (MegaAros) \m/: MoFA, Minister of Finance; TORN: Minister of Recruitment; Vox Populi: Senator, Founder
    daggarz Nemesis: Triumvirate; Elysium: Chief Ambassador; TPF: MoC; Rapture: MoD; IPA: Senator
    that-one-place ARES: DoD; Nemesis: Triumvirate
    Yawoo ODN: Senates 13, 14, & 16, Secy State, MoD; MOON: Secy State, Emperor; Nemesis: Triumvirate, MoIA
    Hellenica Founder of CNtel (expelled)
    Duckz NPO: -classified-; Carpe Diem: Minister of Finance; The Lost World: Minister of Finance
    Shatner
    We Are Not Alone
    Crazy Crazy Honour: MoFA; Nemesis: DMoFA, DMoIA
    Chancellor Patrick
    Biohazard DefCon: MoFA; Gondor: DMoFA
    Titan
    rishnokof RoK: Triumvirate
    Ratio
    Flyingscotsman Browncoats 1: MoFA; HPS: Founder; IAA: MoD
    KingEsus
    Sentinal
    Stonewall Jaxon NADC: Senator; ACV: MoIA; MHA: DMoFA; Vox Populi: -classified-;
    Lola Jones
    hozeomaru
    Sargun TAB: MoFA; Pendulum: Consul, Regent; PIMP: King; NSO: Marauder of War, Marauder of Economics
    Comrade Korey Purge: Triumvirate
    Sun WuKong GPA: President, Vice President, Dir of Recruitment; Jade Confederacy: Founder; Old Guard: Triumvirate, Delegate to Citadel, Delegate to Continuum; House Atreides: Dir of Recruiting; GOP: Triumvirate; TOOL: Councillor; Bushido: Daimyo
    Kahn (Durim) SSX: Founder; Browncoats: Home Minister; IAA: Academy Headmaster
    Awesome Dog GPA: MoD, Vice President
    bigdaddychacha ODN: Senate 36, Dep Secy State
    zzzptm ACDC: MoFA, Triumvirate; BDC: President, Nueva Vida: Lord of the Interior, Lord of History; Dark Templar: MoFA
    For brevity's sake, this list does not include the 31 nations who joined CoJ when Dark Nations Association merged with us, but they include the government and founders of LEN, Silence, and others.
    So, when I read some gadfly like MrWuss say that CoJ is nothing more than me being "closely followed by a band of raving morons who worship the words that spill from your twisted, self-centric mind" I am insulted not personally, but on behalf of these people. Sun WuKong, Tri of Old Guard, Delegate to Citadel and Continuum worships me? Ohhhhhh dear. Three Presidents of GPA raving morons? NSO Marauders? TOOL Councillors? Senators and Congressmen of ODN, GATO, NADC, & NAAC? The Vice President of Fok?
    My dear Mr Wuss, I dare say that when you insult Cult of Justitia, you insult everyone.
    Cult of Justitia is not about me; it's about Justitian ideals. Look at the roster: TPF, NPO, GATO, ODN, NSO, Browncoats 1, Old Guard, RoK, Fok: all enemies of Schattenmann. These are the rulers that for 5 years have ground my nation to dust, and derided me in their time as you do now. They do not worship Schattenmann, how could they? They know his every fault, his every failing.
    The Cult of Justitia--Justitia's Cult, not mine--has attracted these many men of many accomplishments by its ideals and its commitment to its ideals. But they never boast (I daresay I will get a fair scolding for boasting on their behalf) because when they enter the Temple of Justice they do so having first read and acknowledged that "This is the altar upon which you place your nation.
    In the state of nature, a nation is the property only of its ruler; a ruler is accountable only to himself. As an unaligned ruler, you stand before this altar in the portico to the Temple of Justice as a wild animal.
    Before you may pass the threshold, you must outline your qualifications, and verbalize your intentions, but most importantly: acknowledge your new existence as part of a body greater than your own nation, signified by an oath to the Cult"
    CoJ was founded immediately upon the dissolution of Vox Populi--the point in my history at which I was more popular and more powerful than at any time before or since; therefore, the point in time at which your accusation might ring most true. And yet, out of the 40 or so Vox, only 1, just 1, came to CoJ. And for weeks we were only two. And then for months we were only 5. And for months more we were never more than 15. And so for over two years, Schattenmann the man has moved further and further from the glory days, and yet more and more men who have done greater things than I, men who've had more power than I, men who've ZI'ed me have joined Justitia's Cult. There is no Cult of Schattenmann, that time passed a long, long time ago. Justitia's Cult and Justitian ideals tower over Her Presbyter.
    I am humbled with every new application, and I am reminded that this is the Cult that Justitia built. Lonely? No, I am privileged to be in the company of some of Digiterra's greatest.
  13. Schattenmann
    I'm working on a thread in the vein of Hawk's unrealized project, so I invite you all to "ask me anything" over the next couple days. Questions that are chosen will be answered in the thread, not here.
    For reference, I've been around for ~5 years, been a member in GOONS; operative in Hidden GOONS while a member of RoFL, Purge, Browncoats, and TOP; a founding member of Vox Populi and later host of Vox's weekly news journal This Week in Pacifica; and then founded Cult of Justitia. http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Schattenmann
    Happy hunting.
  14. Schattenmann
    While kingzog's Zog Blog has been chronicling his frustrated (and -ing) efforts to create a new super-duper, lightening-fast, liquid-cooled, impossibly-small 1337 computer, here in Schloss Eggenberg I have just spent the last couple hours on this baby:

    For those of you who are less than 20 years old and not a hipster, that thing on the top is a record player. The black disc on top has grooves with bumps in them, the arm extended over it has a needle which translates the bumps into sound. Right now, it's playing a Queen album. The album's case aptly proclaims "No synthesizers!" on the back.
    Beneath it, a much newer tuner routes input from radio (signals that fly through the air), the record player, and the tape deck beneath it. The large wheel on the right of the black box controls the volume, you spin it left or right to increase or decrease the volume. Yes, if I want to turn it up, I have to physically walk to the machine. If I get back to my seat and it's too loud, I will walk back to the setup and turn it the other way again. The vibrations from my footsteps there and back will cause slight distortions in the signal the record player send to the tuner as the needle is effected by them.

    Okay, let me stop being a smug ass now. I just really love this and wanted to show you guys.
    The best is yet to come, though!

    Why, yes, that is a reel-to-reel player! I haven't got space for it where everything is, but I can't wait to get it set up, too. I have a BeeGees tape that I want to listen to on it, lol.
    Look at its interface!

    Beautiful.
    Anyone else out there still regularly use a record player or reel-to-reel?
  15. Schattenmann
    Source: Progression of Terms
    I love primary documents.
    Whether you were ~already~ going to make a separate peace with Avalon before you decided nukes in a war you declared were escalation, you threatened to derail a month's worth of peace negotiations when Avalon fought back against your giggling, bandwagoning tails.
    [20:18:15] <Impero[VE]> hey you around by any chance?
    [20:24:29] <xoin> I am
    [20:25:15] <Impero[VE]> wonderful
    [20:25:21] <Impero[VE]> are you avalon gov by any chance?
    [20:25:30] <xoin> that to
    [20:25:48] <xoin> Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs
    [20:25:48] <Impero[VE]> great
    [20:26:24] <Impero[VE]> just wanted to let you guys know that we will not be partaking in the agreement you worked out with MK et all
    [20:26:46] <Impero[VE]> and will be working out a seperate peace with you guys ourselves
    [20:27:05] <xoin> alright
    [20:28:09] <xoin> will throw that into the group
    [20:29:26] <xoin> anything else I could help you with?
    [20:29:32] <Impero[VE]> im not sure why you guys thought it was a good idea, once the agreement to 21 days then white peace was in place with MK, to come out of pm for the first time all war and hit a bunch of our nations who have been rebuilding :x
    [20:30:03] <Impero[VE]> to be honest i expected better since warriorconcept thinks so highly of you all
    [20:30:21] <Impero[VE]> but yea, ill get in touch with you all once we figure out what we are looking for
    [20:30:55] <xoin> sure
    [23:42:29] <Goldie[VE]> are you around?
    [23:42:38] <xoin> yes
    [23:43:44] <Goldie[VE]> ok, i believe a mutual white peace can be reached before we escalate this even further. with the agreement nearly in place between DH and NPO our front becomes unnecessary
    [23:43:59] <Goldie[VE]> i would of course need the approval of impero, lord of VE before we can officially agree on anything
    [23:44:32] <Goldie[VE]> but i think it would be a good idea, if you are agreeable to such a proposition, that we cease fire between each other and allow the process of peace to commence
    [23:44:42] <xoin> would recommend to talk to our MoFA about that http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=173199
    [23:45:33] <Goldie[VE]> does he come on IRC?
    [23:45:44] <xoin> rarely
    [23:47:11] <Goldie[VE]> can you get a hold of him? i dont believe we can go ahead with a cease fire, and any possibility of a white peace will most likely end if you escalate this front further than was done last night, by firing nukes after update tonight
    [23:47:46] <xoin> will see if I can contact him
    [23:47:47] <Goldie[VE]> so time is therefore somewhat of the essence
    [23:47:55] <Goldie[VE]> if he can come on irc it would be best
    [23:48:23] <Goldie[VE]> in light of that, if you can communicate this offer to him, and have him then contact his members and tell them to stand down it would be the way to contain this
    [23:48:28] <Goldie[VE]> and i can do the same with our members
    [23:49:06] <Goldie[VE]> if you can just tell the nations not to fire their nukes or do other attacks until VE has a chance to talk to your MoFA
    [23:49:11] <Goldie[VE]> it would help the process
    [23:49:20] <Goldie[VE]> and i can do the same with VE's engaged nations
    [23:49:56] <xoin> will try to drag him to IRC ASAP
    [23:49:59] <Goldie[VE]> the wars that were declared last night go nuclear tonight after update, and i believe once those nukes get fired that it will singify the end of our willing to grant a white peace
    [23:50:51] <Goldie[VE]> to confirm, this is your nation, right? http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=175163
    [23:50:55] <Goldie[VE]> in case i cant find you on irc
    [23:51:13] <xoin> yes thats mine
    [00:31:03] <Goldie[VE]> any luck?
    [00:31:32] <xoin> nope so lets hope he checks his email today
    [00:31:42] <xoin> pretty sure he will
    [00:31:59] <Goldie[VE]> for the sake of making this easy, can you have your nations engaged with us not launch their nukes tonight
    [00:32:02] <Goldie[VE]> and we can do the same
    [00:32:10] <Goldie[VE]> if we cant find an agreement, they can fire them tomorrow
    [00:32:21] <Goldie[VE]> but in good faith, lets order a limited cease fire
    [00:33:34] <xoin> would love to do it but I'm not allowed to
    [00:34:22] <Goldie[VE]> well im going out in about 30 mins, and i dont know if impero will be around, so i dont getthe message out before then, its not going to happen
    [00:34:47] <Goldie[VE]> and if our guys get nuked tonight we're not going to exit the war with a white peace agreement
    [00:35:08] <Goldie[VE]> the possibility of reps, and the necessity for something more tangible than a simple white peace appears
    [00:46:25] <Goldie[VE]> i have told our guys to hold off and wait for our word, i suggest you do the same so that we can avoid weeks, maybe months of war and potentially messy negotiations after
  16. Schattenmann
    Dear everyone,
    Please look up the word sovereignty in a dictionary before attempting to talk to me about sovereignty.
    That is all.
    Thank you.
    PS. If you feel OWF discussion about politics is interfering with your ability to control your own alliance, then you have bigger problems than the OWF.
  17. Schattenmann
    OsRavan has suddenly and inexplicably started claiming that it is CoJ which has rejected peace, not ODN who has refused it, in flat contradiction to all reality. Because some people are not as smart as others, rather than depend on everyone to understand that Os just now started making this claim after taking a public punch on the nose and it's fishy, I will provide here for you all the exact terms which OsRavan proposed himself, and which CoJ accepted.
    <Schattenmann> You rang
    <OsRavan[ODN]> mmmm?
    <Schattenmann> <TCK> you need to talk to odn as well
    <Schattenmann> <TCK> they want a lulz term
    <Schattenmann> <Schattenmann> About what?
    <Schattenmann> <Schattenmann> Oh
    <OsRavan[ODN]> ohh yes i had pointed out to tck that coj (and legion though thats neither here nor there) hadnt ironed out their terms with odn yet
    <OsRavan[ODN]> in particular the lulz term
    <Schattenmann> We will be happy to meet ODN in the middle as was done here: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=55878
    <Schattenmann> 4. Sunstar shall issue a statement in reply to this post. The nature of that statement shall be a compliment to Schattenman on his prowess as a news reporter and the elegance of his bow tie. The statement must include the following words: muscular, charming, monochromatic, ointment, and platypus.
    <Schattenmann> 5. Schattenman must also issue a similar statement. This statement shall compliment Sunstar on his superior warring abilities and the quality of his fusion energy production. It must include the words: navel, porcupine, and quartzy.
    <OsRavan[ODN]> bassicaly what im looking for is surrender, no re-entry if that is relavent, and some lulz term im happy to compromise on what. something orangey though. a haiku, a review. whatever
    <OsRavan[ODN]> hmmm no im not good with that. by returning the favor it makes it seem like a pure white peace. im not trying to make you slave at this. ;:shrugs;: it can be as simple as a haiku
    <OsRavan[ODN]> i suppose it doesnt have to be written either if you can think of a suitable alternative
    <OsRavan[ODN]> assuming writing is the issue
    <Schattenmann> And why shouldn't it be a white peace?
    <OsRavan[ODN]> because as far as im concerned we won. if you dont feel we have won then clearly, from our perspective, we have more warring still to do
    <OsRavan[ODN]> im not looking to rape you with terms. As I think should be clear
    <OsRavan[ODN]> we are not fans of overwhelming, cruel, or draconian reps. but we are beleivers that there are winners and losers in war and that needs to be recognized
    <Schattenmann> No. only to embarrass us
    <Schattenmann> There is no one that does not already recognize that' we've lost
    <OsRavan[ODN]> its only embaressing if you make a big deal out of it. it can and should be fun
    <OsRavan[ODN]> im happy to work with you to find a version that will not be embaressing
    <Schattenmann> I agree, and I think you should have as much fun as CoJ
    <OsRavan[ODN]> if that means writing less, the subject matter you write on, something that isnt written at all. whatever
    <OsRavan[ODN]> all that im willing to work with you on so you dont feel embaressed
    <OsRavan[ODN]> if you dont want to write anything in particular maybe you all write in orange font for a week when posting on the owf?
    <OsRavan[ODN]> ;;shrugs;; feel free to throw some ideas out at me
    <OsRavan[ODN]> i think you will find that most neutral parties will find the odn term offers to you rather reasonable
    <Schattenmann> Os, ODN is not entitled to anything. You have suffered no losses, you have nothing to make up for except maye time you spent writing a DoW that was pointless to begin with. There is no reason to ask for anything, and there is no reason for CoJ to give you anything
    <Schattenmann> As such, since you want us to line up and all shake hands little league-style with some goofing off, I see no harm in doing that with ODN as a partner
    <OsRavan[ODN]> its not our fault your side... primarily legion in this case... chose not to fight. Nor am i trying to pressure you to leave the battlefield. if you want to keep fighting until you feel we have 'suffered' enough then by all means go ahead. You will find ODN wont care in the slightest. If you want to resolve this then you can work with me. Youve heard what we need. Im quite happy to work
    <OsRavan[ODN]> with you on the details so it is not something you find embaressing
    <Schattenmann> An admission of defeat is proof enough of its reality, anything else is toppings
    <OsRavan[ODN]> throw out suggestions of something fun coj doesnt mind doing
    <Schattenmann> CoJ will do anything the ODN will do
    <OsRavan[ODN]> ODN in your situation would be more then willing to do what i am asking of you. but we are not in your situation
    <Schattenmann> Deliver us a crate of oranges and we'll write a haiku about them
    <OsRavan[ODN]> what does delivering you a crate of oranges entail?
    <Schattenmann> X. The ODN will deliver to CoJ one crate of oranges Y. CoJ will compose a haiku about said oranges
    <OsRavan[ODN]> yes but what in a pracitcal sense does delivering you a crate of oranges entail?
    <OsRavan[ODN]> i.e a link to the oranges?
    <Schattenmann> Post a picture of a crate of oranges in reply one and we'll post a haiku in reply 2
    <OsRavan[ODN]> so you post a haiku on a picture of oranges we post in the peace thread?
    <OsRavan[ODN]> im fine with that
    <Schattenmann> See how easy that was
    <OsRavan[ODN]> i could say the same to you
    <OsRavan[ODN]> are you going to throw a fuss over the word surrender in these terms like whats their face?
    <OsRavan[ODN]> or can we consider this done pending the odn senate approving and you getting terms with mk
    <Schattenmann> Why would I care about temporal terminology when Justitia always wins?
    <OsRavan[ODN]> its that attitude that makes people insist on lulz terms you know, right/
    <Schattenmann> People's own egos make them insist on lulz terms
    <OsRavan[ODN]> the reason lulz terms are so common is because without them too many losing alliances then go back and claim they 'won' due to a lack of terms
    <OsRavan[ODN]> thats the historical reason why they are so common these days
    <OsRavan[ODN]> ill do an official draft so you can look at what was posted and give your ok though
    <Schattenmann> CoJ has offered to surrender three times since hostilities began and ODN has refused each one pending total peace. If that's still your assertion then sure, the negotiations may be over but the war is not until it is
    <OsRavan[ODN]> yes and yes
    <OsRavan[ODN]> we will not even be voting on your terms until after you have secured a perliminary agreement with mk
    <Schattenmann> As long as you understand that and we don't get a bunch of "you attacked after our agreement!" if we launch further attacks
    <OsRavan[ODN]> not at all, attack away
    <OsRavan[ODN]> though btw since we are giving warnings.
    <OsRavan[ODN]> i should also warn you that if you actually follow through on your threats to TFE or our applicant aa these terms may be changed
    <Schattenmann> Sure, you've made that clear and we acknowledge it. Besides, the 25th day has done more damage to TFE than we could have
    <Schattenmann> And the spam to App was just that
    <OsRavan[ODN]> thats to be expected in any invasion alliance. theyve been moderatly sucessfull in meeting my expectations so far
    <OsRavan[ODN]> most expectations i should say
    <Schattenmann> Make the other TFE merge into them
    <Schattenmann> wait
    <Schattenmann> that's TPE
    <OsRavan[ODN]> tpe are good people and a very solid alliance
    <OsRavan[ODN]> i dont think you need to worry about them losing many members to disbanding
    <Schattenmann> I don't have any TPE-wide opinions
    <Schattenmann> KingEd on the other hand should definitely have waited until after TPE was bigger than CoJ to call CoJ an irrelevant micro
    <OsRavan[ODN]> heh tpe doesnt have much fear in them
    <Schattenmann> Not as a matter of fear, just as a matter of not being silly
    <Schattenmann> You've gotta stop reading everything I say as a threat if we're going to make this relationship work :3
    <OsRavan[ODN]> heh, I would be surprised if we develop much of a healthy relationship. No offense attended. I don't read everything you say as a threat so much as I do a potential propoganda attempt on the OWF.
    <OsRavan[ODN]> potential thread for down the line take a look before i share it with others
    <OsRavan[ODN]> After long months of war, ODN is pleased to announce a cessation of hostilities with CoJ based on the below terms.
    <OsRavan[ODN]> 1) CoJ admits defeat and surrenders to ODN
    <OsRavan[ODN]> 2) CoJ will not re-enter the current conflict or any wars resulting from the current conflict (this includes the NPO-Doomhouse front). This also includes sending aid to Alliances at war.
    <OsRavan[ODN]> 3) CoJ shall write a haiku praising these ODN oranges: Fresh Oranges for CoJ
    <OsRavan[ODN]> term 2 will obviously be removed if there is no war going on when it comes time to post this
    <OsRavan[ODN]> is what i posted above good with you?
    <Schattenmann> I think it would make more sense as I prposed it, <Schattenmann> X. The ODN will deliver to CoJ one crate of oranges Y. CoJ will compose a haiku about said oranges
    <OsRavan[ODN]> its simpler to do as i suggested. if you need the world odn delivered oranges i can do that
    <Schattenmann> Thus 3) ODN shall send one crate of oranges to CoJ 4. CoJ shall send ODN a haiku about those oranges
    <OsRavan[ODN]> 3) ODN sends CoJ a crate of oranges: Fresh Oranges for CoJ and expects a haiku praising them in return.
    <Schattenmann> Since you don't want it to sound like white peace, you could even get all snarky and say "ODN shall send a crate of oranges to the starving nations of CoJ" or something condescending
    <OsRavan[ODN]> no one is trying to be condescending though
    <OsRavan[ODN]> the edited one i put above work for you?
    <Schattenmann> Alright then 3) ODN sends CoJ a crate of oranges: Fresh Oranges for CoJ and in return CoJ will write a haiku about them.
    <OsRavan[ODN]> fair enough.
    <OsRavan[ODN]> Understand by the bye that the rest of our gov will need to debate and discuss this andd my word is not fully binding
    <Schattenmann> Sure
    <OsRavan[ODN]> i assume you understand that actually considering you already went to the senate ::amuswed::
    <Schattenmann> So, two weeks?
    <OsRavan[ODN]> whenever you work things out with mk
    <Schattenmann> ...that was a Senate joke
    While CoJ understood that as the head of a representative domcracy, Os could not guarantee this is what the end terms would look like, we also understood that it was the Senate that would look over them. Os confirmed this <OsRavan[ODN]> Understand by the bye that the rest of our gov will need to debate and discuss this andd my word is not fully binding
    Instead, OsRavan posted the terms for his entire membership--340 people ill-acquainted with everything that has been going on--not "the rest of gov." The result of this was exactly what anyone might expect, people with axes to grind started asking for things, and the squeaky wheel got greased.


    OsRavan now claims that he must honor the will of people like this, but what about the rest?


    No, OsRavan is representing the segment of thought that he wants, nothing more, nothing less.
    After 8 days of alliance-wide discussions, Os returned to CoJ with this answer:
    <OsRavan[ODN]> so i took what we talked about back to the alliance. ::shrugs;; I under-estimated the dislike with your and coj's conduct in this war though. The feeling was very strong that an apology to TFE is needed. The goal is not to publicly humiliate you. It can be a private apology with no one outside aware. But we do need an apology. Or atleast an admitance that your behavior to them (and our applicant aa btw) was inappropriate
    <OsRavan[ODN]> on a side note if you want to drop the lulz term we can. IT was also decided that those sort of terms are reserved for opponents we consider to have behaved honorably on the field of battle. Such as in this war, for us, MCXA, Legion, etc. That does not include you in our perspective, and that term can be dropped if you so desire
    --In fact, the lulz term was dropped because Os's membership told him it was stupid, just like I told him.--
    <Yawoo> Yeah, no it wasn't
    <Schattenmann> Why do you think that it was inappropriate?
    <OsRavan[ODN]> you threatening our applicants and our proctectorate? Empty threats I might add. I found it lacking because, finding yourself in a losing war, you proceeded to attempt to spin propoganda and verbally bully neutral parties in order to mdake up for your lack on the battlefield. Now you are certainly allowed to do this as you are allowed to do anything. But for every action there is consequences. Your repeated threats and
    <Yawoo> Since I was the one speaking with them, no I did not threaten them
    <Yawoo> I warned them
    <Schattenmann> What's neutral about a party that is aiding your war effort?
    <OsRavan[ODN]> threats were most certainly issued to both the applicant AA and to our protectorate by both CoJ and 64 on the OWF and via IRC. I will also add 1) they were tech dealing with nations not at war not 'aiding' a war effort. 2) We do not recognize any moral ambiguity in tech dealing while at war. A stance we have extended towards our enemies in multiple wars now. 3) Regardless of your feelings on the matter, it does
    <OsRavan[ODN]> not excuse your threats or hostile actions. And tbh I saw you operating not out of any conviction but out of an attempt to sow disunity between us and our friends
    <OsRavan[ODN]> You have clearly demonstrated in the course of the war that your goal was to get an edge. No matter what. No matter whether your actions would be considered appropriate or not. And again, I can respect that atttidude. But when it does not pay off, it comes with consequences
    The spam in question?
    Highly inappropriate to be sure.
    I have explained my reluctance to apologize for this spam and for my conversations with The Flood Empire on the natural fact that is an act of war to aid an alliance at warvery clearly:
    Despite this inability to apologize because we have done nothing wrong, when the Doomhouse coalition presented this article as part of the coalition surrender, Cult of Justitia endorsed the terms.
    This article, and the rest of the document, have been agreed to by every alliance on NPO's side of the war, but delays still continues in spite of our willingness to these absurdities because alliances on Doomhouse's side keep changing the terms--after not participating in negotiations for 2 months, LOST showed up with last minute revisions after NPO-side signatures were collected. On and on. As far as CoJ is concerned the terms are made and agreed upon.
    All this notwithstanding, Cult of Justitia made official inquiries to surrender on March 9, March 24th, and April 14th which were all flatly denied. Meanwhile, during this period, when asked by members of his government whether anyone had tried to surrender, OsRavan replied in the negative, assuring them that CoJ had no desire to surrender, keeping his members and government in the dark about the truth. Now he continues in his habit of lies about our intentions with these easily-disproven claims that CoJ has refused to surrender.
  18. Schattenmann
    I started my nation in Feb 07 when I saw the link on Fark.com. Irony tag assplodes by the time this blog is over.
    I didn't read the Fark thread about the link, though, so I wasn't really aware that there was a Fark alliance or that they were in the deathgrip of a war with GOONS. In fact, I wasn't really aware of any alliances; I knew there were alliances, but I didn't see any reason to join one, I just collected taxes every day. I never got techraided because I never bought tech--why buy something so expensive
    My manager was also playing, and he got raided one day in August, so he decided to join an alliance (MHA). I found out there was a GOONS alliance, so I joined it. I wasn't a forum goon, but I had been enthralled by Yablonski's tales of North Appleton for 4 years by that point, and SA was generally hilarious. y boss suggested Fark since we joined because of Fark, but I figured I had been reading SA since 2001, but Fark only since 2007, so I went with GOONS.
    I joined right in the middle of ModGate and the Moldavi Rebellion, and everyone in #goonrush was constantly talking about some guy named Ivan LOLdavi and people were all the time linking their QQQQQQQ posts on the OWF, so I began reading the OWF and really playing the game for the first time a full 6 months after first starting my nation.
    Unfortunately, I joined GOONS just in time for GOONS to get the ever loving snot kicked out of it by NpO, GGA, and cronies, the forum (GOONS forum) was deleted in Novemeber like 2 weeks after I got masked out of the bootcamp, etc etc--it was a crummy time to join. When Alastor and banned member took over (there;s two people I miss), they had a lot of us fake surrender so we could spy, so I did that and had a lot of fun for a while. When they made a new forum they wanted everyone's SomethingAwful forum acct name, so I finally bought an account for me and also one for Naguchanzilla. I primarily went ahead and registered on the SA forums after so many years so that in the future Sardonic would be able to cite my post count and call me not a real goon.
    Why did you become a GOON?
  19. Schattenmann
    <Schattenmann> So, I'm sitting here at 8:35 on Easter Sunday procrastinating an Economics essay that's due by 11:55 PM
    <Subtleknifewielder> uh oh...
    <Schattenmann> I hate econ so much
    <Schattenmann> This is an easy essay
    <Schattenmann> I can write this in 30 minutes
    <Subtleknifewielder> But it's boring?
    <Schattenmann> I wrote a 5-page essay about CN in 2 hours from 1-3 AM once but I can't write this econ essay
    Assignment:
    The Bureau of Economic Analysis provides profit data for various industries in the United States. Go to www.bea.gov and find National Income and Product Account Table 6.16D on Corporate Profits by Industry. Based on the most-recent figures, which of the following categories of industry classifications has the greatest profits: (a) financial or nonfinancial; (b) manufacturing, transportation, wholesale trade, or retail trade; © durable goods or nondurable goods? Compared to the same quarter a year earlier, which sectors had the largest and smallest percentage increases in profit? Which sectors, if any, experienced losses? What are the implications of the profit changes for expansion or contraction of the particular industries?
    8 years ago I began the most nightmarish odyssey that I have ever been exposed to in my life. College. I hate college, I hate it more than anything on Earth. I would rather work as an organ harvester specializing in infants than be in college. I hate college because I like to learn.
    Here's the lowdown for anyone out there who has not yet entered college: The first two years are high school over again. English, biology, math, foreign language, study skills. Why did I even attend the last two years of high school? I want to be a teacher. I don't want 3 months off/year, I don't want state benefits, I don't want to be off by 3 every day. I want to teach. So, I went to Longwood, which is where you go to be a teacher in Virginia. I went nuts. I became nocturnal, playing Diablo II and watching Law and Order re-runs from 4PM to 5 AM every day,commuting home evry weekend. Honestly, I could have murdered my super-broseph roommate and hanged myself with his intestines. Clearly, I failed out of Longwood in one semester. Where do flunkies go? Thaaaat's right, community college. I've been in community college for 5 of the last 8 years. At this point I hope less people read blogs than I imagine do, but seriously I think you guys all know Schattenmann well enough to know that I don't give a damn about your snickering over that figure since I am confident that I am more intelligent than most of you regardless.
    Back on point.
    In 1924, Longwood was the "State Teachers College at Farmville." You went there and they taught you to be a teacher. That was 86 years ago. If you're not familiar with Education now, basically, you major in a subject area (history) and minor in education (elementary, secondary, etc). This means a lot of pissing around, jumping through bureaucratic hoops.
    As a history major, here's a sampling of what I have to take: 2 semesters of a foreign language, 1 econ, 2 science, 2 math, an art, 2 english, 1 physical eduation, 1 literature. Look familiar, teeny-boppers? That's right; as I said, it's your high school curriculum.
    -Foreign language: I took 3 years of Spanish and 2 years of German. I tested as a fluent speaker in German when I entered Longwood, reprieve due to knowledge already present? No, German culture class instead of grammar. I detest Spanish as vulgar, so of course the community college I'm in doesn't offer German.
    -Science: Two BIO courses are suggested. I gene-spliced bacteria in 8th grade. I goddamn took the DNA out of mold and put it into bacteria to produce antibiotic-resistant bacteria! When I was 14! I HAVE BIOLOGY DOWN, GODDAMNIT! I took ecology/oceanography in 4th grade, I took general science in 6th, life science (biology) in 7th, biology in 10th, ecology in 12th. I have proven my scientific abiliies.
    -Math: Math has absolutely nothing to do with teaching anything except math. It just !@#$@#$ doesn't.
    -Econ: Ok, economics is a social science. Microeconomics and macroeconomics, however, have nothing to do with the study of history. A general knowledge of either will help in interpretation of events, but not to a degree that either needsbe studied by someone going into my field.
    -Phys Ed: Yeah, you read that correctly--I have to take weightlifting, ice-!@#$@#$-skating, nutrition, or some other bullsmack class to be a teacher. A history teacher.
    -English/Lit: Welcome to English 111 and 112, hopefully you saved all your high school essays because we're writing the same essays all over again, except this time it's gonna cost you $500. I scored in the 99th percentile in writing in every standardized test that ever beleaguered students in my school district. I am write and so can you!
    -Art: Yes, art. Here's your art: I had 13 ceramics pieces displayed from 8th-10th grade. Art is my !@#$%*. The art history class I'm taking this semester to satisfy my art credit? It's the same as the Western Culture class I took to fill a humanities credit.
    The problem is that colleges and universities are no longer institutions of learning. They are sports franchises and prestige machines. Why create a high quality teacher in 2 years when you can squeeze 4 years' worth of tuition out of him? If knowledge had anything to do with college the knowledge you possess when you get there would matter. Why did I take an extra year of math and Spanish in high school to get an Advanced Diploma when it doens't make any difference? Why shouldn't I give up for 4 years and work in crappy jobs if the !@#$ just keeps flowing? Do I live in a Pink Floyd album?!
    What's the answer? I !@#$@#$ dare, no, I beg all of you to go to your counselor/academic advisor/whatever your college calls it and ask why an art student has to take an economics class and I will also bet each of you that here's what you get: "We want well-rounded students."
    "Well-rounded" is the job of goddamned elementary and secondary schools. AND HERE IS THE CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM in that very realization! I'm taking high school English because college is high school, and I'm surrounded by morons because high school doesn't count!
    I want to die. I just want to die more than I want to teach anymore.
  20. Schattenmann
    I eat lunch at a little North African joint called al-Kawthar about twice a week. I like the food, so I had already been eating there a lot, but they play al Jazeera on the TV so since the protests I've been eating there a lot more ot catch the news. It's never very busy (I actually think they're in pretty dire straits) so it's usually just me and the cook sitting in the lobby watching TV while I eat.
    Today they were showing a lot of coverage of Libya and also a bit of protests in Aman, Jordan. It got back to Libya and there were split heads and some guy that didn't know what he was doing blowing himself up with a mortar (which I'm surprised we haven't heard more of, it's bound to happen when the national armories get busted wide open by civilians even if the avg Libyan man has 6 mos service under his belt) and lots of 28 Days Later style mobs sprinting through the streets. Then it went over to a still of Gaddafi with some bullet points about him (I don't read or speak Arabic, I'm blissfully unaware) and I said to the cook "you know say what you will but the guy knows how to dress."

    And she says "He's crazy!" And I said, "yeah but look at those clothes!" So, she says, "Have you seen 'Zanga zanga'?! It's song."
    "About him?"
    "No! Against him! It's funny you should look it up on theeeee nets."
    So, I did:

    I wish Admin would turn on the media code
    It's Gadaffi's speech from last week remixed remixed and put on a British track.
    Personally, I know it's supposed to be funny, and I know that Arabs and people all over are cracking up, but I can't laugh at it. A "shibber" is a hand-length (20 cm), and "zanga" is alley. Gadaffi has asked his supporters to go shibber shibber and zanga zanga--foot by foot and street by street and house by house--killing every protestor, and while the East may be secure, in Gadaffi's zones of control he's doing just that. It's possible that the words have been mixed around such that he's been made to say something else, but--not speaking Arabic--I can't tell.
    But, either way, thought I'd share the video with everyone.
  21. Schattenmann
    I've been getting a lot of question about CNTC so hopefully I can get you all off my back.
    CN Trade Centre is no more. The owner moved halfway across the world and CTNC was not one of the things he decided to keep.
    CNTC was probably the most revolutionary tool to be developed since MFO's calcs. It put a powerful trade tool into the hands of the individual. Unfortunately, by the time we shut it down, pea-brained "trade coordinator" bureaucrats had managed to destroy its usefulness the same way they've done with every other trade hub: By refusing to follow the rules and clogging it with hundreds of nations who had no idea they had been registered, had no intention of joining the circle when notice came, and ceased to exist two weeks after these little badge-wearers had done their dirty deed.
    For those of you who benefited from CNTC, I'm glad you got the experience, and thanks for being part of the success of the system. For those of you who registered any nation other than your own, jump off a cliff. No, seriously. For those of you who got burned, I'm sorry that a few numbskulls screwed it up for everyone; we tried our best to keep the circles clear of ghosts, but we were literally facing hundreds a month.
    Smithy, MrWhite, and OcUK, you did a huge service. This was a masterpiece the likes of which I doubt we'll see again. Thank you for doing it for all of us, and thanks for letting me have a hand in helping.
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