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  1. [quote name='King Wally' timestamp='1340683889' post='2996587']
    You know what you must do FARK...

    [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__xQRsYhanvI/Ss9GB0rUFTI/AAAAAAAAA-Q/YuCe6-2Gx_o/s320/Moon+Attack.jpg[/img]

    Nukes > Moon Bases

    o/ FARK!!!! :wub:
    [/quote]

    Dammit, Wally. I wasted a perfectly good adult beverage!! Hilarious.

  2. Congratulations on achieving your 5th Anniversary as a CN Alliance, TPF. I like to see many of my TOOL brothers and sisters amongst your ranks.

    I have a wall of text to type about this thread, but I will take my own advice, and leave it out of this happy occasion. As the years grow longer, it is true that there will be some who will match your accomplishment. I would love to think that many will, because the game will be better for it.

    HUZZAH!

  3. [quote name='Kzoppistan' timestamp='1339465358' post='2981111']
    You are out of your !@#$@#$ mind. You were a drop in the bucket of tenure of gov members. You lasted, what, a week? Maybe two? And processed a handful of reports that I delegated to you and then you bailed. How dare you slander my contributions. I was MoFA for over half a year, restructured the entire department, oversaw all the diplomats, ran several other ministries at the same time, and went on to lead the alliance.

    You are an emotionally unstable pathological liar with identity issues who's addicted to the public attention of wallowing in the cycle of betrayal, confession, and guilt.

    Now pack in your attention whoring drama-lama crap-fest and get the $%&@ out.
    [/quote]

    Okay. Well just...DAMN, Kopp. That is quite the BURRRRNNNNNN! Bravo! :) Well played, Sir. Well played, indeed! *takes notes*

  4. [quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1332999381' post='2944828']
    How quaint, you think this conflict changes anything politically, and it only took you 400 words to say it.

    In the real world, we and others like us will continue to enforce our policies as we see fit. We are not alone.

    There is no victory for Kaskus and Mongols, moral or otherwise. There is no shame in our allies lending us strength where we need it, we would gladly do the same for them. Our convictions and those of our allies are simply stronger, our victory is inevitable. A "pity" it seems our enemies won't wise up before even more of their nations pass into the abyss.

    E:

    You should probably quit while you're ahead, there is no defending Legion's performance in DH/NPO.
    [/quote]

    1.I used reason. You used a forum warning and complaint.
    2. Your saying it does not make it so. Neither does mine, which I made patently clear in the post.
    3. If, in 400 words, I accurately describe this conflict, given the time and pixels wasted in it, I'd say that's pretty succinct.
    4. Stay classy.

  5. [quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1332913563' post='2944167']
    You guys could make any support you give to GOONS be conditional based on them agreeing to end the war in a way you support (rather than them setting their goal on huge rep figures), if you don't agree with the reps GOONS are trying to get you guys shouldn't give them unconditional support in a war until they get it.
    [/quote]


    Three things come to mind here for me:

    1. */me running to toybox to find "Oh, !@#$! I'm shocked!" look.
    2. Did I see an offer to take up [b][i][u]White Peace[/u][/i][/b], period?
    3. Methrage is the voice of reason here.

    And, finally:

    Regardless of the eventual outcome here, the OP declares a moral victory for Mongols/Kaskus/SW, which cannot be eradicated by protestations to the otherwise. What cannot seem to be accepted by GOONS is that their "policy" is quite literally their own. To the rest of the cyberverse, it is a perverse and roundly discounted anomaly that no other nation or AA will now, or ever, accept as reasonable, acceptable or preferable. Every AA has the absolute to play the game as they choose for themselves. It should come as zero surprise to see one (or more) of their determinations completely refuted by the reality of every other AA in the game. For some, this is the preferred character of the AA. Why you then castigate the rest of Bob who stands universally against the choice (excepting the other members of your "bloc" defies intellectual reasoning. Take the White Peace. Walk away. You cannot possibly hope to conince anyone that the origins of this conflict were anything other than said aberrant "policy"...ever. This is my personal opinion, but I feel really comfortable in offering it. To attempt to apologize for your position, an entirely indefensible one other than your choice for your aa character (which should remain within your AA, btw) is truly a fool's errand. It is intellectually dishonest to attempt anything else. It would seem that the entire cyberverse knows it, yet you continue to allow this "policy" to decimate your AA, unnecessarily call into conflict your "bloc", and potentiate the next global conflagration. I would further predict that this will not, ever, ever turn out in any way which could, even in the wildest, most drug-induced possibility, end in your favor, GOONS.

    I have no particular animas against you, or your bloc. I join Methrage, and those others who, despite the noise coming from other quarters, in simply advising you to pull back, admit your error in judgement (period) and live to fight another day. Even if you ZI every one of your opponents, you cannot, and will [i]never[/i] take from them the moral victory this OP represents for them, and to the entire planet. That is simple reality. You must surely, given the brain trust of some of the best, and most experienced players in this game, know this. It is my hope you will respect them, and the legacy your accumulated recalcitrance will surely bring to them, and to the GOONS "bloc". Infamy comes to mind.

    Having said that...I've got plenty of popcorn!

  6. [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1328493523' post='2915186']
    They'll give to charity later to repair their reputation. [u][i][b]Take a hit for the future of mankind, you selfish dick.
    [/b][/i][/u][/quote]



    Yep, that is SO sig worthy, Omni. Hope ya don't mind, but it is just epic! :)

  7. Morality dies when no one any longer values it. (Now THAT's profound, dammit!) :)

    The trouble with Schatt? He's usually, uncomfortably, correct. Good job, Schatt.

    That GOONs has such foggy ambiguity in their Constitution is, and should remain, their problem. To believe they rule the Planet is also a problem only for them. However, to proclaim such a nefarious reality for their members, with the expectation that other alliances will agree with, much less support it is a bit high on the arrogance chart. It is not merely a disparate policy. It is an exclusively singular policy. It is an unaccepted policy, refuted in it's entirety by most (if not all) other alliances in the cyberverse. Howling about it is not going to change the GOONs Constitution. The best, and most effective response to this policy is to insure it never infects any other alliance in the game. It will never be a majority view, or even a minority view, for that matter. It is an extremely fringe view.

    It is an incendiary view. That is the reason for it. Nothing more. The message does not say, as Sardonic might wish it, "[i]Stay away from our raids.[/i]" The message is "[i]We will destroy whom we wish. This means you.[/i]"

    Funny thing about bullies. They inevitably meet up with one moral person (or alliance) who does eventually step up, and "[i]retrain[/i]" their thinking. These other alliances also (usually) are the alliances with enough treaty support to overcome what is, in actuality, such a fringe minority.
    That's my observation, at least, from having played the game just a little while. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. It's a morality thing. I would also hasten to add that Sardonic's character in this game has an amazing ability to be very moral. I know this personally, because he has been so towards me, my nation, and my alliances.

    Give them their due. GOONs plays the bad guy game pretty well. They do it on purpose. They admit they do it because that is the way they choose to play the game. Their leadership states it. Their members reinforce and support it.

    That's a moral choice. I find that interesting. Knowing what the moral choice is, the alliance chooses against that choice.

    See my first statement.

  8. [quote name='Locke' timestamp='1330351230' post='2929254']
    Oh, it has been. I believe Karma spawned a few.

    Ah, here we go, know there was one to top 200 pages: [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=60464"]http://forums.cybern...showtopic=60464[/url] Bear in mind that all of this was done within three days.
    [/quote]

    Oaky, just WOW! I forgot about that one! All these years later, and we're still talking the very same way, to the same mindsets, and many of the same people. Just...WOW! :)

    Thanks for the reference. 228. That's a number to shoot for, but i don't think I could survive the effort.

  9. I was a long-standing member of TOOL just prior to their last war. On the day gov announced targets, several nations who felt they could not sustain war at that time asked MilCom if they could hippie to prepare. Those we felt could benefit were given permission. AT THE SAME TIME, those same nations were top-listed for war aid/rebuild. We didn't tell those nations that; we counted on their knowing that we always, from our glorious beginnings, did this simply as a matter of course--as a matter of honor. Those who we felt could not benefit from being in PM, we told. We also told them we would get their aid to them first. Why? Because, no matter your NS, your nation is your CN life, your blood.


    Several nations simply left. Some (most, iirc) requested demasking, posted their GBCW, and left the AA. Those were dismissed members from the AA prior to the commencement of battle. These were all, in one form or another, nations as yours was as you began your Alliance life in GLoF. Some were too new to the game, or too new to the game AND the Alliance to sustain even the most minimal attack, with virtually no chance of building up defensive forces if (when) attacked. That's one thing.

    There were, I believe, 23 nations total who just...left the AA. No "Help!", no pleas, no nuthin'. After the assignments, and before (or on the first day of) war commenced, these members left the Alliance, the community, the friends, and all that TOOL stood for. They were listed as traitors, blacklisted from the AA, and sought out and destroyed. Why?


    In our AA, there were some things one just simply did not do. For any reason. An entire alliance dismissed entirely, without even the first opportunity to prove faithfulness to even the least of our community. What they felt was a reasonable decision was a slap in every member's face, an outright assault on our principles, and a black stain our rather well thought-of history on CN. Suddenly, it was the "[b][i]name[/i][/b]" of the AA that had been damaged, without justifiable cause. These rulers either did not understand, or otherwise they did not accept what every member of our community spent four years building one war battling pixel after another, time after time. It was the Alliance that was damaged, you see. It completely need not have been. But, the decision by a ruler to simply abandon the AA? That's just not going to go unnoticed.

    I know that, if I were to call ANY member of The Order of Light in this moment, needing protection, help, or anything else, I would get nations running to my aid from all over CN. Yes, I earned it. But, [u]so did they earn the opportunity to respond[/u]. If they were to do it, I would go running to their aid as well. Call it [i]espirit de corps [/i]if you want to[i]. [/i]It lives on, even to this moment. Not as the TOOL AA (that's gone now), but what TOOL has always stood for in CN. Much more than pixels on a war screen, our AA is a brotherhood, a fellowship from which NO member can voluntarily remove themself.

    It sounds to me like you found one, too. It sounds like you had a lapse of faith in a community you did not yet know, nor understand. You presumed facts not in evidence, and made what was for you, and for the AA, a very unworthy mistake. Given your CN "age" and history, that comes as a bit of a surprise to me, because the walk doesn't justify the talk. Regardless, I must tell you that there is another important factor in play here. [b]Honor[/b].

    GLoF, from all I have seen, read, and from members I have talked to, is a "STRAC" alliance. They stand tall for their community, and for those whom they call friends. When your enemies speak well of you, listen. Honor is not demanded for it's rightful place, anywhere. Honor is commanded by the walk of the talk. You either do, or you don't. They were the offended party. It is your DUTY TO HONOR to do the right thing, to attempt to correct the dishonor you have brought upon what is, from all appearances, a very honorable alliance that any player in this game would gladly find as a home.

    This is not their duty to fix anything, however. It is yours, friend. Because of the intensity of your argument, it seems to me that such things as honor matter to you.[OOC] Given your current military situation, it had damned well better. (Take that from a retired O-6, USA). In the RL, buddies, squads, platoons, companies--and nations depend on it. Your Honor.[/OOC] Here, it is what we do, as players, when nobody's looking, when the lights are off. Go to the GLoF government, sincerely apologize, receive without comment the punishment you are rightfully assigned, and then do your very best to rejoin that alliance and EARN the respect you seek. Theirs will matter. To you. And, to be quite honest, to us, too.

    I wish you well on your journey!

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