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yay we finally exist, officially. Took you long enough Mayz

[quote name='admin' date='04 March 2010 - 11:39 PM' timestamp='1267767881' post='2214635'] Try now. If that doesn't work request a temporary password [url="http://www.cybernations.net/sendpassword1.asp"]here[/url]. [/quote] Thank you i can now log in fine.

I changed the email address to both my CN account and i changed the passwords while i was at it, now i am struggling to log in. [quote] The action that you just tried to perform has been denied. This could be the result of trying to submit a form twice, using your back button to resubmit form information, or attempting to illegally upload information to the server. This feature exists primarily to stop hackers and the use of the back button in the game. If you are not performing any of these activities but are still getting this error page try to go back, refresh your page and/or clear your Internet cache. [/quote] I have refreshed the page and cleared the internet cache (I think) and still get the same message. Can anyone help? Cheers

nice to see peace, hope everyone had fun

[quote name='Mayzie' date='16 February 2010 - 10:48 AM' timestamp='1266338912' post='2185719'] For $%&@ sake, this thing is a mess enough as it is without you in here throwing such ridiculous allegations around. Ok, now GLOF forged a screenshot so they could attack their own ally? I hope this mess gets sorted out and quick, it's gone quite far enough. [/quote] agree with Mayz, I hope this can be sorted out quickly. however someone did fake that Screen shot of Ven and handed it over to GLOF with the intention of causing bad blood/war. So i think most would like to find out who actually did hand that faked forum post to GLOF. Anyway i do hope somehow out of all of this mess some form of agreement and peace be reached.

well done on peace guys. hope everyone had fun

..for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under GLOF rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom, for that alone, which no honest man gives GLOF if we must ride this to the death of our nations so be it, we know we have done no wrong. why would we ever say we done something that we did not do, to save our nations? I dont think so.

congrats GPA, Happy 4th also been a long time since i chatted to Helpma,so its nice to see he is still around

[quote name='Gyouza' date='13 February 2010 - 03:54 PM' timestamp='1266098062' post='2179763'] I can see the distortion is basically the same but the color is still the same as the rest of the IP's. [/quote] But Demolisher 2 has the same mask as Dunnowhat, yet the colours appear different.

[quote name='Gyouza' date='13 February 2010 - 03:38 PM' timestamp='1266097133' post='2179739'] Looking at the 2 images with the IP's (the originally provided evidence and the capture2 provided above) I noticed when zooming in to the same degree on capture 2 the distortion was consistent through all the IP addresses and the coloring remains the same all the way through. With the original with JackieChan on it there is no distortion above or below their IP like there is for the rest and the numbers are a sharper black then even the brackets and asterisk on the same line. You can see this VERY clearly if you look at the blurring around JackieChans line and you will see the brackets are blurry all the way up whereas the areas above and below the number are not. This is important because ON EVERY OTHER LINE the blurriness is consistent all the way across the line, it does not change midway though the line or its blurry on one part and not the other. On the image that was supposedly jackieChan's IP, you will notice that the top of the bracket is blurred whereas right next to it, above or below the IP address, it is suddenly clear. it is not like this ON ANY OTHER PART OF THE IMAGE OR ON ANY OTHER LINE- i.e. Veneke, Holloweyes & Desertson- blurry all the way across in the same way. [/quote] Ok could you look at the one that i posted the link to, now zoom in on Ven. It does the exact same thing there that you just said.

[quote name='monkeybum' date='13 February 2010 - 03:00 PM' timestamp='1266094836' post='2179679'] THe whole I used a poor format line doesn't make any sense..because the "weirdness" in that picture seems to be focused, only on - the one important spot in that whole picture. Everything else there is normal. [/quote] As we said as well seemed to do it because he was marked as hidden from the online users list. same thing happened here in that screen shot. [url="http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll214/Veneke1/capture2.jpg"]http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll214/Veneke1/capture2.jpg[/url] Demo seems to get bolded more than the other names. again we invite you around to our forums and we will take another screen shot to prove that it happens when he takes his screen shots. You guys also accepted that screen as proof, as ven said you guys could have investigated it further if you thought anything was wrong with it. Or approached the 57th gov at any point if you had issues over proof, i am sure the guys would have accepted it like they did the first time when you rejected the evidence.

[quote name='monkeybum' date='13 February 2010 - 02:48 PM' timestamp='1266094130' post='2179661'] 3. AND again, this is the all crucial fact.. The first screenshot that Veneke gave us to prove one of our nations is a spy, has been tampered with. That much it seems everyone is in agreement with. [/quote] umm i am sorry but i dispute all of your evidence. Many people have agreed it was just the poor format it was saved in. I told you to pop round the forums and we would have him take another screen shot and it would turn out just the same. You guys being their would prove he did not have the time to alter it. You guys accepted the screen shot in the first place i might add.

[quote name='obscurus' date='13 February 2010 - 02:26 PM' timestamp='1266092803' post='2179627'] Oh yes, and we also eat babies. I mean, no, those were the communists. Please people: stay in thread. And you are always talking about the alleged Veneke screenshot: this was only the final proof we HAD to look closely at the first ones... and we did. And, more, the last one was sent to us by someone who knew that the first two have been sent already: and this is reserved stuff. Not everyone in the Lodge or in 57th knew that, for instance. [/quote] Well whoever posted the forum screen shot would have to have just been a normal member other wise they would have a Mod or admin mask and this would allow them to hit the edit button on vens post. However we can see that the edit button is not there in that screen shot. So it would have to have been posted somewhere that normal members can see. For what it is worth if that was ever posted in an alliance i was part of i would leave, i was on at the time that was meant to have been posted and i can guarantee there was no post even remotely similar. Apart from the fact it sounds nothing like Ven and other such stuff.

[quote name='hizzy' date='13 February 2010 - 10:54 AM' timestamp='1266080054' post='2179343'] I'm curious if Veneke will give someone else admin access to see the logged IP addresses on the 57th's forums. Even if that other post is deleted, if someone can just see for themselves the IP addresses it would clear up the entire issue, wouldn't it? [/quote] I am trying to get Ven come on and confirm this, but i dont see why anyone would have a problem with it as this would prove things

[quote name='Locke' date='13 February 2010 - 09:03 AM' timestamp='1266073396' post='2179224'] To echo Nippy here, that's the most important part. A difference in [i]the last[/i] set of numbers could mean multiple computers on the same network, the first is different networks entirely. [/quote] The first IP that was provided was not a complete match, however the second IP and the one in the Screen is an exact match in IP to the one our former member and GLOF member was using. the question is over the validity of the screens, as you said taken in a crappy format EDIT: sorry as pointed out above the first was taken from IRC