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  1. On 4/24/2019 at 5:16 PM, General Kanabis said:

    Size restriction on AA's might liven the place up.

    If bigger alliances (not all of them) weren't so focused on this desperate need to continue expanding their already bloated masses (hint the utter lack of active recruitment and increase in illicit activity), then maybe the world would undergo a drastic change of pace and environment on it's own. 

     

    When new players get here they often seek out the big alliances.

    This might not have been such a big deal when there were thousands more active players, but it is a tragedy nowadays.

    These people stay there, they wonder up, they become tech heavy and vastly wealthy... and then they dwindle into obscurity- into inactivity, without having ever truly played the game.

    Even with the reduction of the playerbase right now, I find this pointless. AAs come and go regardless of size. AAs create spheres networking/rejecting other spheres, that size is macro-micro dynamically altered. A limitation would have no effect by the same group only splitting up and still being a part of a larger, albeit additional, subject among them.

  2. 31 minutes ago, Tevron said:

    And that's still my point.

    What you said earlier was:

    9 hours ago, Tevron said:

    Isn't there some sort of insane break in logic though, where you demand that your government do something for you while refusing to partake in it?


    You should realize that after my explanation, it wasn't because people refused to partake. It's obvious he didn't allow the opportunities to do so. What this is saying here is that this is an impossibility because of his part, and he chose to blame people for it. He even explicitly decided people wouldn't even step up even with a power vacuum, rather than actually proving it. Instead, he decided a preemptive vote to dissolve the alliance was more in order.

  3. 18 minutes ago, Tevron said:

    Either people are willing to step up and run it or they aren't. In this situation, they weren't. You keep implying these other people existed, but they never did. If they did, they would have taken power or they would have stepped up. Since neither thing occurred and he (supposedly) unilaterally disbanded the AA with no new govt forming and deligitmizing his statement, it appears 100% that there was no one who was willing to run the show. Maybe you now have time in hindsight to have stepped up and done some !@#$, but you didn't and neither did anyone else.

    He was hogging the position of president simply because he's always elected to do so with almost no worthy competition. Refusing to step down prevents fresh blood from replacing the Gov. That's why no one could step up. The people did exist, but they never got the votes. So the government remains more of the same, and if it couldn't improve, how does one expect that things will improve if people couldn't step up because of their failures?

     

    I in hindsight thought he could have stepped down, because in his role and power, was powerless to do better about the circumstances because if his obvious complaint of his lack if being able to motivate people. That was why I suggested it, since he doesn't fairly bring real competition to the table and capable of being on that level, let alone consider the contributions it would give. You cannot blame the members of the alliance because of the gov's clear failures to be satisfied with the way they run the show.

  4. 18 minutes ago, Tevron said:

    Isn't there some sort of insane break in logic though, where you demand that your government do something for you while refusing to partake in it?

     

    If DS was pretty much the only one and you were loyal to your government, then you should have been loyal to him XD
     

    Actually, no one in the GA really demanded the government do anything. We dont ask that mich except to perform their duties satisfactorily, and they did. Hence no complaint on my side. So there wasn't any break in logic at that, as that didn't occur. Since it was DS's thread, he instigated the complaint, making demands for people to do stuff. I suggested a bunch of ways to solve it without losing the alliance. What did he have to show for it? Kills off the alliance.

     

    The thing is, he asked people to step up, but when I suggested that if he stepped down and other people took over since he was clearly strained anyway, he expressed doubt rather than permitting it. He never stepped down until after deciding the alliance should end before letting that ever happen. How can a government run and function, if you kill off the body that put them there?

  5. 7 hours ago, Tevron said:


    The forums of R&R had to be closed, they were exploited because the admin staff hadn't updated them recently, by ATG, who leaked some very worrisome discussions to the public. I feel like a lot of yall are talking out of your butts here. If R&R was truly active enough to persist, it would have, that's as simple as it is. There are even super inactive alliances that have been more lively than R&R since DS's last post. In this thread Horus has shown more activity than his entire supposed alliance in years, though it is entirely through the fallacious claim that it's all DS's fault that R&R disbanded, which it wasn't. Sure, it sucks if you lose your forums, but if that's what puts the nail in the coffin in a game that is largely not forum based for the majority of AAs, then I don't know what to tell you.

    There was a DDoS attack only just prior to the complaint. Otherwise, the forum wouldn't have been up and running and the vote implemented. The DDoS probably was a factor in cutting lines of communication and breaking the cycle, but this was not the scope of DS's complaint.

    (And to be perfectly honest, at the time, we weren't the only victims, I noted.)

     

    7 hours ago, DemonSpawn said:

    You know it’s funny that Horus wants to sit here and bad mouth me, after all this time....lol

      

    The truth is, R&R had a helluva run. At the end, there was basically no Gov left. Everyone had gone inactive. I had asked for people to step up and get involved, and no one did, including Horus. The final nail in the coffin was ATG hacking the forums and deleting everything. 

     

    But yea Horus, go around telling whatever cute little tale you’d like. Maybe if more people from R&R stepped up and helped out, you know, like yourself, we’d still be around

    🙄 I simply told the truth, in my perspective. Not badmouthing.

    You said you wanted people to step up. I encouraged that. I also said, you could have also stepped down where that may be necessary. That may entail dispatching a new government as a part of that. Somehow you refused to see to it, choosing to argue. It didn't have to mean the downfall of the alliance. Even at that suggestion, you were the one badmouthing me with that idea, later implementing a vote to disband, rather than a vote on new agreements to change the alliance. So, how in Bob did you expect people to step up after that? Did you completely lose faith in the alliance? It sure sounded like it.

    You conveniently forced your hand with stepping down because of the disbandment, instead of just simply letting it be. It wasn't like that had to be your only option. That's when the chips fell. What you said then, and what you did are at odds with each other. I most resented that it makes you appear to be a hypocrite after I held you in high regard, more so than you realize.

    A great leader would not have told people to jump ship. A great leader would not have just given up on the alliance. I had faith in the wisdom and power of the government I was loyal to in believing they knew the means to fix such problems. So much so, that was part of why I still use the AA. I don't pretend to speak for others, but apparently there is a special reason they still use the AA even today. Maybe I was lied to for believing that. Either way, I had no position in the gov, yet I cared enough to be involved in that conversation to brainstorm ways that can help, yet I was basically shut out, ultimately rejected. So, please don't tell me I didn't even try to step up. You (still) didn't try to listen.

  6. Must be too long for me to remember. Strange. I can't say I can put my finger on it. I've been here for almost 9 years. Must have been before my time, because all the recent messages about him have nothing to do with R&R. You sure you're not thinking of someone else?

  7. 4 hours ago, Tevron said:

    Horus, if what you said is true, and R&R really was still a legitimate alliance, then they would have created a new government, kicked DS and not disbanded. Because of the huge levels of inactivity and apathy, it's clear that DS made the right choice.

    Because it was actually suggested in the first place things could have been changed, or that he could have rescinded (like I said I suggested), but it was met with an "f-you" from him. See, he didn't allow those options to be on the table with the faith that other people could have taken over. Instead, he decided to swing the axe, and quit anyway, along with people who followed.

    So, how was that the "right" choice, given it was available in the first place, but refuses to implement it? He didn't give the alliance a chance and instead, as leader, decided the other course of action where many had followed.

  8. 2 hours ago, The Zigur said:

    I am one who advocated for the Casus Belli, lawful defensive warfare, and the defense of civilization. Over time, the great Aftermath civilization dwindled due to barbarian attacks, until finally the violent became supreme and we arrived where we are today.

    Which is not what happened here, but good try.

  9. 26 minutes ago, Maelstrom Vortex said:

    I can understand clinging to your principles. You do not think any alliance out there still represents your values that is active?

    Funny enough, I actually did receive messages of support, although I didn't care about aid (bounced back on my own anyway). Life is Strange.

     

    R&R apparently was worth something.

  10. 13 hours ago, Ethereum said:

    Knights of Ni are a good bunch; I'm glad I joined & they'd welcome of more. Even we don't go out of our way to recruit much. Join us. Sure someone can get you an aid package and tech deals if you need.

     

    Although when you're in a dead alliance, not much anyone can do. Good luck, others would be welcome to join as well. Although we're a Red Team alliance, but we could some more people to help fill some trade circles for a newer member.🍺

    No, there's nothing much you can do as this ended over a month ago.

  11. 12 hours ago, Monster said:

    That's where you're wrong. R&R had been dead for quite some time. It was the best move DemonSpawn could make given the inactivity rampant there. Its best days when it used to compete with the big boys recruitment wise had long passed and it was just keeping on for no reason.

    I've been a member of R&R for a LONG time, so never tell me I'm wrong. You have no idea what actually transpired.

     

    As I explained to Franz, we have never had a charter that forced everyone do certain things. Participation was actually voluntary, by rule, when it comes to internal affairs. The one requisite mainly that was expected was participation in war in case it was needed, for ourselves and/or our allies. DemonSpawn was having trouble coming to terms with that concept for a long time, and was fed up himself with, and I quote, "hand holding". He was trying to micromanage while extending himself unreasonably.

     

    Instead of just simply quitting himself, or recusing himself from taking the position again, he took it upon himself to start a vote, and people quit anyway thinking it was over. There was technically no 2/3rds GA vote. He went all the way to make that announcement after that, and the forum was effectively shut down.

     

    That is what actually happened. I stuck with the AA because I believed in it's original values.

  12. On 8/7/2018 at 5:15 PM, Maelstrom Vortex said:

    Unless you're driving for recruitment and trying to grow again Horus you should really reconsider a new home to spare you from the raiders, or at least look into being someone's protectorate.

    Weren't driving for recruitment at all.

  13. 10 hours ago, The Zigur said:

     

    So are you saying you are good at rationalizing the failures of primitive cultures? Otherwise I'm not sure what your point is. 

    They don't get rationalized. They get understood. That's how you do well with politics, and in your case, to make better arguments.

     

    Arguments of which you are losing.

  14. 1 hour ago, The Zigur said:

    I was literally discussing the nature of casualty worship; casualties come from warring other nations.

    LOL

    I've dabbled in anthropological studies. You have no idea what you're talking about. Once again, trying the "gotcha" thing while trying to be clever about nonsensical issues.

  15. 2 hours ago, The Zigur said:

    Speaking out against evil people in power makes enemies.

    Speaking out, or insulting them? There is a difference. Last time I asked for a change of leadership, I didn't get into the position you are in. You're the one making an enemy of yourself, not them.

     

    2 hours ago, The Zigur said:

    It is better to live one day as a lion than a hundred as a sheep.

    More like wolf in sheep's clothing, a false prophet if I ever met one.

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