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[quote name='Quiziotle' timestamp='1289890702' post='2514278'] Unless you believe that we conspired to have the NPO censor or otherwise create problems for our diplomats, I fail to see how we can be held accountable for inciting this dispute. [/quote] That isn't the belief that I hold. Rather, I feel this topic was not necessary. This issue is completely between MK and NPO. While MK did not start (or perhaps did, I don't really care) this dispute, this thread simply amplifies the drama caused. I highly doubt something was made from nothing for no underlying reason. Considering recent PR issues, it's easy to guess at what the underlying reason would be.

[quote name='Bloodjewel' timestamp='1289888933' post='2514217'] NPO built itself around drama. This appears to be just an attempt to get back to its roots. [/quote] Interesting how this drama is being made by some other alliance, don't you think? It's also interesting when one thinks of the possibility that this is just an attempt to pass the bad-PR-ball. Also, I second Dochartaigh: [quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1289889079' post='2514220'] I am curious as to what was edited and what it was edited to as well. because since only 2 were booted, it seems there is much more to this story than MK is telling. [/quote]

[quote name='Sentinal' timestamp='1289888271' post='2514195'] Oh everyone needs to stop being so dramatic. [/quote] What's the fun in that? Interesting, nevertheless.

That was rather quick. Regardless, congratulations on peace.

[quote name='Uralica' timestamp='1289111665' post='2504790'] No aid? Bummer. I was gonna help Alex rebuild. Ah well. I guess that can wait. Otherwise, I don't have much of a problem, even though ZIing Batallion might not do anything in the long run except leave him more miffed than he already is. We'll have to wait and see, I guess. [/quote] Unless I'm mistaken. The "No aid to AcTi Nations" means that people under the "Sirius PoW" AA may not aid AcTi Nations. Although, even if aiding people under "Sirius PoW" is allowed then one would need to be sure not to aid someone who will just bounce back into the conflict. I am, of course, not a member or official in any way of Sirius.

Best of luck to you all. [quote name='Zorn1' timestamp='1288744174' post='2500244'] Good Luck guys. You have the knowledge and the fortitude to do well, and for the heartache you caused me you better Also, take care of my Stonehouse or I will nuke you all myself Lastly, Polo [/quote] I can second this.

[quote name='Michael von Prussia' timestamp='1288583312' post='2498702'] Plagiarism is plagiarism. [/quote] Would things be better if they added that treaty as a citation? It is far from a big deal. Congratulations to NsO and AOD Brigade.

[quote name='Sentinal' timestamp='1287906098' post='2491888'] And this evil fellow called "RL" who has been taking away so many inhabitants of Planet Bob. Someone should jump him. [/quote] Indeed. The two of them combined would confuse anyone. Although, as the theory goes, it's Random's fault that this "RL" fellow exists. As a side note: It's also interesting to see that group break off. I also suspected that would eventually happen a while ago but I could never figure out how it would happen or precisely who would be involved. Good to see nothing too catastrophic (or so I hope) happened with it.

[quote name='DictatatorDan' timestamp='1287899357' post='2491833'] [Cut to avoid a huge post] [/quote] Don't stop there, the leprechauns might eat you. As for the actual topic: It's sad to see Penguin go, but I can understand his reasoning. To be honest I knew this would eventually happen as unfortunate as it may be. However, I am pleased to see Random become the new emperor. Best of luck Random, and Polaris. ...was probably Random's fault that Penguin had to leave

[quote name='BloodFury' timestamp='1286681068' post='2480111'] I highly dislike you right now. [/quote] For agreeing with you? All I did was dispute your explanation and give a better one. </3 Edit: Clarification. We agree that the argument is stupid. We agree people fight to win. We seem to disagree on if honour is an actuality or not. I say maybe, you seem to say no.

[quote name='BloodFury' timestamp='1286675985' post='2480051'] To best sum this up as quickly as possible to end all this stupid bickering. There is no Honor in war or fighting. You fight to win, and you win by doing whatever it takes to win. [/quote] Your claim proves nothing. You said that there is no honour in fighting, then jumped to the reason of fighting, not the attributes of fighting. Now the fix. [quote name='BloodFury' timestamp='1286675985' post='2480051'] To best sum this up as quickly as possible to end all this stupid bickering. [/quote] The fact is that the closest thing you can have to "honour" is "loyalty". In part, to have loyalty is to have honour (at least to the side you're on). This is largely because honour means to have integrity. Yes, people fight to win, and to have fun, but that does not negate any honour that might be associated to the fighting. Calling in allies isn't dishonourable, nor is it really honourable. It's dishonourable if an alliance claims they won't call in help, then does. It's perfectly "honourable" to call in help when it would be expected. In this case it can be debated; but in the end it will be seen as honourable unless you're extremely naive. Why? MD(+A/oA)P treaties are created to guarantee defence. Note the "Mutual". To avoid a lengthy post. Both sides have honour, albeit in slightly different ways. Each side views the other differently which is always the case in any argument. However, unless one side shows a severe lack of integrity, then neither is really "dishonourable". To be honest, I can't truthfully say either side is Honourable or Dishonourable; and I'm fighting in it. It's a war, just like any other. For the same reasons as any other (just cut to the cause instead of behind ramblings of nothing). As to is the drama. It always happens and hopefully always will.

We look destruction in the face and still move forward. We have, and will stick together. Can the same be said about you; or will you hide behind allies? Stats may be fun, but honour and brotherhood are vastly superior.

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