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That's all I needed to See. Job well done OP/TPC. Keep it up.

Some things work surprisingly well together Take the grilled peanut butter, bacon and banana sandwich. Elvis made it famous and many folks are probably afraid to even try it. or.... Honeydew Melon wrapped in Prosciutto I don't like honeydew at all, but if you haven't tried this combo....you are not living life to the fullest. How about beer and peanut m&m's? If you haven't had it (and of course are of legal age to do so) you need to. Enough of the food talk though. TPC and OP have a long history, and most of it may NOT fall directly into the 'goes well together' category. However, we've always had fun despite our differences and always had a mutual respect which does go very well together. Well, tonight, we're mixing the beer, bacon, honeydew, nukes, tanks, and everything else and letting it rip. Sometimes you reap what you sow, and Avengers need some of our attention. OP and TPC DECLARE WAR on the Avengers.

Your empathy makes this all so much better. What a joke. IF you had declared on the same targets on WED or Thurs night prior to us getting involved in war, this would be a non-issue. It's a classless, doucher move no matter what nice spin you try to put on it.

Brilliant... It's the rest of TE's fault that they pulled a D-bag move. They had PLENTY of opportunity to hit any number of targets prior to this. They wanted to be amply large and comfortable prior to hitting anyone anyone (which is understandable, as others were doing it too) but the 'We're too big to hit anyone' excuse has been exhausted many times.

So... You go into a war that you KNOW you will crush your opponents who are at war AND are signifcantly smaller than you, which will only make that gap larger when you can't be touched. The fact that you even try to justify this is simply insulting. Go sell your BS elsewhere.

COMPLETE scumbag move. Be sure to pat yourselves on the back for doing such a good job and being so tough.

AGAIN!!!!!

We tried a war a few days ago, but it didn't work out due to our target going into war, so here we go again. Lots of idioms and phrases come to mind.... BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. This one dates back to 1941 WWII, stemming from an editorial cartoon of all things, but referring to an engineer's need to re-design something when it goes wrong. BACK TO SQUARE ONE This one goes back to the 1950's anyway and most likely comes from either the children's game Snakes and Ladders or Hopscotch. [slightly creepier than the more Americanized 'chutes and ladders' I remember from my youth] or how about... START FROM SCRATCH NOT THIS Rather, this is generally attributed to the sports world, where a line would be scratched into the dirt to serve as a starting line and then the slower runner would be given a head start and the presumed favorite would 'start from scratch'. Anyway, getting back to task - we're going back to war. ORDO PARADOXIA HEREBY DECLARES WAR ON NDO

I do have birthdays every year. ... Maybe I did re - gift myself a war in my old age.

As to not interfere....OP will peace out the CItadel Wars. There were limited attacks as some folks held off when they saw the wars. Good luck to all. I guess I'll get myself something different.

well it looks as though Citadel is hitting WD tonight. Peeing on my birthday parade.

Generally speaking, I like holidays. There's a lot of reasons to like Halloween. Candy Fun Costumes Carving Pumpkins Oh I could go on and on..... The best part about Halloween for me is that it also happens to be my birthday. [insert overused 'wearing your mask all year' joke here.] We've done some fun things over the years, but this year, I'm declaring a War as a present to myself. ORDO PARADOXIA DECLARES WAR UPON CITADEL

Be sure to send D1 a thank you card. Did you check with the D1 guys to be sure they'd be available to cover for you again?

Duly punished strongly due to your bringing in the reinforcements? Historically reinforcements have only been utilized in the event of a curbstomp. (Remember the months of crying after the op/re/le battle many rounds ago?....Just sayin). As far as low goes....perhaps folks in glass houses should not throw rocks.

I get your point very clearly. The vast majority of your top nations were out of anarchy and had collected (Not all, but most). We could not leave the other nations free....one collection they'd be right back in it fully restocked. The biggest fish to fry was clearly the top tier. Regardless of how it was done....your top tier (which was about 1/2 of your nations) was impressively STACKED. Your 'smaller' nations weren't exactly helpless either just for the record. I'm done with this issue. You are dead wrong and living in a dream world. Paul already more or less addressed this. Maybe you have never been at such a disadvantage, but sometimes even a quad is a long shot. The size advantage for our top few nations WAS that large. They brought much more to the table than the 20 nukes though. I'm confident it would have been a "good 'ol fight" as things were at the time of the declaration. Obviously you felt your guys couldn't handle it and did what you had to do. I honestly didn't anticipate you bringing in reserves, so well played I guess.

Be careful.....you are proving my point.

I disagree. Our top nations were paired against Avengers nations 3 on 3 that were significantly larger than they were (10k+ ns in some instances). Adding 3 more nations changes the scope of that war significantly. Fighting 6 significantly larger nations VERY DIFFERENT than 3. To say otherwise is simply foolish. The new nuke restrictions really are a game changer....it does not take much to work through 10 nukes. Additionally, needing the 2k infra for rebuying makes it really tough. Even after a few nukes...your nations are still large enough to buy and fly. As you can see....the nuke advantage isn't nearly as big of a factor as you may have originally thought. I burned through 8 this morning to nuke 2 nations. That was about 1/4 of our remaining nukes. I fully understand why you would want to protect your top nations. And they were certainly in a position to take some losses throughout the course of the war. OP has the same amount of nations (15) and adding 5 of any size is statistically relevant....not to mentions 5 big ones. This is a little comical (in a witty way) As $%&@'d as you may think we are....It's nothing to brag about when the scope of the war was so drastically changed with addition of the D1 nations. We will never know how it would have worked out. I haven't heard anyone say that our DoW was a curbstomp - because IT WASN'T. Sure, the timeliness with the prior war explorations was sooner than the norm and arguably a 'low blow'. The reasoning for this has been explained and I stand firm that it was necessary to have a chance to take out those larger nations....good, bad or otherwise. I'll just say that perhaps Avengers are playing the 'victim' card a little heavily here.

I have often been called simple....but isn't that what they are in the game?

First of all, this has nothing to do with WD at all. If that was the case, we would have gotten involved much earlier. I wasn't super keen on hitting when we did and as we did. Many of their nations (particularly the big ones) were out of A and rebuilt and buying nukes aready. I have no doubt if we would have waited, we were in the crosshairs next and would have been in deep crap BEING THAT WE ARE OUTSIZED NOW even though we declared under the circumstances we did.

So - just to be clear for the stat lovers out there. Prior to the blitz, Avengers had a 50k overall NS advantage as well as the edge in every other stat besides nukes. (and NO nukes have even flown yet so that advantage hasn't been exploited) Their largest nations were around 10k NS larger than ours. The recent 'reinforcements' that were brought in added an additional 100k of NS to the fray. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining....just pointing out the facts. It seems pretty clear to me that the high tier nations in Avengers must have had pretty easy wars to get to (and maintain) the size they have. Kudos to Avengers for good planning and teamwork to get things to that point I suppose. However, bringing an influx of huge nations in to fight your battles for your largest nations before they even really get hit is pretty lame. (see earlier post about only CM's being thrown at blitz - maybe this is due to being over-sized in every aspect and needing the nuke advantage to make a dent). It is unfortunate that some of the smaller Avengers nations had to be hit as well and didn't get the chance to get back on their feet after the last war..but it is part of the game. Just a little fodder to chew on when analyzing the end result of this war.

As usual? Really? Apparently the drug testing policy in your AA is not working. Nice re-write of history.

Who are these Avenger Characters and what can be done to stop them? Let's see.... 2 full wars and somehow they maintain incredible size and strength. Are they something special? They don't seem so scary.... Except for perhaps the hulk (with some help). Well....we have plenty of nukes and they seem to have plenty of pretty much everything else....so we figure we may as well have at them before they come at us. ORDO PARADOXIA DECLARES WAR ON THE AVENGERS.

Peace tonight at update. Thanks to misfits for a hard fought respectable effort. Good luck on the rebuild and rest of round.

Tonight, we're kicking off the second set of wars this round against the misfits. I don't think we've had any wars with them before and their name is intriguing, so I did a little research and basically it comes down to one of 3 origins. 1. The highly acclaimed Horror Punk band. I like all kinds of music, but I can't say know any of their tunes. They certainly have an interesting look though. They've been playing since the early 70's...so that speaks volumes. 2. Popular British Sci-fi TV program. A bunch of teens in a community service program get struck by lightning and develop super powers. I have not seen this program on my side of the pond, but it's been around for several seasons so apparently someone is watching it. or, option 3.... I referred to my old standby, the Urban Dictionary and got this: Well, we couldn't help but notice that instead of having wars when everyone else was, you guys must've been hiding on your island hoping to slide under the radar. We want you misfits.... for attacks - YES for verbal abuse -NO For war....YES ORDO PARADOXIA DECLARES WAR ON THE MISFITS.

I like the SoW in response to a DoW! Let's have some good clean fun.