Atticus

I believe you are mistaken about the priciples of Meism and Attica.

Well game is over folks, if rsox says its foolish it must be. Who needs logic or any form of an argument when rsox will just tell me what is right and wrong.

My alliance has the same rights as any to post here, what makes you think your alliance is suddenly the center of the universe? I would hope that nation strength doesn't dictate what you believe and what you don't, might doesn't make right after all. Merely stating a position and hoping you would take a second look, there is no solid action being taken here my friend.

I see no violations here. Nations must be willing to bear the consequences of attack, it is a part of the game. Even then, admin has blessed us with peace mode. Don't click 'War is an option' if all you are going to do is moan when somebody acts upon that option.

Starting to crack, eh? Attica rides on!

Is this perhaps what you were looking for? http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=73753

Sure.

Announcement from Attica Attican has recently been pondering the situation involving Athens, Federation of Buccaneers, and The Knights of Ni!, where members of Athens and FoB declared war on 40 Ni! nations. Many of the critics of Athens claim the war is unjust, based on what is something Attica would love an answer to, and that this was clearly not a raid, but a full on war. We at Attica fully disagree with these sentiments and would like to take this opportunity to perhaps open your mind to questioning your position. Alliances should not have to seek permission or acceptance from whatever the mood of the masses are and their defitions of what is moral action. Freedom must be restored to the Cyberverse and it is alliances such as Athens and FoB that are on the frontlines fighting to restore it. Athens has a right as a sovereign entity to do whatever it feels like, bearing the consequences of course. The declare war button was established in the game for a reason and if some players want to put emphasis on that aspect of the game, you shouldn't say its immoral just because its not how you play. Of course, us folks at Attica would argue these points further to point out that imposition of your morality on others is foolish. Universal morality truths, whatever they may be, do not exist and we shall do everything in our power to stop people from claiming them as a source of power. To demonization of war is a truley frightening movement and the consequences are starting to be felt. We have Athens in our hearts and any alliance that launches attacks on her will surely meet our blade. That is all.

Attica sends her best to the forces of Mushroom Kingdom in their defense of Athens, however much we may be in disagreement with her disapproval of Athens action.

Very.

The Moralist critics fear your freedom Athens, deny them the pleasure of your demise. Stay strong, sympathy rides high with you even in the darkest corners of Planet Bob. Pay them no mind, they are not Athenians nor friends. You owe nothing to them, never forget that. Why must we feel it neccisary to prove yourself moral in the eyes of the mobs that rule Bob these days. Run with your freedom Athens, run to the frontlines of the fight against the fakeness of Morality.

Pardon me sir, but do I look like I am joking? The Moralist threat is real, the battle cries of Attican legions are real, the holy dreams of a grand Meist society are real! Attica rides on!

The policy is nice and all, but this would appear to be an internal issue between the government and your membership. Unless of course this is just a political move, but I know the good folks in Athens are above that.

Attica hereby recognizes your declaration and raises you double.

I bring forth the 3rd Testament of Attica, and so it said: Surrender yourself to the grawnd Meist State of Attica and let your mind wander free from the borders of old! The Moralists cannot defeat the people united, united for Attica!!!! Attica rides on!!!

Don't get me started...

Death to the Moralists and such.

Your support is noted sir, thank you.

Attica supports Athens and the Federation of Buccaneers on their recent conquests against the Knights of Ni! It appears to me that people are starting to open their eyes and see the chains of morality that contain your hearts desire. Be free citizens of Planet Bob, experience the joy and fun you once knew. You cannto run from it, the forces of Morality will meet their end. The status quo wants you to bend to their invisible rules of morality, do not accept it! Meism will live forever!

Perfect. --------- As for the response from The Moralist Front, Villien, sir, you must understand that Attica is eternally commited to your alliances complete destruction. That being said, we accept your proposal of expressing our mutual hate through tech deals. Your petty moralist buisness standards will proove to benefit us exponentionally over the coming weeks of bloody war. We cannot, however, leave our sacred home on the Brown sphere. The fight continues, with more fevor and passion then ever before. Down with The Moralist Front! Hail Attica!

Indeed, the evidence is there. They started an aggressive and unprovoked war, and precident tells us that actions of that sort are usually condemned as immoral. The moral scum condtradicts istelf as well, long live Attica! Unless of course they hae recently adopted true Meist beliefs....

2nd Testament of Attica In accordance to the priciples of Attica and The Most Holy Doctrine, Attica finds itself in a state of eternal war with the alliance 'The Moralist Front.' May they tremble in the face of our might. That is all.

In correspondence with The Holy Doctrine of Meism I humbly present.... Attica The Meist State of Attica At long last my brothers, we have found a home for our enlightened community free from the persecution of the Moralist scum. Now we can congregate to the sacred promised land on the Brown team with the full blown force of Meism behind us. An alliance among our diverse peoples will allow us to fully develop into the most united and aggressive fighting unit ever to have blessed the Cyberverse. This is our calling men of honor! Today marks the beginning of the rest of the history of Planet Bob! I call my brothers to arms against the dominance of Moralists! Heed our creed: Let our foes cringe at our might foundations and our foes scatter at the shining light of hope we shine over the lands. So praised be to the admin gods for we have arrived at last to bring upon salvation to the blind, sick, and defeated! Under our banner rides the legions of men with the honor, courage, and valor to stand up to the masses of the ruling powers and the chains of morality they imprison us all with. For too long have we shrunk in the face of darkness and lost all sense of enlightenment. But no longer! Attica is Born!

I am Atticus, who are you? There is no imposition of universal morality in the above. Indeed my friend, if you truley came to understand the principles outlined in the doctrine you would find that we agree on many of the same principles. Meism is a movement against the universal moral truths that seem to have been placed on our contained society. Instead we proclaim a form of self morality, where all actions stem from ones one interests. It is, however, important to note that one should not try to impose ones own interests or morals on any other being. Blacky, you draw too many conclusions. Meism advocates the promotion of the self and grants you the freedom to do whatever you desire. You and only you have the right to determine what you should and should not do, draw your own lines that you don't cross. Do not let the individuals with the most power prescibe you to follow their rules.

It was intentional, I assure you.