King Louis the II

Excellent job.

You are trying to be deep and you are just embarrassing yourself. Add: sorry for the double post.

yes because internoptional hates to attack from an advantage right? Hypocrisy at its best. Well you cant expect something different from a band of cowards.

1- Don' t care, not the subject. Just show you dont have anything else to say. 2,3,4 You can keep saying this all you want. The fact that they hold records and that most people know them as nations that at one time or the other were the most powerful this is already history. You may like or not. 5- It is a minority of nations that can do over 1,000 damage with a single nuke. Added: By the way, I deleted and came back only to have the pleasure to see Umbrella and ODN demise. I am not in Sparta and probably will delete again after this war.

I dont think you had the same opinion when alexandros play a major role against Liquid Mercury and Genovia in bipolar war. You can say whatever you want but people like Alexandros, Liquid Mercury, Hime themis, O ya baby are part of CN history and alone had made more damage than single micro alliances. Others of course make history by being the major players (Ivan Moldavi, Xiphosis, Archon, Grub, Londo, Van Hoo, Sardonic. Etc... Edit add: And he is right, Cataduanes can not say the same, he is not in neither of the 2 categories cited above. Add 2. I think the tee was a Prize for CT.

I actually agree with you that the statement "they always let their allies burn" is not false. You can repeat it many times and will still be true.

VE seems to be always lost... Good luck...................but not much. :)

Goons are very interesting. They have the most despicable friends, but they can still be cool. it is like an arctic fox rolling in the mud and staying white...

Well I have heard from INT many times in the past that they hate MK. Not difficult to have logs. however at the end of the day they always let their allies (outside of C&G) burn. you are right, I don't like TLR but at least they are more coherent. Edit: Sorry for the double (drunk) post.

Quote for truth... o/ Dajobo!

you are really desperate arent you? O/ NEW

There are several alliances that are not listed as reserves for the equilibrium as well such as guru order, crap, alpha omega, UPN etc...

Well, I don't like you GATO, but it is undeniable that this was a classy and cool DOW.

To tell the truth RV was way more entertaining in his NSO times...

gremlins is one my favorite alliances... Nice to see that....

Good read it would be good to see the same numbers in a couple of days.

[quote name='hobbies0310' timestamp='1358812306' post='3082666'] So its convenient for us to choose to defend our allies against the rest of bob which will probably get us rolled? Should we have chosen to ignore our treaty obligations prophet Louis? Please enlighten me oh great and experienced one on what we should have done as you know all. [/quote] I am not telling what you should or shouldn't do. You were actually right in defend your allies. Your problem is that your history was made by ignoring your treaty obligations

[quote name='OsRavan' timestamp='1358805883' post='3082602'] Ok 1) You do realize that if we didnt defend our allies (something we have done in every war since ive been here by the bye) THAT would be optional? 2) You clearly have no idea what the word optional means or where the term originated from. I think the word you are *reaching* for (though also not accurate) is lapdog. Im not even joking.... go look up the word optional in a dictionary. 3) Your obsession to try and par down a complex and give and take relationship to a one word pr slogan does not in fact help you look smarter. 4) ODN and NATO intend to enjoy our fight together. Since literally everyone involved in this war seems content with nuking each other and accepting of how things have fallen out, and seems to feel their enemies are honorable opponents... what exactly is your issue? [/quote] So the word is lapdog? Read it again, actually that was not a shot that I wanted to take. When I mentioned MK I actually said that that was not the point. Optional because what you guys do is to pick what treaty to honour based on convenience. Regarding NATO, yes you are right. I dont have any issue (even if I had who cares).

[quote name='shahenshah' timestamp='1358793778' post='3082457'] Stupid to use 'optional' joke over this, have a fun fight. [/quote] Not really. The optional doesn't mean to avoid fights. ODN just do whatever they (or MK, C&G, but not the point) want despite treaties. Thats what the optional means. This was true years ago and is still true now.

[quote name='Tiggah' timestamp='1358772542' post='3082155'] I was in Valhalla during the "Optional" era, so.. I spent most of my time mocking this alliance when it was still cool to do so. You missed the boat and you're not looking so cool in your dinghy. [/quote] Interesting what a coincidence, you joined ODN and the "Optional era" ended... ODN never was so optional than last years. Same for internoptional. In this war it is a little different since ODN's sugardad (MK) needed their b&$&h as a meatshield.

Optional defense network only acts when they have no option...

[quote name='Laslo Kenez' timestamp='1358602021' post='3079868'] A couple of months ago I said that NPO were a terrible ally to GATO because they would jump at a chance to to start a war with CnG allies. Brehon angrily denied it, but hey, it's two months later and I'm right and he's wrong. [/quote] Sure.... Because the likes of ODN and Umbrella would never do the same thing right....and of course GATO, who was close to treaty sparta (at least they let us believe so), would never have done that... Hypocrisy at its best

[quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1358571399' post='3079578'] This is where I normally post "but . . . you . . ." at this rate you usually just reply "At least I can admit I'm a snake." So. We'll just do this instead. Okay? [/quote] What ? JA calling someone a snake???? You made me spit my beer... And hi Myth...

it is so sweet to see umbrella burn.... I even came back from death to see this. How umbrella changed after Roquentin times. Time to pay for your betrayals and manipulations. MK's favorite puppet is going down and will dragg their masters too...

Nicely done. Doxa PAcifica Doxa Sparta As a veteran of the 10.10.10 I can say it is a honor to share the battlefield with you