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[quote name='berbers' timestamp='1340228239' post='2990543'] Hopefully another AA stronger than you doesn't let her on their applicant AA... [/quote] yeah well that's always a precaution you have to take when DEFENDING YOUR ALLIANCE FROM CLICKING ON LINKS ON IRC. Such a crime must go punished, and thankfully the factions of MK have agreed to do this job themselves.

[quote name='xoindotnler' timestamp='1340228053' post='2990537'] "Spying not tolerated, well only if we don't do it." [/quote] there is accepting screenshots, and there is accepting screenshots of shoe event horizon. one requires a higher degree of punishment

Spies, in [i]my[/i] alliance?

[quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1340216748' post='2990326'] I infiltrated of my own accord, mostly for lulz. Then TPF, my protectors at the time, directed me to the top level leadership circles to reveal my information to those present (I guess as an independent agent, because, as you all know, all alliances accept information) in an attempt to construct a CB. No, I don't really agree with what I did back then. It was a moral error of mine. But I can tell you that our CB back then looks ethically pristine when compared to this garbage. We actually had something of mass, even if we had to dig deep for it. [/quote] lj scott, is that you?

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1340180268' post='2989887'] A bit early to be giving out terms or asking for them. [/quote] we've already had a large number of people request terms actually. it's because the inactives etc didn't get the chance to go into PM, this often happens in these pre-empts. one of my guys doesn't appear to have logged in yet. [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1340173830' post='2989848'] Yeah, well, you would say this because you long since spent all the PR capital you had. There is no value in it for you. There is, however, new value in it for me, as it allows me to point out your historical lies and demonstrate that MK is and has always been, objectively, garbage. We can't move past that. We still live in the MK-dominated post-Karma era. And all the !@#$ we always said would happen has, unsurprisingly, come to pass. Over and over and over again. [/quote] the post-karma era must be longer than the pre-karma era by now.

[quote name='killjoy123' timestamp='1340167881' post='2989760'] I got half a mind to join CSN and kick the !@#$ out of MK's !@#$% lower tier. [/quote] hmm, maybe we should rethink those terms...

[quote name='Epiphanus' timestamp='1340167459' post='2989743'] I need a member of MK to link me to this thread so I can give it my full support. [/quote] spies, in [i]my[/i] alliance?

[quote name='Emperor Whimsical' timestamp='1340167220' post='2989724'] Last time you said Everyone.Must.Die. You ended up giving them terms. [/quote] we said every[i]thing[/i] must die

NOW you've gone too far

[quote name='King Louis the II' timestamp='1340077069' post='2988395'] I know that you are too stupid to count but we have less nations on PM than MK. [/quote] there are (currently) 242 differences between our situations.

[quote name='TimLee' timestamp='1340074728' post='2988179'] Article II of Complaints & Grievances Union with TLR [/quote] the best one.

[quote name='Viluin' timestamp='1340024816' post='2987574'] PS: I have 6 billion dollars, but it seems like a waste of time to fight a solo war for that long. [/quote] 6b is heaps yo, you could attack them for !@#$@#$ ages lol

[quote name='Enamel32' timestamp='1339996677' post='2987267'] Nice of you to say that about your former ally. It's good to know how you truly feel. I expected a bit more from a person in your position. Then again, Umb government doesn't speak for umb, so perhaps I should cut you slack and hold the general membership to higher standards. [/quote] yeah only raken thinks you're !@#$. i can vouch for the fact that the rest of umbrella speaks very highly of you.

[quote name='Starfox101' timestamp='1339917253' post='2986353'] Or just you know, any stage of politics before this. [/quote] nope. mk did this in the previous two global wars (v MHA, although that one may have gone global anyway tbf and v NPO to get that war started). it happened in the build-up to TOP-C&G too. that's over half of this planet's existence, and you'd have to be an idiot to claim this sort of thing didn't happen before then too, just under a shiny veneer of faux-moral legitimacy. [quote name='Starfox101' timestamp='1339917253' post='2986353'] Turning the game into a lulz game where people just attack eachother for nothing will signify a quick demise of the world. I don't think too much fun will be had beating on smaller alliances forever, and gloating about how much tech you have. I don't think people get what I'm arguing against. It's not war, it's that there was no reason for war, no politics involved, and no build up. [/quote] i don't think you'll find anyone in mk has an issue with this world dying, if we can quicken the process then we'll be happy.

[quote name='NuclearGlow' timestamp='1339908903' post='2986280'] No, it's just the politics behind all of this is a joke. I've been around the game for a long time (the game, by the way), and although I've seen some intense wars, I've just decided that the politics behind this game isn't worth keeping up with anymore. Especially when wars are declared over things like this. I remember Karma, Karma was a REAL war with real precedent and reason... This... This is a joke. [/quote] no in karma you were on the winning side and so you thought it was justifiable. karma's constructed cb was made by a group of dissatisfied opportunists (who used to be friends with the npo), some moral garbage cover about screenshots and moo's bad irc connection.

[quote name='Starfox101' timestamp='1339901978' post='2986192'] So, you admit that the MK CB on CSN was fabricated to start a global war? [/quote] yawn. of course it was a constructed cb. as was the one we used in the last war against mha et al, and the one where we attacked the npo and ve attacked polaris. the one athens used on tpf, the one top used on c&g. as was the one we all used in karma, and the one used against hyperion in 'nocb.' and i can't evenn really remember the cbs used in the global wars before that but i imagine they were just as !@#$. ooc: it's a game and mk and pretty much everyone in power no longer feel constrained by the rules the npo and friends made in 2006-2007 regarding how the game works. the question is 'who has more power' and right now, we do. if we limited ourselves to so-called 'just' wars with legitimate cbs then no large wars would have happened since, what, gw1? e: tbh i don't know why i bothered replying as everyone here knows what i've just said. it's just you're just circle jerking to some faux-moral !@#$%^&* and clinging on to some sort of outdated rule set which died a long time ago, and we're just laughing at you all.

[quote name='Starfox101' timestamp='1339905532' post='2986235'] the good guys[/quote] oh please, we publicly said we don't recognise 'good' and 'bad' in 2010. anyone still trying to justify their actions using some sort of moral framework is still engaging in karma-era politics.

[quote name='King Irwin' timestamp='1339899338' post='2986144'] So thanks for clarifying that this is officially approved by Umbrella. [/quote] yeah you won the moral war.

it's hilarious that people still cling on to the concept of a 'recognised' cb. i can't think of of a proper war started in the last 4 years that has had one. the small ones do, that's why they stay small. if you want to go global, you don't want a traditional cb.

[quote name='Lizardo' timestamp='1339885988' post='2986007'] 03/31/2011 - 19,937 Nations 05/31/2011 - 18,966 Nations 07/04/2011 - 17,999 Nations 09/02/2011 - 16,994 Nations 10/26/2011 - 15,994 Nations 03/01/2012 - 14,995 Nations 06/16/2012 - 13,894 Nations [/quote] all according to plan

[quote name='RedPhx' timestamp='1339886179' post='2986009'] Both are Doomhouse and both declared on an alliance that they don't like very much. And besides the only one to criticize the CB was in the Deino's DOI which if I understand correctly says that they are still going to help Umbrella. [/quote] Deinos will regret the day they wrote that DOI. They are next.

[quote name='Kankou' timestamp='1339870601' post='2985858'] Also, now [i]Guns, Germs, and Steel[/i] is racist? [/quote] idgaf about your little spats, but that is not what that book advocated at all and it's rather disturbing that you think it is considering the similar mis-reading of a certain nietzsche text.

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1339875229' post='2985900'] You accepted a nation on a ZI list - which he earned and admitted he earned - then used the method of ZIing him as a bs excuse for a war. But we've gone back and forth on this many times, and other than MK and a few allies, I think it's pretty obvious that most people know the truth. I do wish y'all had sack enough to admit that truth though. Umbrella sucks almost as bad as you do, but at least they were honest. Your reason is the same as theirs. [/quote] our reason is saving the defenseless from injustice using our honour and loyalty

[quote name='King Puffington' timestamp='1339829738' post='2985681'] yeah it really helps after you have been zealed [/quote] he'll be 100% pure newly zealed

[quote name='RedPhx' timestamp='1339828279' post='2985665'] Honest question here. Suppose a spy like Rovatele had gone into the Mushroom Kingdom and gave someone else information (leaving Dave93 completely out of this scenario and using Rovatele since there is not much arguing about what he did), how would the courts have decided in worse case scenario of conviction about how to handle it? [/quote] it depends on which court hears the case, can you please be more specific? we take our judicial system very seriously in mk.