Altheus
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Your alliance structure is more reminiscent to me of social anarchism than libertarianism, but it wouldn't be very liberal of us to give you a hard time over that :P
Good luck
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9 vs 4 and we're still winning 0 Anarchies vs 5. Thanks for the tech :P
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The GGA is strong in me? Well I would certainly hope so!
Let's keep this about GATO though, shall we?
Welcome back. How much do you know about what happened to GGA since you left it? :P
Congratulations to GATO for your new government line-up
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Wow, long time no see and after all these years I'm glad you still remember us, even if it's only for infamy.
We're basically retired ourselves, so don't hold anything I say against current UPN, which is an entirely new animal, far more professional and competant than I ever was. (If you're curious check us out, you joining UPN would surely set tongues wagging for months) ;)
It came down to this, if you were ever curious, I really didn't like superfriends and had ambitions to set up CDT as a rival bloc, partly because I thought giving focus to CDT was what it needed and partly because everyone needs a hobby. The execution though was hopeless, for a whole host of reasons: too few people were behind the plan, we were too small, we we took you on when you had better contacts, CDT wasn't remotely united etc. i.e. Total failure and SF smashed us, but it was a lot of fun trying.
Were did Ragnarok fit into that? Well, Ragnarok being a member of both blocs wasn't going to work for me, so yes, I did push for Rok's removal from CDT. Perhaps not wise given your growing influence, but heh. Was it personal? No, not from this end, we hardly ever talked so tbh it was hard to form an opinion. We just decided to go after SF in general rather than try and find out if you were actually nice people or not. (Which I'm sure many of you were!)
The sad thing was I really cared about CDT and wanted to make it work, but looking back I was probably the main architect of it's failure, but that had less to do with anything SF did and more to do with juggling an ill-conceived foreign affairs policy based on too many treaties leading out of the bloc.
Anyway. I should attempt to answer your accusation ;) Was UPN/USN (as you put it) a bad alliance? Actually, foreign affairs-wise, yes I think we were. We spent too much time worrying about CDT, what SF was doing and keeping all our numerous allies happy to have a remotely co-ordinated foreign policy. Also, if UPN/USN was one alliance, we disagreed about everything.
Beyond that though UPN had a wonderful recruitment team, a very solid finance team and (at the time you knew us, i.e. pre-Alchemy) a very good internal cohesion within the alliance. So strengths and weaknesses.
Anyway, love to hear from you more, especially your side of the story. In private if you'd prefer that to a open letter.
Either way, good to see you again,
Alt
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No, they were reps from your members attacking our protectorate.
Which you blew by attacking us rather than accepting them.
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6m, 1 soldier & 1 unit of technology...
The Unknown soldier will forever be remembered as a hero across all of the Non Gratan nations.
The 6 million was an outstanding loan you owed us ;)
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It's almost as if they'd sooner destroy you than impress you.
Speaking of grandstanding how does it feel to impose one-up reps on a former ally?1. They can't
2. 1 Soldier and 1 Unit of Technology. You've got a funny idea of grandstanding.
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I am extremely happy to see our allies in NG and good friends in NoR achieve peace. Shame on those of you who held them at war well after it should have ended over some petty wording. UPN and your insult reps...very bad decision.
Whatever. You don't impress me with your stats and grandstanding.
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Can I mock the fact that your sarcasm is !@#$@#$ retarded
You're overthinking this.
Apologies to Legion, for the thread steal. Congrats on a hard-fought war!
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Edit: Actually, my favourite part is how UPN let Legion get stomped on for months without intervening, but R&R declares war on TOP and UPN is on that like white on rice, within what, a day?
Might have something to do with being allied to TOP, but not Legion.
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Happy Birthday Ribena Berries
Why thank you
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Jan 2007, a month in which in a different world Steve Jobs announced the release of the 1st Generation IPhone, Bulgaria and Romania joined the EU and I recoiled in horror about how bad Epic Movie was :P
In this, far more sane world, however, UPN was born and it was a complete and utter pleasure from day 1. Seven years of really happy memories being part of a community that is frankly the sole reason that I still keep going after such a long time.
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just once... just this once it would be nice to fight upn without a deficiency of attacks and nothing but cms D:
rawr
If you're talking about our own little personal little battle, it's because I'm saving my nukes for your alliance mates without the SDI's, but don't worry, I'll save some for you ;)
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Just once, just this once, it'd be nice to fight R&R without a deluge of words thrown against us and not much else.
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Congratulations on USN finally coming to their senses and realising your divine purrfection your majesty :P
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Valhalla are pretty good at weaseling out of holes by signing treaties at the right time. Lets see who's fool enough to fall for it this time.
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activity basically = skill >_<
Fair statement. Well in that case I think both our alliances have room for improvement ;)
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CN propaganda, there's nothing else quite like it
I don't want to take anything away from anyone, but the mechanics of war on Planet Bob are a simpler affair than they're often perceived to be. Nukes hurt, war chests are a necessity, tech is really, really useful and activity trumps "skill" anyway. Also frankly most CN alliances could do with more activity.
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Fun thread :)
1) MK
2) GOONS
3)LUE
4) NAAC
5) \m/
6) Athens
7) Ragnarok
8) FOK
9) Norden Verein
10) PC
Although, I do think it's a bit of travesty that GGA aren't on this list. Their impact in the early days of CN would make them a comfortable top 5, despite their ignominious end.
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1. MK
2. GGA
3. GOONS version 1
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You've been plotting and planning this war for over 4 months now. We even knew you'd all attack for that long.
Lol, we really haven't.
But I've actually had the most fun ever, I'm pretty sure, in all my days of CN, the same night you guys declared. Ask Derwood. And my opponents are extremely well coordinated so it's mega-F5'ing fun. Last war was kind of a let down due to our opponents. TOP/Umb have not been the case and I appreciate that.
That's great! Then we're all having fun ^_^
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Come now. Lets be honest. No need to be dishonest.
You wouldn't penalize the income of your upper tier by leaving them in peace mode if it was simply "no targets left". I have never seen so many alliances so $&*#ing scared of one 8 man alliance. Well done DBDC, you are pretty awesome!
In the spirit of honesty, until you'd mentioned them now I hadn't given DBDC one moment's thought.
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Have fun and may your casualties multiply
P.S. I have copies of UPN's war flag if you would like it somewhere in my archives ;)
Thanks Grendel, you too :)
Also, here it is!
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No other comments about this minstrel show? Disappointing.
You're right of course, but I think many prefer to just ignore the obvious shortcomings of the Zulu alliances humour and hope it goes away. Personally it comes across as patronising, ill-judged and offensive,
End of a Purple Era: The retirement of the UPN
in Alliance Announcements (IC)
Posted · Edited by Altheus
Very nearly 9 years ago a small group of friends sat drinking in a pub called the Pit and Pendulum talking about what to do with this game called Cybernations they’d discovered. The sensible thing to do would have been to join an established alliance, not least so we could have discovered what the hell we were meant to do, but we were too stubborn for that.
So armed with a flag knocked up on google paint, a invision-free forum in lurid shades of lilac and lavender and bags full of enthusiasm, that only newness and novelty can bring, we set out to create our vision of the perfect Purple alliance.
We got so much wrong. We totally misjudged the crazy amount of involvement running an alliance demanded, how welcoming certain alliances would be to a new rival and the fact that really getting into the game required IRC (something which has always been a struggle due to living in UK time) It wasn’t long before the original group either stepped aside or quit, leaving only Keyring_Killer, Shade and myself to keep the flag flying. Luckily we were blessed with an influx of established players like Hans, Samo & Pimptastic and new players like Magister, Kauti & Queen Elizabeth who really formed the alliance into what it was in its glory days.
To be clear without them and so many others over the last 9 years they’d never have been a UPN. Whilst I sat back, making big announcements, taking all the cool decisions and generally getting on everyone’s nerves they got on with the business of actually making a functional and successful alliance, creating something that was simply beyond my capacity to do. Thank you to everyone that has contributed to the alliance over the years, to Seuwp, Pangui, Tecumseh, Robster, Peggy_Sue & Kevanovia for leading the alliance, to Hans, Magister, Dexomega & DonVox for leading the alliance in all but name, to our recruitment stars over the years including Abdur, Queen Elizabeth, Moondog, Ragwing & Samotopia, to Vlad & Bros for help with our forums, to Cora for so much practical help behind the scenes, to all our long suffering Ministers for running the alliance, our Allies for keeping our backs, our Enemies for entertaining us and most of all for our Members, both past and present for seeing in us something worthy to join. Thank you all for everything, the good times, the times we disagreed (which were still good times) and for making the whole journey a huge, well-loved part of my life for so long.
So where from here? Well, here’s the funny news. We’re still not disbanding, that only happens when the last member turns off the lights. We are however dissolving our government, including all our economic initiatives, foreign affairs treaties and general involvement in cybernations life. The New Polar Order, our oldest ally for over 8 years now, has kindly offered to protect us and has offered a home for those that want to be in a more active alliance.
The forums at cnupn.org will still be running, for as long as Vlad is willing. I’m tempted to see if we can’t arrange to open up the whole forums, warts and all, so that everyone can see what we’ve been up to in the past. Will get back to you about that as it obviously impacts a lot of people.
It’s crazy. This is a browser-based computer game, involving friends I’ve largely never met in person and yet somehow this all matters to me more than other, more polished, games. People talk about community as to the reason why and of course that is true, but I think there is more to it than that. Alliances, blocs, colour spheres, political movements etc. in cybernations have pathos. They have personalities of their own which are a sum-total of their members, their history and their circumstances which have nothing to do with how the game is built and everything to do with the game’s wisdom in not imposing anything on them. They are truly player generated in a way in which some more flashier games can only dream of, bearing little resemblance to mere sides in a computer game.
I’ll still be around to chat. If you’ve ever wondered about anything in our past, what we’ve done, why we’ve done them or if you just want to chat about old times then please get in touch. Nothing would make happier to talk to old friends and frenemies. Heck, I can even promise you straight answers right now!
Edit: NADC have also graciously decided to protect us indefinitely along with Polaris. Thank you.
So this is it for us. The final curtain. Thank you for all the good times
The United Purple Nations
Ribena Berry Fields Forever