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We juat did that. Polar is not the target anymore, unlike you planned. Long circle broken. But you had pacifica in mind. They have been victorious since the DH war which was in 2011 iirc. Another circle broken i guess.

I'm not sure anymore what NPO is trying to accomplish here. Are you trying to force us to explain these things to you in such detail that you yourself would love these terms? You don't like them - we don't care. You don't think they're justified - some people in the coalition that's at war with you thinks they are justified. What can you do about it - nothing. Just don't make me read tens of pages of discussion on meaning of reps and numbers on NPO nations that didn't get to PM on time.

VektorZero and Iamthey are settling old debts with Red and Gandy Poodle.

You're not seeing the big picture here. After this war is over, NPO has accepted the terms and keeps whining about them, we can simply say "We didn't come up with the terms, it was CIN* or someone" and walk away with our hands clean from the matter. Just like NPO is doing it. *CIN - no offense, you were just the smallest alliance I saw on wiki to DoW on NPO.

Oh really? There's 30+ large nations with nice WCs, capable of rebuilding that never fought on your side. In fact they're the main reason for this 17 page long topic. While on our side... Quite frankly many in TOP are out of targets. Go ahead, demonstrate the will to fight. Be the man that you and "Your Emperor" say you are.

I have a rough idea about how it hurts your allies statistically.

It's so easy to come to OWF, say how horrible we are and how you will wage war against us until there's white peace. While it's not you who's doing the fighting is it? From the total of 3 months of the war, you've sat in peace mode for the last 2 months. (Since 1st of December) [ooc]Some wise lad once said that the British fight the Germans until the last Frenchman[/ooc] This is pretty similar.

The person you keep refering to as Your Emperor with capital letters, is the same one who rage quits peace negotiations after making a lower counter offer than his Imperial Officers have made before him after which he cries on OWF. You do put a lot of faith into him.

Does this mean you'll walk away from peace negotiations. There were large cut backs made for you while you just kept spinning the ball. I wonder if anyone in NPO managed to keep a straight face when they read/wrote/suggested this line.

That polar bear cub is so adorable.

Please don't.

TOP is an aged democracy as is Umbrella.

Let the statistics speak (http://ri5.rialliance.net/warstats.php) Your alliance's damage out put is 0.64 for every damage taken. UPN has grown to 1.02. Against your alliance alone UPN does 2.08 damage per every damage taken. So if that means they have no logic I don't know where it leaves you guys.

Wow you managed to find total of 2 wars in past 4 years that Pacifica didn't cry about survival. This completely changes their imago. Also DH-NPO wasn't about killing an alliance, just beating it down. And you know that very well, weren't you in DH at the time? But yeah when ever flip flopping suits you.

Look at NPO's aid screens. They send out only troops sometimes and even with such aid they manage to use up only 67 aid slots for roughly 300 members. TOP and Umbrella each are about 3 times smaller than NPO and each use more aid slots. Not to mention Polar out performing them in aid slot usage. They don't realize they can't play the waiting game.

Why do you even bother after all these countless times? I mean it's obvious that every war for Pacifica since Karma has been for their survival, at least in their minds. Well aside Dave war maybe where they simply decided to jump the bandwagon. Nevertheless, they know no other rhetoric anymore. Look on the bright side at least we don't have to put up with baby eating jokes anymore. But I agree with you. Alot of Pacificans here haven't seen what their alliance has done or has been through after that. These terms are rather small nowadays, yet so much whining comes from it.

So you're saying in order to not discriminate you we should offer grey peace to your allies?

It's always been more or less that. Otherwhise every global war would be a cluster fuck. But the whining coalition has to do what they have to do - defend on OWF people who decided to help them out. I mean you guys would even hail TOP like crazy if we'd pull BiPolar here.

You'll be the beacon of light in the Order of Darkness. In Latin wouldn't that be Lucifer?

As the 10th alliance TOP has to fight in this war, you should get a bonus. Would you like a complimentary Umbrella?

You really need to cancel your subscription on what ever source you have.

Release the Vlad....

Comparing apples and oranges are we?

And....`? I see no reason to turn attention to that delusion, but since he's been posting for days into this topic he was my prototype for the sig when I made it. But good job dude. Like you said. Reading.