I created my first nation on the same day as Van Hoo III and his nation was only six or seven weeks old when he founded and led Ragnarok.
I myself have no interest in ever starting my own alliance. I can't see how people have the time to be in government, let alone create and found the entire shabang. My hat goes off to all of you who serve in an active government or who have created a successful alliance. Most of us are truly incapable.
Has anyone stopped and asked Echelon if they even WANTED Caffine back in government BEFORE getting worked up? I am under the impression that Echelon really didn't haggle much over this particular point.