Fernando12

Not there choice. They get turned down by top schools because they are too good. Believe it or not that is the truth. Big schools won't sign to play a home and home series against the likes of TCU or B-State. TCU now has the chance to prove themselves. B-State will have to get lucky and be unbeaten and hope others have a loss or two. Bowl games are stupid. A playoff would make regular season games more relevant and prove who the best team is. 8 team playoff I say.

What was Wisconsin? Now look at the result. Exactly, results are determined on the field and shouldn't be determined by some rigged up software the BCS uses to elevate its choice conferences and teams.

This if the courts have a say won't matter at all. Publicly funded universities getting automatic bids over other publicly funded universities? It won't stand for long and it shouldn't. The argument over finals/classes is lame. Lower division football has a playoff. Basketball has the tournament. There will be change eventually. TCU moving conferences could get them an AQ bid next year if they have the same success. Auburn is a paper tiger. The same excuses used against other teams barely winning is used to show the "resilience" of Auburn. I hope Oregon demolishes Auburn. I don't like Cam Newton and he is sure to be another Jamarcus Russell that gets his guaranteed money and doesn't give a damn after. We already know he doesn't like to study. At Florida he tried to put his name on some other guy's test. Why? Because he knows his test would fail because he didn't study. He stole a laptop. Why? So he can study and write his term papers? Yeah right, he probably wanted to sell the laptop for money. Cam and his family are all about the money. Any NFL team that invests in him will only be ripped off and deservedly so because Cam Newton is a fraud. Natural talents only take you so far. An NFL QB has to study (Cam won't).

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1293989780' post='2560915'] Could you provide links, or edit them in? [/quote] I edited them in. For, best player avatars or sigs, you should probably provide another topic where people post them otherwise many will be left blank or real good ones be left out.

[size="6"][center]CN Award Nominations [/center][/size] [size="5"][u]Alliance Awards[/u][/size] Alliance of The Year - New Pacific Order Most Powerful Alliance - Mushroom Kingdom Best Military - Umbrella Best Rookie Alliance - TENE Most Powerful Bloc - Super Friends, PB cannot be until they actually go out to play. Best Flag - Nutty North Koreans Most Active Alliance - The Order of the Paradox Most Honorable Alliance - Siberian Tiger Alliance Best Diplomatic Team - Mushroom Kingdom, they got TOP after beating them in a war, and are pretty much with PB Best Economic System - New Pacific Order Best Recruiting Staff - Mostly Harmless Alliance Best Propaganda Staff - New Pacific Order Scariest Alliance - Green Protection Agency, their top tier would decimate anybody if... Best Alliance Growth - New Pacific Order Best War Flag - Nutty North Koreans Best Forums - New Pacific Order Alliance most likley to succeed in 2011 - New Polar Order Most Immoral Alliance - GOONS [size="5"][u]Player Awards[/u][/size] Player of the Year - AlmightGrub Most Powerful Player - Archon Best Alliance Leader - Cortath Most Controversial Player - Ram Best Player Sig - Best Player Avatar - Best OOC forum poster - Nicest Player - Dajobo Funniest Player - Rebel Virginia Most Active Player - Schattenman Player Most Likely To Achieve Greatness in 2011 - Random Interrupt [u][size="5"]Community[/size][/u] Best DoW - [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=80158"]AlmightGrub DoW on TOP[/url] Best Wall of Text - [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=83465"]JonathanBrookBank's OP to kickoff the 5000+ post IRON-Gramlins topic.[/url] Best CN Meme - meow Best OWF topic - [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=83465"]JonahtanBrookBank's IRON-Gramlins topic[/url] Biggest Controversy - [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=80162"]AlmightyGrub/NpO's agreement non-agreement with Crymson/TOP, Crymson's response topic to NpO DoW on TOP[/url] Funniest Event - Most Entertaining IRC channel - Best Treaty Announcement - Best Player Quote - *will add the missing as I do some research*

[quote name='KingEd' timestamp='1293751583' post='2558671'] Just for my clarification, there are the: New Pacific Order New Polar Order New Sith Order The Imperial Order The Democratic Order (Neutral) Guru Order The Order of the Paradox? The Order of Righteous Nations? Are there any others? In any case, would it be time to bring back the [b]Ordinance of Orders[/b] back with more than just Polaris and Pacifica? [i]It would definitely be interesting, to say the least.[/i] [/quote] Octava Orden? (spanish)

The United States gets one vote, so sign me up. Ruler Name: Fernando12 Forum name(If different): N/A, same Alliance: The United States

[quote name='Xiphosis' timestamp='1293718817' post='2558275'] This is stupid and thus, entirely in line with all involved. [/quote] So an Axis of [i]The[/i] Orders and SF isn't forming Congratulations to TIO and NPO. NPO is a fine alliance. TIO are doing things right. I'm glad treaties are being signed that bring [i]The[/i] Orders closer together. I hope that they can fully reconcile and move past their differences and realize that they will be needing each other in the months to come. o/Imperia o/Pacifica o/The Orders

[quote name='Penkala' timestamp='1293599780' post='2556984'] No, but their reputation as an ally probably does mean a lot to them (and to others)... [/quote] You're right. And I hope NEW evaluate the allies that approved of 3 alliances attacking them. NEW aren't the only ones whose rep took a hit.

[quote name='Arrnea' timestamp='1293599387' post='2556967'] Also, this. I do hope WFF gets a white peace in a timely fashion now that they are all that is left in this war. Hardly. You forget the damage to NEW's PR over the foolishness that got them into this mess in the first place. [/quote] PR really matters to a forum inactive alliance

The "price" of peace is cheap for the damage that NEW inflicted. Congratulations to NEW on their victory.

[quote name='Batallion' timestamp='1293597924' post='2556927'] No, he went to FAR AA after the issuance of ZI. The attack happened when he was on the AA, but the issuance was when he was on AcTi AA and still a member. That's like someone being declared a rogue and then running onto another AA and then getting attacked while on that AA if done with quick enough speed, and then being given asylum because the alliance which declared the rogue has no backup to carry it through. Got it now pipsqueak? [/quote] He left AcTi and was going to be ZI'd for simply leaving. Not the same thing as someone being declared a rogue and jumping on another AA. You're trying to phrase things hoping everyone forgot or doesn't know your !@#$. Everyone knows and I just had a good laugh rereading the logs of you begging Sir Exodus to accept your apology. 2011 is going to be great

[quote name='Batallion' timestamp='1293597601' post='2556920'] Except Stelios was a member of AcTi and that wasn't a declaration of war on an alliance, which is a MUCH bigger deal. Try harder though Fernando, you're hilarious. [/quote] Stelios was on the Federation of Allied Republics AA when you began your attack to ZI him. !@#$ happened quick, you realized you would be rolled for attacking a FAR nation and quickly backed off.

[quote name='Batallion' timestamp='1293595279' post='2556882'] Where is the evidence of poaching, etc.? I don't understand how you expect public support for your declaration of war against United Nations without any evidence. I don't doubt it happened, but still let's keep things formal. Oh and P.S., I mean formal as in put it in the OP like everyone else usually does. [/quote][quote name='Batallion' timestamp='1293595897' post='2556894'] Okay, now also provide a timestamp, which your quote is clearly missing. The timestamp will help clarify that he was being recruited while riding the Exodus AA. [/quote] This from the guy that wanted to ZI Stelios and in his OP stated it was private then logs surfaced about Stelios having friends outside of AcTi then you attacked then you quickly backed off when you were about to be rolled. Batallion

[quote name='eirland' timestamp='1293593840' post='2556849'] http://tinyurl.com/youneedtoknow Don't believe the lies. [/quote] Who are you really? - [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=438111"]2 day old nation?[/url] So really what real disgruntled FARKer are you?

[quote name='Antoine Roquentin' timestamp='1293562656' post='2556353'] Fundamentally, what NEW did was just as much an act against anyone who was cognizant and endorsed Dark Fist's entry into Karma against them. I see it as an affront against everyone involved and if they have issues with SCM for it, then they have issues with me and Ram and other Karma operatives. That is one of the reasons why I was in support of their getting stomped. My only regret was not realizing that NEW was an alliance of dunderheads and I would have posted a protection notice myself had I the foresight to see what would happen. [/quote] Not posting an order of protection is all that is stopping you from attacking an ally of an ally? You don't need to post anything to act on what you think is right. Go ahead and attack NEW. Impero, might jump your bones though because of all the conflicting treaties that probably won't be set off.

[quote name='Vladisvok Destino' timestamp='1293578468' post='2556603'] By this same logic, there is nothing wrong with the process that was used before. There are no 'correct' results beyond what people choose to vote for, if most people choose to vote for MK (either because MK members are the ones who vote most, or because other people voted for them) then they get the award. SCY felt there was a problem with the system and so proposed a new one, people are trying to explain why the new system does not fix the supposed bias that was inherent in the old system. [/quote] So? SCY can set this one up and someone else can redo one with the old process. What's the problem?

[quote name='James I' timestamp='1293576901' post='2556573'] No. Banksy has just explained to us how he wants to suppress any element of bias built into the awards system. After this, you suggested that he rig up his own awards to get the desired results. [/quote] And what you and he do not understand is that no matter what the system and its voters someone is going to be accused of being biased. He suggests like I do to select a few players that would be impartial. Realize that it is our own bias that would deem those we select as impartial. Most likely, someone will say he or I selected so and so because of what we thought they would vote for. SCY came up with a good system, let's roll with it. Oh wait, I like SCY so of course I am biased to him and the system he came up with Seriously, work with what SCY came up with or make your own awards and do it however you like.

[quote name='augustus334' timestamp='1293567225' post='2556415'] So what we have right now are: The New Guy, AcTi, Legacy, Gondor, Exodus, Colossus, and what the heck, i'll throw in The Dark Lords. [u][b]Keep posting, if I make a poll out of this, I want it to be a fair representation of what people think.[/b][/u] [/quote] Players from MK will trash the poll, they can't hold a decent political discussion. [spoiler]Now, you can have a good poll. I have said what MK players are, so they will do the exact opposite [/spoiler]

[quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1293576442' post='2556567'] Why would I set up my own awards when i've already said I think they're stupid because of the bias? Honestly, do you think before you post? Vladisvok Destino said everything else that needs to be said. [/quote] Anything that a player not in MK says gets this type of response, it's old and boring. You guys need to realize this game isn't just about MK players. You guys need to think before you post. Make your own awards if you want the results to be rigged as usual or try working with others with the process that SCY set up and see how it goes.

[quote name='Vladisvok Destino' timestamp='1293575794' post='2556561'] Again you assume that this is MK not liking it because they might not win it, any chance of actually addressing the issue? [/quote] What issue needs to be addressed? The rules have been clearly stated in the OP. Are you guys going to assume that this process will not yield the correct results? Are there "correct" results? Try this process that SCY set up and tweak it next year if need be.

[quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1293572904' post='2556525'] There are 12 sanctioned alliances. 28 non-sanctioned sanction race alliances. Even [i]without[/i] the micros entering, that will mean there are [i]92[/i] representatives. Last year there were 400-440 people voting in the final round of voting (depending on the thread). So all you've done is reduce the pool of voters by 1/4 for 50% of the vote. By doing this, you have completely removed the entire point of an academy. An academy is supposed to be made up of knowledgeable and impartial people. You've just reduced the number of people who can vote in some sort of quasi-democracy. If you had an actual academy, you would choose ~10 well known people who could be relatively impartial. By choosing these people based on an alliance, all you've done is make it clear that people should vote with their alliance and with their biases, rather than impartially or, shocking as it is, individually like in previous years. [/quote] You're assuming people will be biased, probably because you think MK isn't going to be everyone's number one choice for everything. I think the most active CN players can be honest and impartial about how they vote on each category, give people some credit. I can think of several that are well informed enough about CN events, players, alliances, etc of 2010 that could be impartial despite perhaps not liking someone or the alliance that they would probably have to vote for if they are being honest. Myself for example would still have MK as the most powerful/influential alliance. A repeat of last year's so called "hacked" awards and even Sir Paul's Awards. Banksy, if you're so upset about the prcess why don't you all just rig up some awards and do it on your own forums so you get the wanted results.

Remove anything that is OOC. The game is about the game and not about what we do personally outside the game. Also, the alliance/player mostly likely to achieve greatness...shouldn't that be 2011 since we are closing out 2010.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1293509199' post='2555896'] Yeah, VE/PB wants to roll raiders . . . Come on, dude. [/quote] You're telling me they wouldn't jump at the chance to do something if the raiders were from an alliance they don't like? Remember, they like "defensive" wars. You all can think what you like, !@#$ from that side of the web wouldn't surprise me one bit.

[quote name='WarriorConcept' timestamp='1293504259' post='2555763'] It will be handled just as any raid would be. They would be asked to send reps and if not then we would proceed accordingly. [/quote] Proceed as in you calling in VE because your alliance can't do anything about it? geez, now I sound like babyjesus.