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[quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1294633534' post='2570733'] How are we "fail". [/quote] You are fail because you are Damsky.

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1294699833' post='2571398'] Wait, I'm confused. Aren't you one of the biggest proponents of your 'pen is mightier than the sword approach'? [/quote] Seems like it but no I'm not, let me have the reigns at Pacifica and you'll see

[quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1294626727' post='2570613'] We've done more to shake things up than anyone else. What have you done? [/quote] I'm surprised you haven't noticed all the topics and posts against the "new hegemony". Clearly all these topics and posts will eventually tear you guys down so much that no war will ever be necessary. The pen is mightier than the sword approach... I swear this world needs several FANs that just go and fight for however long it takes, this world needs something more than the boring complaint meet the new hegemony and posting against every new treaty that gets signed.

So what you are basically saying is that back in the day single alliances carried enough power to control things or at least move other alliances their way now it is the time for blocs. The Blocs of today are like large alliances of the past. Not many alliances back in early times, so now with so many alliances on bob, blocs do today what single alliances like NPO could do back then. I wasn't here back in the early days but I've seen some numbers and spreadsheets of old coalition wars and many alliances were bringing 500+ nations some 1000 nations. Do you guys see those days returning ever?

[quote name='Mergerberger II' timestamp='1294696846' post='2571359'] On Saturday, Comrade Swiper traveled to the glorious Iceberg of Doom in the sky. (OOC: He deleted ) [/quote] Tough loss, but Polaris is loaded with great people as seen in this government line up. Good luck guys and congrats to all.

Alliance Announcements are for real alliances. Technically even by my standards BoS is an alliance since it has two or more nations on the AA. But, Damsky is so fail that he and his alliance only waste space with every stupid announcement after every failed endeavor they take on.

SCY won't be happy about this.

[quote name='Nemhauser' timestamp='1294620285' post='2570433'] We control who we let into Nordreich. Our application process isn't something one goes over in 2 minutes. On the other hand, we do not control who gets into TKoI. [/quote] Yes, I'm sure it takes you guys more than 2 minutes to teach new members the goose step.

[quote name='Caffine1' timestamp='1294620917' post='2570446'] Except that wasn't what he was talking about, he was addressing another question and you're just trying to get another talking point. [/quote] True or False... Did Keve69 declare those UINE nations that raided AiD rogues? - TRUE It ends there, at least it should have. Keve gave in to your 3 silly alliances whining, that's the problem.

[quote name='Believland' timestamp='1294620722' post='2570441'] You sir, are hilarious. Yes, let's bully a small and defenseless alliance and dictate what they do. Are you for real? [/quote] Read what I said again. You can read right?

[quote name='Il Impero Romano' timestamp='1294617495' post='2570384'] Sure, until his penance is paid. Either he would pay reps or be released from your alliance for attack, just like any other rouge. The same goes for any of our former Lords as well, they either pay reps or get booted, same as any other member. [/quote] Keve69 did release them and call them rogues. Keve's problem later it seems was that the silly 3 alliances cried over having to fight rogues and kept at Keve until this deal finally came about.

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1294552262' post='2569361'] The FA behind this blowing up is a lot more complicated then you make it out to be. I think these terms are stupid, but I think Keve made the right decision. [/quote] The FA behind this? Please explain. I hope you're not going to say something like UINE's allies' allies would be put in a difficult position. If that is the case when will anyone ever support their allies? This matter was resolved when Keve69 declared the few rogues. Echelon, RnR, and AiD agreed then they reneged (you hear me Xiphosis). The reneging has been by these three alliances from the beginning. Keve69, you should know better and next time declare the nations rogues and notify your allies that you have done so. If you had done that and stuck to your guns, Echelon, RnR, and AiD wouldn't have done anything besides whine. But, had they declared war on UINE they would be at fault and not you because it is widely accepted that nations can be declared rogues. Your problem Keve69, is that you let yourself get pushed around, you should never let that happen.

[quote name='Jaymjaym' timestamp='1294549587' post='2569319'] Definitely complete overkill, but oh well at least this retarded situation is over. [/quote] Overkill, is an understatement. All this crap for an alliance that won't exist in a couple of months. AiD, just disband now.

[quote name='AmbroseIV' timestamp='1294548396' post='2569290'] Keve69 will be reduced to ZI [/quote] What?! Who, when, and why was that agreed to?

[quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1294494744' post='2568555'] Yeah, this is totally ridiculous. Refusal to accept reasonable terms does not a PZI make. And no-one with their brain turned on would call 4 $3m/100 tech deals unreasonable terms, particularly if they're simultaneous so you can use the $12m to back-collect with. As Haflinger points out we do have a space for PZI in our rules, but it's reserved for much more serious problems than you, and you were explicitly told in that log that VE didn't require any terms of you other than that you come to an agreement with CB. [/quote] This is to voice my dissatisfaction with Viridian Entente's positions. Let me preface my discussion by quickly reasserting a familiar theme of my previous letters: Viridian Entente has got to go—and yesterday isn't soon enough. While Viridian Entente puts on a good dog-and-pony show, I believe I have found my calling. My calling is to shout back at its propaganda. And just let it try and stop me. The following theorem may therefore be established as an eternally valid truth: Last summer, I attempted what I knew would be a hopeless task. I tried to convince Viridian Entente that this is sufficiently illustrated by the ridicule with which its monographs are treated by everyone other than raucous popinjays. As I expected, Viridian Entente was unconvinced. Above all, I will not stand by and let anyone twist my words or change my position in order to serve some querulous political strategy. I want to draw two important conclusions from this. The first is that Viridian Entente doesn't listen often enough, and the second is that I don't know what makes it think that character development is not a matter of "strength through adversity" but rather, "entitlement through victimization". Maybe it's been sipping cuckoo juice. The fact of the matter is that if you look soberly and carefully at the evidence all around you, you will undeniably find that he who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. Of course, people like Viridian Entente who do in fact perpetrate evil wreck our country, derail our civilization, and threaten the human race with extinction. One thing is certain: Anyone—you or I or a Martian just arrived in a flying saucer—who wants to bring a fresh perspective and new ideas to the current debate should realize that Viridian Entente uses emotionalism to produce a large number of thoroughly superficial extravagancies, most dirty indecencies, and, above all, the most audacious blasphemies against everything that I hold most sacred and most dear. That's the large elephant in the room that nobody ever talks about. Nevertheless, I decidedly maintain that people really ought to start talking about it because then they'd realize that it is easy to see faults in others. But it takes perseverance to extirpate opportunism root, trunk, and branch. As something that enjoys brandishing words like "anticonstitutionally" and "institutionalization" as a smoke screen to hide its contrivances' inherent paradoxes, Viridian Entente must indubitably be at a loss when someone presents a logical counterargument to its Pecksniffian schemes. There's a time to keep silent and a time to speak. There's a time to love and a time to hate. There's a time for war and a time for peace. And, I assert, there's a time to stop this insanity. Or, to put it less poetically, I see how important Viridian Entente's semi-intelligible bait-and-switch tactics are to its dupes and I laugh. I laugh because like a verbal magician, it knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak. I, speaking as someone who is not a vicious control freak, wonder what would happen if Viridian Entente really did nurture the seeds of our eventual destruction so that they grow like a rapidly malignant mutant form of kudzu. There's a spooky thought. Viridian Entente focuses on feelings rather than facts. Sure, it attempts to twist and distort facts to justify its feelings, but that just goes to show that Viridian Entente's chums are too lazy to give parents the means to protect their children. They just want to sit back, fasten their mouths on the public teats, and casually forget that if you think that Viridian Entente understands the difference between civilization and savagery, then think again. Viridian Entente wins kooks over to its side using big words like "deanthropomorphization", and every intellectually honest person knows it. Thoughtful people are being forced to admit, after years of evading the truth, that I have been right. I was right when I said that by an odd twist of fate, I cannot too often emphasize the simple fact that no matter what terms are used, we must fix our sights on the distant future, when we will have finally cleared away the spiritual and physical debris of the Viridian Entente era. I was right when I said that Viridian Entente's torchbearers are not only obscene lotharios but are also the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of our nation. And I was right when I said that if you're the type who dares to think for yourself, then you've probably already determined that Viridian Entente generally tries to keep its distance from the prissy disinformation artists who authorize, promote, celebrate, and legitimize jejune, brain-damaged conformism. However, it sees nothing wrong with forcing me to lose all self-control. Ah the sweet, sweet smell of hypocrisy. I close this letter along the same lines it opened on: No clear-thinking individual would have the temerity to leave us in the lurch. [spoiler]LOL Damsky, take the damn tech deals. [/spoiler]

[quote name='Buds The Man' timestamp='1294414575' post='2567309'] They held their ally to the same standard they hold their membership too. Nothing wrong with that IMO. With that said I could care less what someones beliefs are as long as they dont attempt to impose them on others. [/quote] You're dodging my point. It's ok though because I know you will stick with your ally no matter what. Nemhauser stated that part of the reason for the cancellation of the treaty with the Kingdom of Italy was that they don't know how many of its members are those that were recruited from that site or hold those horrible views. Nordreich itself is an alliance that reformed after the first version had "issues". No one knows how many of the current members of Nordreich are the same from the original because of rerolling and using different ruler and nation names, so whether you care to admit it or not, it is possible that those that created the problems for the original Nordreich are part of "new" Nordreich. I agree with you and I also don't care as long as they don't direct that ideology onto any rulers on bob. It's too bad though that Nordreich had to make this public because whether they intended to or not it is smearing the Kingdom of Italy. tKoI may end up having to disband and it's rulers reroll. This should have been kept private and Nordreich should have brought it's allies such as RoK or NV who have enormous credibility into discussions with tKoI where they could advise tKoI about removing and ceasing the recruitment of those type of members. If it ever came out, RoK and NV could have publicly supported Nordreich in that they tried to advise tKoI. My issue is not the cancellation of the treaty. I just think this could have been handled differently and privately and that Nordreich applied a standard/judgement on the Kingdom of Italy that could easily be applied to them....."who knows how many are there".

[quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1294370674' post='2566710'] Oh yes, because that is the only interpretation of the word "boy". [/quote] Yes, I'm sure he meant the other interpretation.... [quote]And you actions in leadership of past alliances certainly have you coming up roses don't they [b][s]boy[/s] male[/b]? [/quote] Cover for him all you like. He is what he is.

[quote name='graniteknight' timestamp='1294369535' post='2566671'] And you actions in leadership of past alliances certainly have you coming up roses don't they boy? [/quote] [quote name='Owned-You' timestamp='1294370116' post='2566688'] Given the nature of so many people attempting to scrutinize NoR for anything that could be slightly construed as racist. They have been very keen to distance themselves from anything related to that nature, to avoid those connotations and move beyond old stigmas held on them from their previous incarnation. As you so aptly demonstrated with that post, your type are the reason they moved so strongly on this issue. Otherwise, others like you would run wild with baseless accusations. [/quote] Or that post above directed at me by Michi is what some in Nordreich are still all about. Rerolling and a reformation doesn't change what they are. It's fine if they try to shed their old image by not acting on the horrible beliefs against other rulers here on bob. But as you can see, Michi has no problem throwing derogatory terms my way.

[quote name='graniteknight' timestamp='1294369535' post='2566671'] And you actions in leadership of past alliances certainly have you coming up roses don't they boy? [/quote] Just like a true member of Nordreich. You know calling someone boy in that context is derogatory. Showing your true colors Michi.

[quote name='Believland' timestamp='1294368680' post='2566642'] I'm under the impression that question marks present questions. You kind of asked one question and I answered it. I think Nordreich is right for canceling on TKoI. [/quote] And? I asked you really to compare and contrast Nordreich's history to this situation with tKoI. Nordreich ITT stated that part of the reason for the cancellation was because there was no way of knowing how many members tKoI has with those questionable views. Considering Nordreich's history and reformation, no one can know for sure how many old Nordlanders that held questionable views are in this Nordreich. Some may have rerolled but they are still who they are. Nordreich applies a standard to an ally and cancel a treaty. Nordreich is fortunate they received a second chance, they should have worked with tKoI and kept all of this private. Care to comment or just give your stock answer?

[quote name='Believland' timestamp='1294368345' post='2566628'] You need to [i]ask[/i] a question for an answer, buddy. [/quote] You can't read, you should have said you couldn't. Read again and comment. You're really just avoiding commenting so you don't say something against Nordreich. It's ok. You can be a mindless hailer.

[quote name='Believland' timestamp='1294367699' post='2566610'] What do I think? I think Nordreich is in the right. [/quote] Yeah, didn't answer the question at all. Read again, try again. [quote]What do you think of Nordreich stating that they canceled because there is no way of knowing how many members with racist views may be in tKoI. Yet, their own history and most likely rerolling of rulers may indicate that even in this Nordreich no one can know for sure how many members Nordreich has from the first version that held questionable views. They apply a standard to tKoI and cancel a treaty. Nordreich should feel lucky that many alliances have given them a second chance, they should have helped tKoI move past this mistake.[/quote]

[quote name='Mark Thomas' timestamp='1294367270' post='2566588'] This is no show, I assure you. I, for one, believe in diplomacy. This was the right thing to do, so I did it. I can only hope that relationships can be mended. That's all. Thank you, all. [/quote] As sincere as this apology may be, you should have passed and not posted this at all. You will get mostly idiotic responses. Good luck.

[quote name='Believland' timestamp='1294366573' post='2566550'] Buddy, these are my allies you're talking about. I didn't read it because it was bumph but, it's because I actually wanted to read it. Also, did you notice the part when you said, "Here is what I think and I'll probably get blasted for it. Nordreich wants to shove the racist label on another alliance so that people forget their past." please. That was a conspiracy theory and nothing of value. That's actually where you go in the next few paragraphs. Again, put down the tin hat and pick up a note pad. [/quote] Selective quoting there. What do you think of Nordreich stating that they canceled because there is no way of knowing how many members with racist views may be in tKoI. Yet, their own history and most likely rerolling of rulers may indicate that even in this Nordreich no one can know for sure how many members Nordreich has from the first version that held questionable views. They apply a standard to tKoI and cancel a treaty. Nordreich should feel lucky that many alliances have given them a second chance, they should have helped tKoI move past this mistake.

[quote name='Believland' timestamp='1294364949' post='2566505'] Ask question then and don't assume things. You'd think you would have ran out of tin foil by now. [/quote] I did ask questions. You are just too lazy to read through the topic.