DeadAnimal

I am interested and have coal and uranium: http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=284890

[quote name='The Iggy' timestamp='1287508740' post='2487781'] Would it be a fair interpretation this permits the unnamed persons (who I assume are the alleged inactives and/or not being held personally accountable) go free provided they drop the AA? [/quote] No, dropping the AA does not excuse the choice of reps. But seen as how the mercy board is basically white peace, I don't see what the fuss is. I see no difference between the mercy board and something like a beer review, and people didn't fuss over those. The ex-gov of FnKa chose to pay cash reps; personally, I didn't want to take advantage of GOONS hospitality. I might just do one for fun though, if I can find time.

[img]http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab161/Aetherius_Princeps/FnKaFlag010.jpg[/img] It is with a heavy heart I come before you to announce FnKa has functionally disbanded. We had a good run: we had a fun war, we buried a few axes, and its time to put it all behind us. The few active members just don't have the time or enegry to devote to FnKa that it deserves. We would like to thank our allies, the Ninjas, and GOONS for a well conducted war. GOONS aren't the evil menace that it's easy to paint them as; try actually talking to them first before you make a judgement. While they aren't everyones cup of tea, they have a good groups of gents' and something special going on. Also, before the peanut gallery tries to use FnKa as thier PR banner, just don't. GOONS didn't force us to disband. Those nations that have expressed a desire for peace will follow the GOONS terms to be specified below; those who have yet to decide will have the option remain open to them. I will continue to hope in the future we can all come together and make it happen. Until then; Minister of Defense - DeadAnimal Prime Minister - SkaPunk Minister of Finance - MVP2000 Minister of Recruiting - Silent Fury Note: Hydra will protect the AA FnKa and FnKa Academy from outside interference for 2 weeks, so raiders buzz off.

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1286913213' post='2482740'] May I propose a simpler definition of hegemony Being in power [/quote] [quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1286913721' post='2482744'] You obviously dont know the meaning of the word. Hegemony is the political, economic, ideological or cultural power exerted by a dominant group over other groups. They are the dominant grouping and they have intertwined and overlapping treaties and have worked together to keep people outside their sphere isolated or under their collective thumb [/quote] A Hegemony is not simply those with relative power, like the slight NS advantage PB has over other blocs. Instead to be a Hegemon, by definition, it requires ascendency or total dominance. It is also true then that three groups of roughly equal power with three seperate agendas cannot be a Hegemony. Rather, they would have to be working in partnership with eachother. There is obviously no inter-bloc treaty between any of these blocs. Also, there is no great volume of inter alliance treaties to create a de-facto super-bloc. Between PB and SF, there are 5 of 42 possible treaties: VE-RIA, VE-GOD, VE-RoK, GOONS-GOD, and FOK-R&R. Between C&G and PB there are 3 of 30 possible treaties, GOOONS-=LOST=, PC-Athens, and FoB-PC. Between SF and C&G there is just 1 of 35 possible treaties, Athens-CSN. An 8.4% overlap in the treaties between blocs does not equal an 'intertwining.' Seen as how both of these elements is absent, neither singally nor collectively do these blocs constitute a Hegemony.

[quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1286912573' post='2482731'] The PB/C&G/SF Hegemony[/quote] This smacks of a sick desperation. Let me know when you have proof that these blocs are working in concert on a global agenda of dominance and then when any of those blocs roll someone for a manufactured incident of spying then we can talk about them being Hegemons.

[quote name='Yankees Empire' timestamp='1286817003' post='2481599'] The standards of celebrating roguery, right? [/quote] You know it. Friends remain more important to me than norms regarding sucess, and if a friend wants to make a stand on something based on subjective merit, I will support them. I guess thats where we differ.

[quote name='Yankees Empire' timestamp='1286809016' post='2481515'] Boy that's one hell of an ego you've got. I wasn't even referring to you guys. Are you going to even try to pretend that declaring on GOONS was a smart move? You've lost half of your NS and any political capital you could have accrued (except for the few who think you're attacking GOONS on a moral basis). You wrecked your alliance for no reason. So I said to Prodigal Moon that it's good that Silence has smart members who wouldn't support such an idiotic move. [/quote] Yes, I do indeed have a very healthy ego, thank you: Now tell us how you really feel. You remain unable to judge FnKa's declration by our standards. We wanted a war, we got one. GOONS and their partners in this war have accepted it with no real contest. Did you even consider we don't care about our statistics or supposed political capital? We found out who our real friends are, and even found some respect from the nations we are fighting. Thats worth the price we will eventually have to pay to the piper. Well, I'll be, eh?

[quote name='Yankees Empire' timestamp='1286801233' post='2481469'] I'm sorry that there are intelligent people in your alliance. [/quote] Aren't you clever, you can imply things by inference! How about you but out, and leave judgements of the character of those involved in Rogufest 2010 to those PB members we are engaged with. At least they have conducted themselves respectfully, and havent engaged in hollow chest-beating or inane sideline commentary. (See I can do it too!)

[quote name='Raider' timestamp='1286649056' post='2479762'] Thank Admin for our allies. We'd never be able to wage war without them. [/quote] When we did the numbers for the first round of wars, it was a 36 wars declared by GOONS and 34 wars declared by PC, MK, AO, and UMB. Its well established your top tier is a little thin. Without your allies help, we would have done much more damage and taken far less. I don't see why the facts of an alliances membership are some big PR issue however. If I were in GOONS place, I would have done the same, all be it with at least a notice that we intended to involve our allies.

[quote name='CEverettKoop' timestamp='1286596305' post='2479369'] What's up with this guy? http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=423106 How did he surrender to you when he was one of you? [/quote] He was a ghost, most of our academy was to be honest. I don't know what in the world he is doing. We just told him to get off the AA. If you find out, feel free to fill me in.

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[quote name='Hiro Nakara' timestamp='1286453950' post='2477892'] Is your alliance having fun though? [/quote] Of course, no negative value judgement was implied. Morale has never been higher. And the supposed outrage of the many bawwing moralists who lack the balls to step up and declare has been some source of amusement. edit: grammer fail

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1286441373' post='2477854'] Are they evil bananas and coconuts? Also, I missed the last 30 pages or so, can I get a tl;dr? Are the 20 nations of FnKa are still getting dogpiled by a while bunch of AAs? [/quote] Yes, its still a dogpile by PC, MK, Umb, iFOK and AO. More wars than not currently are with them rather than with GOONS nations.

[quote name='mattski133' timestamp='1286386186' post='2477279'] This is FnKa using their heads. Like, ah, banging together two irrational coconuts. [/quote] True story, thinking is overrated. Espically when my head is a coconut. Or something. I think the metaphor you might have been looking for was using our heads by banging them against the wall. Just a suggestion, I could be wrong.

Good Luck in your project; Ive always had a lot of respect for GUN even though I only had the privilege to fight you in your twilight.

[quote name='LJ Scott' timestamp='1286159128' post='2473751'] Tbf their current top nation has a $25K warchest. That and several of their "upper tier" forgot to buy GC's. With that in mind, forget strategy, and simply learn the basics. [/quote] Its all irrelevant anyway, victory in our campaign won't happen by even the most prepared, most efficient and well coordinated attacks.

[quote name='Axolotlia' timestamp='1286069302' post='2472647'] Sounds to me like they don't want to acknowledge a conflict is underway, because by posting a DoW they are signifying that they are up against legitimate alliances, and not rogues. [/quote] That was indeed my impression as well. Though, they have not stated as much in our instance as they have in others, like the Ninjas.

[quote name='Axolotlia' timestamp='1286068867' post='2472642'] I may be proven wrong, but since when is that common practice? [/quote] It never has been a common practice. In fact, its deplorable. GOONS have defended it by saying 'its what we do, you should know its going to happen when you fight us." Which in my mind, its circular logic at its best.

[quote name='mattski133' timestamp='1285984230' post='2471770'] Did you read your own OP? What does TR have to do with GOONS indeed. [/quote] "...before you started letting ex-tR members join." I do believe you confuse our distaste of a specific group of people with the distaste for an entire AA. This group at one time happened to be in tR. Now you are mostly in GOONS. Hence the label 'ex-tR members. I really didn't think it was all that complex or odious.

[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1285959820' post='2471291'] This is a weird thing to say. As far as I know, all the people who are attacking ninjas and FnKa are treatied to us and are doing stuff through MDPs. [/quote] Apologies for the lack of clarity, but that was my point; that the nations engaging us are already allied to you. Hence why I felt a hypothetical bloc announcement containing these alliances would change nothing.

[quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1285941529' post='2471029'] A politically expedient target? Clearly you're mistaking the blabber here for the real political environment. You almost literally could not have picked a worse target, for reasons you'll find out soon enough. [/quote] Could you be refering to your 'super secret' bloc announcement that has been floating around for days on end? That happens to already include all the nations attacking us? And certainly, if we were making rational decisions that may be a factor. We happen to just not care. [quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1285941317' post='2471026'] Hello Craig from The International, please read the above. I'll await an apology to mattski and me. Thanks in advance. [/quote] Oh, don't misunderstand. We really don't like the 'your not an alliance' line. Raid whoever you want, as long as you accept the consequences. Just don't play little games of semantics. On its own however, its just that, disliking something. It certainly didn't motivate this war on its own. [quote name='Yankees Empire' timestamp='1285944407' post='2471067'] and You guys. [/quote] An excellent and substantive contribution to the discussion of war for wars sake. You sir are a credit to your alliance.

[quote name='Alfred von Tirpitz' timestamp='1285928571' post='2470937'] Not a fan of forcible charter amendments, no sir. [/quote] [quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1285920378' post='2470905'] A forced charter addition? Are you kidding me? [/quote] As clearly stated in the last 20 pages, everyone involved saw it for what it was: It was a rhetorical tool and nothing more. The point is we wanted a war, and GOONS were a politically expedient target because they are high profile.

[quote name='Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz' timestamp='1285907739' post='2470742'] This stuff just keeps getting better and better [/quote] I fail to see what the private opinion of one FnKa Applicant changes. But thats just me.

[quote name='Dr Beefstupid' timestamp='1285900618' post='2470584'] AI think it's plainly obvious that you're just out to cause trouble and GOONS is an easy target. [/quote] Yes, seen as how we've said this already, you are correct. And 1 member's views on raiding do not represent the whole of FnKa.

[quote name='Delector' timestamp='1285873298' post='2470020'] The goal of FnKa is to start a major war. They want to check authenticity of rumors. Who will support whom.... [/quote] So, ignore the entirety of the last 15 pages where everyone, including the people actually fighting, basically agree we went to war becuase we wanted a war, and then spout an off the wall conspiracy theory. Not too sure thats sound judgement, but whatever floats your boat. [quote name='Delector' timestamp='1285875096' post='2470057'] Make Aspen leave peace mode and I will think about that! As I told you 3 times: there is no target in my range atm! I can´t tell you how sorry I am about this!!!! [/quote] If you want to fight Aspen, all you had to do is ask, just have some patience.