MrAstro34

Honorable as always SUN! Good luck my friends.

Congratulations to two awesome groups of friends!

Congrats on the good looking gov lineup! Sad to see Tony go though.

You are correct on the luck part, however its a common term of well wishing in the future none the less. :)

Very glad to see you guys up and about! Good luck. :)

Hmmm, when did you become an all knowing government member of MCXA or DB4D? You're not? Well color me surprised, you sure act like you know a lot about us. :rolleyes: Back on topic: Again, glad to be allied to these fine folk.

Glad to see this finally up and to be treatied to a fine bunch. o/ MCXA o/ DB4D

Best of luck Survivors, and glad to see you back. :)

How cute. Making fun of us because we have some old bald guys in the AA. Seriously though, the insult is absurd. We have a very diverse, non bigoted community. Anyone that actually knows us know that, and clearly you do not. Oh, our leaders name is Aryan? The name wasn't picked because of its Nazi affiliation, rather other affiliations. Back on topic: Nice blitz MW and UCoN, and welcome to the fight. :)

Just because the few members do not represent a whole alliance does not erase the individual members. Its a double edged sword. Erixxxx's post did not stereotype your whole alliance, mainly just your noobs. He wasn't being an idiot and is far from a waste of pixels. An attitude of "if someone thinks so and so they are a waste and shouldn't bother being here" is ridiculous. That promotes stagnation, which hardly anyone can call good.

"U R STUPID & SUCK" is always a terrific comeback. Although I do have to agree judging an alliance on an example or two is not a proper reflection of the alliance itself. I suppose as the war drags on the alliances will show their true colors.

Best of luck to the Survivor's, that was a great group. Sad to see them go.

[quote name='Comrade Craig' timestamp='1358906752' post='3084166'] I agree with almost everything you've said, except the bolded part. The history of NEW is a history of opportunistic attacks. NEW-DF is (arguably) the single most defining event in their history, and it is the story of an out-of-control alliance who waited until their prey disbanded, and sensing an easy meal, set upon the remains. I've been their ally, I've worked with them, and this is part of their [i]appeal[/i] and their public persona. This craziness is exactly why some people seek them out for a treaty and others stay as far away as possible. INT has battled NEW, INT has fought on behalf of NEW, and now things have come full circle. It's all about riding the tiger. o/ INT o/ NEW -Craig [/quote] The only reason NEW is doing this now is because they were persuaded to wait. Had that not happened, they and us(DB4D) would be having a much tougher fight right now to put it mildly. Not knowing that though, I can certainly see how that assumption could be drawn. As far as the treaty chain goes for the other conversation, DB4D has an MDoAP with TORN as well.

Give them hell, and have fun.

I am extremely happy to see this come about... may our relationship only continue to grow. o/ NADC o/ DB4D

Congratulations on the excellent line up!

Congratulations to such a terrific bunch!

Congratulations on the promotion Dajobo and have a nice retirement Random.

I am quite happy that our alliances friendship is finally official. May our bond grow stronger and our friendship last the test of time. o/ SUN o/ DB4D

[quote name='Master Hakai' timestamp='1356050557' post='3066475'] Your SCROOGE avatar is perfect for you [/quote] How so? I was giving advice, which is thankfully largely unneeded for reasons below. I look forward to seeing people succeed and thrive, even if I may have been a bit harsh. I have actually had the avatar itself now for a few months. [ooc]As far as the holiday season goes, I love it.[/ooc] On topic: Congratulations on the fine protectorate! TTK are a great bunch, you've found some of the best people there are.

Aeros was giving you good advice and whether your little show is put on or not, you'd be a fool not to listen to it if you hope to succeed. I personally would suggest joining a good alliance and learning how CN works, but you said you weren't going to do that. Good luck, you'll need it, and thanks for the chuckle.

For a friend of DB4D's... [center][img]http://angevine.org/temp/ai/jack.png[/img][/center]

[center][img]http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj79/cybernationsart/Db4dflag6-2.png[/img][/center] [center][u][b][size=5]Death Before Dishonor Government:[/size][/b][/u] Supreme Commander: [b]Aryan83[/b] Supreme Regent: [b]Erixxxx[/b] Minister of Foreign Affairs: [b]Wifey[/b] Co-Minister of Foreign Affairs: [b]mankiller[/b] -Deputy of Foreign Affairs: [b]FrederickIII[/b] -Deputy of Foreign Affairs: [b]DracoDark[/b] Minister of Internal Affairs: [b]MrAstro34[/b] -Director of Trades: [b]Azteka[/b] -Director of Recruitment: [b]El Guapo[/b] -Director of Tech: [b]AulusGranthius[/b] -Director of Education: [b]Thom98[/b] --Deputy Director of Education: [b]spunk[/b] Minister of War and Defense: [b]the reaper[/b] -Deputy Minister of War and Defense: [b]FrederickIII[/b][/center] [center][quote][/center] [center][size=6][b]Death Before Dishonor Official Charter[/b][/size][/center] We, the citizens of Death Before Dishonor (hereafter known as DB4D), in interest of prosperity, freedom, liberty, and maintaining a sovereign alliance, hereby decree the following charter as representative of our official structure and ideals, and as the supreme law of the land, which every nation among the alliance shall assume the duty of upholding. [b][u]Article I- Founding Principles[/u][/b] [b]Honor-[/b] We believe that honor is what defines one’s value and worth, and that each member and officer must at all times uphold the honor and integrity of themselves, the alliance, and of all the members within the alliance. DB4D members shall never, under any circumstances, bring dishonor to the alliance. [b]Loyalty-[/b] We believe that being loyal is essential to being honorable. All members are expected to remain loyal to the alliance and government officials during their duration as members. Furthermore, we vow to always stand beside our friends and treaty partners, to defend them when the time comes, and if need be, die beside them. [b]Unity-[/b] We believe that in order to maintain a prosperous alliance, we must stand united together as one, each member willing to help out another during times of need, if at all possible. [b]Respect-[/b] We believe in mutual respect, and as an alliance we must conduct ourselves accordingly. We vow to show respect toward any other alliance, granted said alliance shows the same respect toward us, regardless of any possible differences in opinion or ideals. [b][u]Article II- Member Naturalization[/u][/b] [b]All nations are welcome to join the alliance, granted they complete the required application process, and that they are not:[/b] A.) Currently engaged in any wars. All wars must be finished before the application is processed, and the membership is approved. B.) Currently on the ZI list of another alliance, or the target of another alliance. We will try to help resolve any issues that may exist before the application is processed, and the membership is approved. [b]All applicants must agree to uphold the charter, laws, ethics, and standards of the DB4D to the best of their abilities. [/b] [b]Member Resignation-[/b] Members may freely leave the alliance, however we expect to be paid back all that has been granted to them for nation growth, or for any special growth/nuclear programs. This does not include personal gifts and money made in tech deals. In order to resign, one must post a resignation form located in the appropriate section of our alliance forum. [u][b]Article III- Government[/b][/u] [center]In order to remain organized and up to standard, the alliance structure and ranking system shall be the following:[/center] 1.) Supreme Commander- Supreme ruler of the alliance. Oversees all departments and memberships. A.) Powers-[list] [*]Determines the political direction of the alliance. [*]Makes the final call regarding war declarations and military/hostile operations. [*]May appoint Minister positions as he sees fit. [*]May suspend/expel members from the alliance at his own discretion, except for the members who's removal from the alliance is to be done otherwise as according to this document. [*]Makes the final call regarding sanctions, ZI sentences, and member expulsion. [*]May Amend this charter at his discretion, with the majority vote of the Supreme Council. [*]Retains the power to veto any legislation, decision, or charter amendment proposal made by other officers. [/list] B.) Succession - The Supreme Commander retains his tile for life, and can only leave his position via resignation or impeachment. The Supreme Commander may only be impeached due to treason, failure to abide by the charter and/or bill of rights, or for inactivity over 12 days. Impeachment must be ratified by a unanimous vote of Supreme Council, and a majority vote from all members. If the impeachment is successful, elections will be held to appoint one of the Supreme Council as new Supreme Commander. 2.) Supreme Council- Serves as the legislative and decision making branch of the alliance, consisting of a minister of each department. A.) Powers-[list] [*]Shall act in the stead of the Supreme Commander and/or Supreme Regent, in their absence. [*]May suggest amendments to the charter, new laws and ordinances, and provide feedback on the overall direction of the alliance. [*]All treaties, charter amendments, and law proposals made by the Supreme Council must have 2/3rd votes for approval by the council, in order to reach the Supreme Commander for ratification. [/list] B.) Impeachment- The Supreme Commander may remove/demote a councilman at his discretion. A Majority (2/3rds) of the councilmen may move for the impeachment of a fellow Councilman, however the removal is subject to being vetoed by the Supreme Commander at his discretion. 3.) Department Ministers- There shall be three departments in DB4D, each department shall have a Minister which sits on the Supreme Council, and will appoint its subordinates known as Directors, and an Assistant (Deputy) Minister, accordingly, all subject to the approval of the Supreme Commander. Each Minister may also opt to work with a Co-Minister. The Departments shall be known as Department of Foreign Affairs headed by the Minister of Foreign Affairs (MoFA), Department of Internal Affairs headed by the Minister of Internal Affairs (MoIA), and the Department of War and Defense headed by the Minister of War and Defense (MoWD). All Ministers have creative control of their departments that can not be infringed upon by anybody else but the Supreme Commander, however members from any department may be subject to being instructed by a minister from another Department, if it involves that particular department. (for example: A Nation who serves in the Foreign Affairs department can be instructed by the head of the Internal Affairs department, if it is involving Internal Affairs issues such as inner alliance tech deals, etc..) [b]Minister of Foreign Affairs (MoFA) -[/b] Shall oversee the signing/Drafting of all treaties, have the power to appoint subordinates known as Directors, and appoint ambassadors to other alliances in hopes of expanding our friendships and political influence. [b]Minister of Internal Affairs (MoIA) -[/b] Shall oversee the functioning of the various economical programs such as organized tech deals. May appoint a Director of Trade which shall oversee all trade circles, a Director of Tech who shall make sure all members of the alliance have prime opportunity to buy and sell tech, and a Director of recruitment who will oversee recruiting operations, as well as any other subordinates deemed necessary to the efficient functioning of the department. It will be the duty of the MoIA to make sure his department is ran up to standard. [b]Minister of War and Defense (MoWD) -[/b] The Minister of War and Defense is the highest military position in DB4D, and shall oversee military progress and defense preparedness. The MoWD will appoint Generals (Battalion Commanders) who are equal in rank to Directors, and run the military as seen fit. 4.)Deputy Ministers- Deputy Ministers may be appointed in each department by the Minister of that particular department. They shall be a successor to, and assist the Department Minister as necessary, and in the absence of said Minister, will assume all the duties thereof. 5.) Co-Ministers- If a Department is headed by co-Ministers (two Ministers), their combined votes will count as a single vote in the Supreme Council. Disputes may be resolved by the Supreme Commander or within the Department itself. 6.) Supreme Regent- The Supreme Regent acts as an adviser to the Supreme Commander. The Supreme Regent may act in the stead of the Supreme Commander in his absence. [b][u]Article IV- The Constitution[/u][/b] Section A.)- Foreign and wartime Conduct Death Before Dishonor shall remain as a Military based alliance, with our freedom, sovereignty and right to bear arms for the defense and advancement of the alliance being uncompromisable. 1.) Death Before Dishonor, being a military alliance, if ever finding itself in need of accepting peace during a war or a conflict, under no circumstances will accept terms dictating the decommission of weapons, nor shall accept terms calling for the destruction of wonders or improvements that would restrict the alliance from maintaining it's means of defense, or financial prosperity. This also includes Navy and nuclear weapons. 2.) Death Before Dishonor shall never accept a foreign viceroy to take command of its government or citizens for any reason, likewise we shall never appoint one to a defeated enemy, nor offer them humiliating and/or unjust terms, doing so would go against our very principals as stated in Article I of this Charter. 3.) Death Before Dishonor does not support or condone the practice of eternal ZI as a punishment for neither a rouge, an enemy, or an uncontrollable/unruly member, unless under circumstances where it is absolutely necessary, such as said target threatening to carry on a conflict, or in any other way posing as a direct threat to the alliance following a re-roll. 4.) Death Before Dishonor condones the practice of tech raiding under the following conditions: A.) Nations who are a part of an alliance consisting of 5 or more nations may NOT be raided. B.) Nations who are protected by another alliance may NOT be raided. C.) Members of DB4D who decide to tech raid, may NOT under any circumstances practice extortion. D.) All members must obtain a tech raid license, and are responsible for doing their own homework. Tech raiders will be held fully responsible for any mistakes they make, and will be responsible for any and all reparations that are required. E.) All members who decide to raid must add "PM for peace" on their reason for war, and accept peace when offered by the target. If the target decides to fight back before offering peace, the DB4D raider may continue fighting until the war has expired. Section B.)- Citizen's bill of rights Death before dishonor strongly believes in the personal freedoms of all citizens within the alliance, and as such we have established this bill of rights which shall never be subject to infringement by the government, or any other citizen. 1.) All Citizens, Officers, and leaders of Death Before Dishonor, by order of this constitution, as part of our official charter, shall be guaranteed the right to free expression, and to speak freely without fear recourse under the following conditions. [b]Article IV sec. B subsection 1 does NOT reserve rights to:[/b][list] [*]Backtalk, argue with, question or disobey the orders of, or otherwise disrespect a superior officer. If a disagreement occurs then it must be taken to a private setting, or before the Supreme Commander or Supreme Council, or those appointed by the Supreme Commander to mediate the situation, if necessary. [*]Make OOC attacks against fellow members of Death Before Dishonor. [*]Post on the OWF forums or in particular embassies, against the orders of the Supreme Commander. [/list] [center]2.) All members of Death Before Dishonor, after meeting the nation standards as dictated by Article IV-Section C of this document, reserve the right to build and maintain their own nations how they personally see fit, except for during times of war where military leaders (General, Minister of War and Defense, and Supreme Commander) may dictate certain aspects pertaining to war strategy. Tech dealing is considered a [u]duty[/u] for those who are able to profit from it, and therefore this law does not make qualified nations exempt from said duty. 3.) All members of Death Before Dishonor reserve the right to exercise their freedom granted by this document, as well as to pursue personal happiness within the limitations of the Charter, the constitution, and the Bill of Rights. 4.) All members of Death Before Dishonor reserve the right to bare arms for the defense of their nations and of the alliance, with no forced limitations by a superior officer with the exception of the Supreme Commander, or a unanimous vote by Supreme Council if the Supreme Commander not present. 5.) All members who have been accused of, and/or is being charged with, any infraction of alliance law, be it of the Charter, Constitution, the Bill of Rights, or any other document which may or may not be implemented in the future, are to be presumed innocent until proven guilty, and have the right to stand a fair trial upon request. If a nation who is charged with a crime and has been "arrested" via military engagement, is found to be [i]not guilty[/i] upon completion of the trial, they have the right to be reimbursed by the alliance for all damages and costs resulting from said engagement. If said nation chooses to leave the alliance before the matter is resolved, or before being reimbursed, they automatically forfeit their right to reparations. Section C.)- Nation Standards Death Before Dishonor believes that certain standards must be met by all individual nations in order to further assist the prosperity of the alliance as a whole. These are required standards for all nations who join Death Before Dishonor, unless given the express approval from the Supreme Commander to defy these standards. 1.) All nations under 3000 Infrastructure are strongly encouraged to possess no less then 50 tech, and no more then 60 tech, allowing them to maintain an acceptable military, while still making a profit from tech dealing. 2.) All nations under 3000 Infrastructure and who meet the tech standard are strongly encouraged to take part in tech deals as tech sellers. 3.) All nations are prohibited from being inactive for more than 5 days. Nations must log in frequently and be willing to verify their activity by reading and replying to any messages sent by Death Before Dishonor government requesting a reply. "Back Collecting" does not count as inactivity. [b][u]Article V- Government Responsibility[/u][/b] Each government official who sits on the Supreme Council must fulfill their duty to the absolute best of their ability. Proposals submitted for a council vote must be addressed by ALL members of the Supreme Council within 48 hours. Should a member of the council fail to meet this deadline their opinion and vote may be nullified. Consistent or repeated nullification may result in disciplinary action to be determined by the Supreme Commander and/or the remaining Supreme Council. It is commonly understood by Death Before Dishonor government that this document is the floor plan for how DB4D shall operate and govern itself, and as such is subject to being amended accordingly, in a legal manner consistent with the laws of this document, as the alliance grows older and situations change. [/quote] [size=5]DB4D Treaties:[/size] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=105962"]The Komodo Eagle Acords[/url] [b](NEW-DB4D MDoAP)[/b] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=113550"]The Righteous Honor Accords[/url] [b](TORN-DB4D MDoAP)[/b] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=113094"]It Was Consensual, I swear![/url] [b](Invicta-DB4D ODoAP)[/b] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=113967"]With Honor Comes Templars[/url] [b](TTK-DB4D ODoAP)[/b] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=113965"]Love on the Battlefield Accords[/url] [b](NADC-DB4D ODoAP)[/b] This information will be updated regularly when it changes. If you have questions, comments, concerns, or anything you'd like to say, go ahead. [img]http://forum.cn-nadc.net/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png[/img][/center]

This is very saddening. I extend my deepest condolences to FAN and his family.

Congratulations DR on the fine addition!