New Frontier

I suggest approaching the Cult of Justitia for a protectorate. I have no idea if they'd agree, but they do tend to be fairly contrarian when it comes to the social mores of CN alliance founding, and may be more willing to take a chance on an "outsider" approach like the one you're taking.

Auto and Ging, you're cool cats. Good luck with this.

I hate Liberal alliances.

A real conservative would never cheer for the Detroit Tigers. Detroit is a unionized fever swamp of communist sympathy, and your baseball allegiances show your true colours, leftie.

Was just thinking we hadn't had a real good round of self-righteous furor lately. Thanks for stepping up!

[quote name='Spaarlaamp' timestamp='1351527089' post='3046395'] I really want to raid them. [/quote] I wouldn't, but suit yourself.

Welcome to the Dinohouse Co-Prosperity Sphere, GOONS.

I am thinking, Winner as President, RV as Vice President, myself as Finance (though obviously my only job would be to make sure nobody tried to organize the economy) and Jake as a regular member.

Good luck to all involved.

Deinos wishes our friends in Avalanche a hearty congratulations.

i will only make a conservative alliance

will the alliance be liberal or conservative

Congratulations are in order for our Dinohouse brethren.

How old are you?

"come on guys stop playing this game as if it has any political weight whatsoever, just make things interesting for those of us who can't do it ourselves"

[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] A thread about Reavers. No bloodshed. No eating of flesh. No thick tears of the oppressed. Only four pages. If you people needed tips on how to do a Reaver thread properly, you could have just asked me. [/font][/color]

Mazel tov. Many years of happiness.

Allies just don't get better than the Austrians. Congrats to Nordreich on finding fab friends.

Two damn fine alliances in this treaty.

Boya indeed.

[quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1348935381' post='3035653'] What higher ground? Come off it. Last time I checked MHA and Sparta weren't actively plotting with JA every night on how to take down its direct allies. A group of people needed Umbrella to fight with them or at least not against them in order to destroy XX, so they made every attempt to make it seem like Umbrella would be a big pile of dicks if it didn't do the heavy lifting against some of their direct allies. Mind you -- this was for their own purposes, with very small if any benefit to Umbrella and certainly at a loss long term. They continued pressing this until it seemed like a compromise to not directly hit their allies and to just shut them up. There was nothing moral about it. These same people to this day !@#$%* at Umbrella for not doing more, and every time I see it I crack up because it's exactly what I told them would happen. As for Umbrella's Gov -- They're sovereign so it really isn't up to any of us [i]what[/i] they do. A president isn't elected to do what the people want and ask them how to do his/her job, they're elected to influence and lead to do what the alliance needs. It's an important distinction to make because doing the latter is often unpopular -- but doing the former is ...just bad government/policy. [/quote] "Neither side had a moral high ground" "WHAT?? You think MK had moral high ground?????" reading can be tough though, keep trying

[quote name='berbers' timestamp='1348933556' post='3035644'] Hey you have got me all wrong, Umb did what it thought best I am sure, just like we all do. I was commenting more on JA talking about following the majority opinion, I disagree with the premise democratic leaders are slaves to the masses. [/quote] And you're twisting his words. According to JA, public opinion happened to coincide with the majority of his treaties and a situation where he personally saw neither side as having any sort of "higher ground". Additionally, to suggest that democratic leadership is somehow not about representing the people seems pretty silly to me. Does a real leader form opinion? Of course. But that doesn't happen at the expense of giving his people any sort of say. It's a natural give and take.

[quote name='berbers' timestamp='1348932883' post='3035639'] In a democracy, weak leaders rule by opinion polls, strong leaders make opinions. [/quote] And if he'd fought for the other side, you'd all accuse him of jumping ship/ignoring the majority of his treaties. round and round and round it goes

"i demand that someone do me a huge favour by protecting my alliance" Looks like you guys missed out on a real gem, there, Combine.

Wait, did MK give the go-ahead? It took us nearly two weeks for them to rubber-stamp our last charter change.