Chasmic Descent

Didn't that come up last time?

Fair enough. I was thinking more along the lines of returning it because it was reperations paid on behalf of Kronos, and Kronos has now made clear they never wanted this to happen, rather than compensating TOP. But prehaps TOP deserve a little 300 tech spank for their actions (which does sound like an accident from what I've heard, albeit a big one.)

Considering that the evidence was circumstantial, and that Kronos has since been able to cast doubt on some of your concerns, do you guys in STA believe that a symbolic gesture of returning the tech to TOP could be more benifical than keeping the token symbol of 300 tech, if it helped in keeping a better relationship with TOP/Kronos; considering as Masterof9puppets said in this thread, that the mistake on Kronos' behalf may not have merited any reperations?

edited: Pezstar answered this, thanks.

Hi there Bzelger, If Kronos were able to cast further doubt, or go so far as to disprove that they were aiding the rogues in the manner that STA suggested, would STA return the reps that TOP had paid for?

Kronos you guys are legends and you know it

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To the guys in the RIA if your reading this my take on it, Alot of ppl in this thread are against what Penkala did (before he decided to quit) not because of some agenda or loyalty to athens, or even for drama, but because its funny to see a hypocrite squirm. Nuking some nation that you have tech raided is fine by me, I dont care, its your risk to take. But the fact that Penkala came down so hard on Athens for their actions and then refused to answer for his own was amusing. Tech raiding is still about the guy with the bigger stick hitting the littler guy. The case with Athens was just an even bigger divide between the raider and the victim. The fact of the matter is though, when you tech raid you are attacking someone who cant fight back without losing badly (even if Penkala wouldnt have had his mates gang up 3v1 if the victim put up a fight, the potential for Penkala to do so must have been very real for the victim). tldr, Tech raiding is fun, but tech raiders cant go around telling off other tech raiders for "doing it wrong" without looking like idiots.

lol, Well actually I didn't judge Athens harshly for their recent actions, I'm in favour of tech raiding, and in my eyes raiding a 5 nation alliance which has no treaties (which alot of alliances do including my own) is similar to raiding a 40 strong alliance without treaties (putting aside the whole Mash thing, Imean even mash didnt know they had a treaty so how was Athens suppose to). It's just that Athens took a bigger risk than most tech raiding alliances, but thats just my view on it.

no problem, things take time. Maybe in another six months our continued actions may cement you optimism

You sound out of touch with what Valhalla is about.

You prove that they dont. (oh god I sound like some religious nut D:)

Everyone knows who would win if a dragon and a tiger crossed swords. Valhallan dragons' sword skills are second to none. Q. Has anyone in the STA ever read "The Life of Pi"? Its about a 16 yr old kid shipwrecked, in a lifeboat in the pacific ocean. Oh yeah and the other survivor on board this tiny lifeboat is a tiger...

Well that will be interesting if its still active Dude, you have to spell it as "Kronos", not "Kronus", otherwise the acronym doesnt work

I was being presumptious that they did have protectors, but i havent been able to find out much about them, they dont even have a cyber wiki page (that or I cant find it) But, if a 40 strong alliance has no treaties, well... that's quite irresponsible of them. The alliance leaders have left their members unprotected. Like it or not you cant remain out of the treaty web and hope that your alliance wont be tech raided. I guess o7 to Athens for having chosen a great alliance to tech raid