NuclearShawn

BAAAAAAAAAAALLINNNNN!!! o/ IRON

We fought hard and honored a treaty, and some of our members didn't get the message that we had peace immediately. Get over it. Blackwater is a nice bunch. I'd be happy to fight against them or next to them any day of the week.

That one little statement doesn't seem too incriminating as to his intentions to release logs, especially as it seems it was a private conversation. But what do I know

I don't waste my nukes on nations who don't have the ability to buy them I think the current strength ranges are fine. Tournament edition is meant to be fast-paced and competitive. It's about clawing your way to the top and staying there. It resets every 90 days and you'll get another shot. Since everyone starts on even footing (except for trades, but that's another story), I think that complaining about being smaller and thus more vulnerable has no place in TE. If you don't want to be raided, defend yourself better or make friends who will help you. These two points are the only real arguments I've seen for strength ratio changes.

They should just declare on me, I've got slots.

Ehhh, I beat the snot out of two people who weren't on at update and now I've got someone on me who knows what he's doing, but is a little slow with his mouse and half my size and can't possibly put up a fight. Fun fact: Navies are obnoxious

I think OJ declared. But you know, I just bandwagon. Haven't had a war yet and was getting bored :/

Alliance wonder/improvement/nuke stats aren't updated in real time, pretty sure that they only update at update, but they certainly only update at fixed intervals.

This is rather sensible, despite some mentions of oddity. By coming to GDA for protection, NWO has requested their assistance. In return they have somewhat sworn fealty to GDA, while GDA has retained its complete autonomy, much in the way that is sensible for a larger alliance to have over a smaller one who has requested their protection. While it does read a bit lop-sidedly, that is a result of one alliance compensating for the risks it has undertaken by having a protectorate, while still giving the protectorate the chance to to request assistance and recieve benefits. Why on earth would a protecting alliance have any obligation to put both alliances on equal terms not of respect and honor, but of power? It's obvious where the power lies in most protectorates, and this one simply spells it out more blatantly then others. That said, best of luck to both of you

There's already an option for people who don't want to get nuked. It's called peace mode

Bumped. Our Lumber/Cattle person has left us, so I know I'm looking for a new lumber partner, at least. There's nobody with lumber/cattle on orange...etc. Edit: If you have lumber/anything I don't have, send me an in-game PM if you'd like a trade. Nation link here: http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_...tion_ID=1003021

I hope you realize that creating a discussion for every slight against you is a bit overdone. (OOC: Really? You're taking what (seems to have been said) in a private MCXA channel to here? Don't be a drama queen. I realize full well that aids is no laughing matter, but this is a silly way to handle this. Fakeedit: Youzjustplayin')

I look forward to seeing the fruits of your labors Heft.

Certainly GATO being the oldest alliance around and NSO's survival of the fittest mentality won't conflict, and Ivan wouldn't have thought carefully about the color to choose when picking which team to start his new brand of alliance on. Not to mention GATO holding two senate seats, and NSO will likely displace one of them. I don't presume to know what goes on "behind closed doors", but from where I'm standing a potential conflict certainly isn't preposterous, as NSO becomes the de facto #1 alliance on Brown.

I think it's fairly obvious that the only alliance they've infiltrated deeply enough to spy on is their own. Looking forward to the next installment of "Mom, check out my tinfoil hat!"

Aluminum/Sugar Orange if possible, but I don't really care. http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_...tion_ID=1003021

IRON isn't here to cry about our forums. Should you read the OP, you might realize it was a statement of why our forums have been down, a denouncement of DDoS attacks and those who use them, and a statement of what we have done. Nowhere in the original announcement can I find a plea for Cybernations in any capacity to throw a sympathy party, as you seem so bent on painting a picture of. We aren't asking anyone to do anything. I realize that basic logical fallacies are a staple of propaganda, but you can do better.

A light hearted jab at Vox's controversial stance on this, as with most topics. I earnestly believe that DDoS'ing becoming an acceptable element of Cybernations would be entirely detrimental to the functioning of the game. Suppose someone decided to DDoS CN and its forums themselves, as retribution for being disenfranchised from being a powerful alliance? I view that in the same manner as this. Losing a game never warrants the response of popping everyone elses' ball.

Do you understand that the world does not revolve around you and your do whatever it takes, ruin as many people's lives, so long as you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied along the way, just so long so you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied and dying along the way? Edit: But seriously, I don't believe that Cybernations should EVER spill into the realm of OOC ALLIANCE actions. Let people be responsible for themselves. Nobody burns down someones house because one person inside may be a murderer. The forums are IRON's house. If you have a problem with what somebody has done, take it up with them personally, rather then by making an anonymous, wanton attack on every member. Take credit for what you do, if you aim to be a man.

I'm finding that their rationalizations tend all too much to imply justification. Yes, appropriate in-game reprisals and propaganda are certainly appropriate, as is some degree of frustration. On the other hand, stepping outside of the virtual sandbox and attacking a business unaffiliated to IRON except by their content hosting is quite low. I'm simply stunned that people would seem willing to condone the use of illegal and destructive tools on anybody. I'm not even so much upset that it was IRON, but that this was done at all. Anywhere. o/ To the pursuit of justice, friends.

I think that Tournament Edition won't see the stagnation that Classic has. For one, every alliance wants to be on top, and has the potential to do so with every new round. Additionally, even if one alliance ends up having far more people then the others, the collective can still drop them to their knees because everyone starts out relatively equal (Trades excepted). As long as everyone keeps a competitive mindset, and tries to keep their own alliance on top, I think it'll stay interesting, particularly as rivalries develop and the like.

Because NPO has an average NS of 23,000, while Jarheads is 500, with many lingering at 187, and presumably is having trouble conjuring enough nations the size of a day 1, poorly rolled nation Say what you will about the de facto reasons for the war, but there really is no argument when it comes down to the facts of parity in nation numbers at the size this war is being fought at.

And NPO's nefarious plan to steal a source of IRON technology is revealed

I find it interesting that the aim name used in that isn't the same one posted on the youtube video's user profile... http://www.youtube.com/user/NightmareRH Just a discrepancy. Wouldn't surprise me if anyone used multiple SNs for public/private, or anything like that though. Or if people were using aliases, etc.