Cairna

As much as I appreciate Chimaera's antagonism, he's just not that proficient as a bad guy.

You're arguing over ridiculous semantics. What you call a treaty stopped having significance a long time ago, it seems, given that we have MnDOAP's and the like, which is basically a get out of jail free card for global wars (the life of the game). There's nothing with a bloc being formed in the spirit of an MDAP but having a legitimate clause allowing for some flexibility. Why don't you go troll IRON.

hey we don't come here to debate. get bent, pal

I can't believe you linked 'do something about it swagger' to one of the most logical posts Hereno has already made. By all means, go aid your Kaskus if SL's allies jumps in. The less people reinforcing stupid ideals the better. I mean seriously, this is just really pushing the limits of what does and does not make sense.

Just so long as RIA keeps you at war longer than this bigger war lasts, I'm happy. I should be in range by then.

Some things never change

I'm still saying Ordnance of the Orders

I didn't even have to beg

I can vouch for the accuracy of this.

Tywin, probably the reason nobody in our alliance will treat you with dignity and respect is because neither your behavior, nor intelligence warrants it. The Kaskus war was not convenient. It was a stupid ordeal that Kaskus could have easily avoided. They accepted a member on our ZI list. Smurf agreed to take his punishment to avoid Kaskus going to war, but Kaskus was not willing to let a member undergo that. Smurf's violations were serious enough to warrant pursuit, we weren't about to let it go because they don't like to operate by CN's general rules. We would much rather have saved our strength for the war that ensued. And Kaskus was by no means an easy target. Apart from some undesireable elements, they were pretty war hardened and oh my god why am I even bothering typing this out. My suggestion to House Baratheon would be to put a leash on your court jester. At least NSO's idiots don't pretend to act in an official capacity while they do it. Just thought I'd laugh at this again given that he hasn't done anything of note for the past months beyond tell me about the awfulness of Chinese internet

Like you said, you were on the outside. Every member was able to see half-hearted attempt at making amends, and I think they'd be disappointed if we accepted that.

The order isn't above apologizing to its allies, current or former for its wrongdoings. Polar is, and here's what it's brought. They wanted to bury the hatchet, but they never took any real steps. There's not point pretending your alliance has character if you just move on from it without any resolution. This'll be nice.

I am the membership. We're often asked who we want to gun for, and my answer is usually that I'm indifferent. Though I am pretty happy with the results. I'm still well-connected enough to know both sides saw this coming, and so the CB is dissapointing because it [i]tries[/i] to lay the blame squarely on us. Hey, if Polar took responsibility for their actions, we probably would have stopped caring two years ago. They've got a long history of being a pretty bad ally. Perfectly willing to throw us and others under the bus pre-Coalition war when they thought they could save themselves. Happy to switch sides in Bi-Polar without ever admitting wrongdoing. I'm cool with this so long as I get to leave PM sometime soon.

Jesus, you're a joke. Leadership doesn't care about their nations, and the membership is fine with the war, all except maybe some of the most recent newbies (who never are). Our intent is to do as much damage as possible. We warned our membership that you guys were coming for us months ago. We're good to go. Tell us more about how succesful a leader you are. Just having fond memories of CD riding in to save CCC back when you were getting whooped by NEW. Really hoping that's the kinda of martial prowess I get to see from the other side in this war.

All the haters up in da club

Trolls are pretty weak in this thread. What's up with that, CN?

Seriously. Pretty sure I remember a time where AO had plenty of trolls. Of high quality, though.

Sure, we accept basically anyone

Now, most people wouldn't post in this awful/awesome thread. But I did. Just something I thought I would point out.

Aw. Always did love good ol' 519.

Right. The STA and her allies never beat WAPA down twice for relatively tiny transgressions. Okay.

Nobody ever does. It's good to see that the quality of your trolling hasn't changed.

Yes, you threw your alliance under the bus to get our attention. Yes, our declaration of war and subsequent decimation of your stats brought negotiations back to the table. Peace was then achieved. You'd be a brilliant strategist if it weren't for the fact that you complained the whole time for entirely foreseeable results and then tried to hold off peace [i]based[/i] off the results of your actions. Kaskus and PPO are very lucky to have such an impressive character as their ward.

Doornail, For future reference, the OWF owes you nothing. No leniency. It has long been the standard of CN that if you are aiding an enemy of another alliance, that alliance can seek war or reparations. The general rule is that if it is accidental there is a certain amount of leniency provided, whether it be a mistaken tech deal, or a newbie/inactive's mistake. We, the NSO and NPO both, had made every attempt in good faith to broadcast the fact that any aid rendered to Kaskus would be treated as an act of aggression. I am doing this as a favor to you in light of what I saw from the negotiations. The NSO was far more lenient than any alliance have been in the past regarding aid attempts. When you, as a leader of an alliance, openly attempt to help out your protector against us, it is an act of aggression from an alliance leader. Whatever attempt on our part was made at a peaceful negotiation after those acts was charity. As an alliance leader, the burden of knowing the world's state of affairs is on you. Just because I don't know that a law has changed does not make me immune from its application.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1358230362' post='3076660'] If your son/younger brother gets beat in a 1v1 fight, you shouldn't do anything [/quote] Lol what? No, but actually.