AvengerNL

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/123085-proposal-for-1-aid-slot-only-gives-some-nations-1-aid-slot/ I still have this bug. Someone tried to send me tech to my 7th slot but it was denied by the system due to me not having an open slot, while I only had 6 accepted/pending.

Let me just come in here and call the nonsense card on you here. TOP has never pushed FOK into dropping anyone. In fact, I remember that during Karma war it was the other way around where you guys wanted us to drop TOP. So don't go and play the pity card here. And I know what I'm talking about since I've been involved in FOK foreign affairs pretty much from the beginning to the end of FOK-TOP relations. Honestly guys, I really liked you when I was in FOK, but y'all have grown an annoying attitude that definitely does not suit you. Back when GFL was still there with you guys y'all made much more sense than you do right now. Apparently you guys got beef with us so let's just get all the silly fake stories out of the way and just fight it out on the battlefield. That way I will hopefully regain the respect and love I had for you guys back in the days.

Sure, but there's two ways to deal with that. One way is the way IRON and ODN did, by threatening and degrading, the other is the way TOP dealt with it, by befriending and guiding. Then again, I believe we are going a little off topic here, which is probably mostly my fault.

Orange wasn't always that great. I remember that in FOK's first days we were threatened quite a lot by IRON and ODN, mostly because we grew really large really fast and they were too scared to lose their senate seats.

May Johan have mercy on your soul for the Platypus will have none To a good war! The Platypus hungers!

Classy declaration guys, I am looking forward to fighting the NPO once more. Last time was a blast, I'm sure so it will be this time.

Why is this thread 12 pages long? Of course the NPO is back at their pre-Karma heights, no one can deny that. Perhaps, in another year, a Karma 2.0-esque war changes that again. Its the circle of life. The people shoutting loudest that the NPO is now so great will be the first to turn against them then, and the NPO knows that so they want to maximize their influence. Frankly, I can't blame them. It has worked for them in the past so why change ways?

[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1336727070' post='2966235'] I didn't know you were still around at all. Good to see. What's next, an AvengerNL appearance? [/quote] Hai. Sad to see this happening to FOK. Its been a good run guys.

[quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1328052909' post='2911896'] Also I mean during a war between her and 3 other people. [/quote] Did you polar too stupid to read?

[quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1328027204' post='2911557'] That said Ragnarok would do well to restrict posting to the OWF to government only for a while and get both its internal and external affairs in order. [/quote] Wouldn't that still be about everyone and their mother, seeing how everyone seems to think they're in charge of the alliance at the moment? I can't see how it makes things any better for them, honestly.

[quote name='berbers' timestamp='1328005532' post='2911470'] That statement is vague and opiniated. Please explain the following: 1) What is news? 2) What has NATO always been? [/quote] 1) Im not sure, but I know this isn't 2) Irrelevant

[quote name='Megamind' timestamp='1328001689' post='2911463'] So what you are saying is that the Adel administration is illegal, but that it's ok because it's none of our business? [/quote] Didn't it kind of become everyones business when everyone and their mother decided to make a thread on the OWF claiming to be the emperor of Ragnarok?

Dont blame you Leet. The (at that moment) legitimate government declared Kait rogue, and MK decided to start a tech raid. If RoK decides to switch government its fine with me, but if the new government then decides to take in a nation at a (nuclear) war with another alliance without asking the nation to peace out, its not Kait's or MK's problem, but RoK's (or whatever's left of the alliance anyways). RoK demanding reps would be strange, because them reallowing kait back in the alliance without asking her to peace out or refrain from nuking implies they support her actions (as several CN precedents before have shown, an alliance is responsible for its members actions), and therefore MK has a valid point in wondering what the current RoK government has against MK if they tolerate such violent actions against their nations. *edit* i hate you cheeky

Good time to get back to CN. Let's go melt some more icebergs, then.

These 'allies' should have considered this BEFORE joining a coalition that did not contain several of our other allies. Don't blame us for honouring our treaties deja.

Obviously. Now get us more beer.

Avalon does not limit the freedom of choice of its members in any way at all!

If the NSO was so keen on war then why did tLC and the rest of Frostbite crawl back this far the moment we actually stood up for Dennis. I mean come on, at least give us some fun. Don't be the paper tiger you appear to be right now.

I believe such requests are not being honoured anymore for some time now. Reading comprehension. Seriously, I know the ODN is even more ignorant than you were in the past but please, just please, at least pretend you have some sort of a clue.

I rest my case.

I love it how for the second time in a row you manage to avoid all the tricky questions he asks you. Duck for cover matey.

Its not about being 'worth it'. Its about fun.

It could actually be interesting. Have two nations battle each other, set up some score system. And then watch who wins. In the mean time people can place bets in the form of money or tech. Now we would only need someone with an awfull lot of time to set this up

You can't compare this time to a few years ago in terms of 'tech raiding vs no tech raiding'. People are mass quitting now because they've played the game for ages. I've been around for over two years and it got boring. Why? The game's stuck. FOK's been preparing for the last big war longer than it actually lasted... There's a war engine in this game for a reason. The active and friendly community definitely adds to the game, but you don't need a treaty to talk friendly OOC to someone from a different alliance. I always have good contact with my opponents in war.

How many FOK nations do you think have quit over the last year because the game wasn't entertaining enough since people like you were protecting unalligned nations all over the place? You can twist it all you like, but if no one allowed tech raiding, the game wouldn't even have half the amount of players it has now. And by that I'm not saying that half of the players is currently actively techraiding, but they are benefitting from it nonetheless. Wether actively, having fun, or passively, by economic gain in their alliance.