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[quote name='King John Philos Vi' timestamp='1297052962' post='2623227'] If NPO is eliminated, we won't be able to [s]enjoy[/s] hate your [s]clever[/s] silly and [s]funny[/s] stale propaganda. [/quote] Think you might have crossed out the wrong ones there

o/ TPF!

This is wonderful to see! Congratulations to you all!

[quote name='mylife125' timestamp='1295932813' post='2598668'] Thats is the best DoW i seen in months..Give them hell pacifica [/quote] Mylife! Hey whats good?

[quote name='Detlev' timestamp='1295932098' post='2598558'] 1 hour in to the war and 25% of NPoland nations are in anarchy. *chuckles* [/quote] Admittedly I would have hoped for better considering its 4 alliances 2 hours before the update... but you know, on an adjusted scale I guess you guys did a good job!

-65,-115 98% -65,-112 99%

New hotspot...so, lets find it! -48.0, -111.0 = 87% -56.0, -93.0 = 90%

Congrats you guys! Much deserved for the both of you

After all the effort he put into building the alliance back from the ground up, can't believe he would leave... Oh wait...

To prosperous future for the NPO and the NSO!

Congratulations to the New Pacific Order

[quote name='Sir Sci' date='12 March 2010 - 04:21 PM' timestamp='1268425612' post='2223556'] Actually........failed. [/quote] If a 60% membership retention is an effective coup .... well, thats just a shame. EDIT: Decided to use retention stats instead of loss stats.

[quote name='Jonathan Brookbank' date='09 March 2010 - 03:01 PM' timestamp='1268161612' post='2219490'] There is no hatred towards Squires and I'm not really sure where you're getting that from the Charter. Also, as it says, Squires do not have a say in alliance affairs, so no, they would not count towards any of the vote totals. [/quote] I suppose I was just taking a more pessimistic approach than intended, but rather than saying that squires are basic membership, it says they are the lowest possible. In my personal albeit unwanted opinion, I first read it as overly harsh. The rest of my confusing, about them voting, I would believe is still confusing to myself. They are referred to as members, but don't get to vote as members, I guess with your distinction it is unnecessary, but as the charter is worded verbatim, I still think its confusing

[quote name='Momonishiki' date='09 March 2010 - 01:49 PM' timestamp='1268157239' post='2219420'] So, from a spirit of great unity and healing for those who left to rats and shame on the same page of the thread? Care to choose which it is? [/quote] Well....Bryon's voice is an official voice of the FA of the GGA, since he is the MoFA, so thats fun...guess not everyone wants to make friends with those in the past. EDIT: Adding another point. Why the hatred directed at Squires? The bit in the charter about them is filled with contempt. Further, do they count as part of the vote when it says 75% of all membership? cause it does say all, but at the same time, it says they have no voice in alliance affairs...but they are still a member, just a little confused. Thanks

[quote name='simon2269' date='09 March 2010 - 01:45 PM' timestamp='1268157034' post='2219415'] "Once again I extend the hand of friendship and camaraderie to former members, former allies, and even former enemies and adversaries, to come visit us at our alliance forums and IRC channel." "As such, each and every former GGA member will always remain bonded to our family, and any such prodigals (meant in an allusive sense and not a literal sense) that feel the urge to return may do so, as now is a time for great unity and healing." "A Viceroy from where, I wonder? Certainly not from those who fled our alliance in its time of need like rats attempting to flee a sinking ship. Unfortunately for those people, the Patna did not sink, and that shame will follow them the rest of their existence." Pulled a few bits of quotes out, seems to be mixed messages there, ex-members are welcome family and also shameful rats. All the same i wish you the best of luck for the future and hope this is the start of something grand. [/quote] haha good call

I thought I read somewhere that none of the transitionary gov would be in the final gov... guess that worked out well. It might be too late...but DerekJones for emperor? I mean if you let Brookbank in and to emperor in 16 days, surely you can't disqualify DerekJones. Also: updated -40 members since prior government was overthown. Right now there are 61, for anyone that wants to watch in the next few days. Lastly: Your webpage/forum doesn't reflect this.

[quote name='Jonathan Brookbank' date='02 March 2010 - 01:09 PM' timestamp='1267549955' post='2211432'] Actually, degenerate108 owned the old forums. [/quote] But he had to give up his account when he left, and shane got the password. or I am terribly mistaken?

Oh, thought only root admin could do that...and with shane being the only one to have the account with root admin...weird.

[quote name='Byron Orpheus' date='02 March 2010 - 03:10 AM' timestamp='1267514046' post='2211046'] Luckily, the alliance does not rely on the opinions of the public, but on the opinions of the members. If the GGA were a publicly traded alliance, we would be sure to give the shareholders some sort of satisfaction; it is not, however, and therefore we are not beholden to anyone. The GGA is losing no more members than if it had been disbanded, which was up until recently a very real threat. No, we are currently working on the charter which will be up for international display shortly. The GGA's identity is for us to decide, not outsiders with nothing better to do than opine on the GGA's status. This will certainly be apart of a long and noble history, and one day these days will be looked back on as the actions of patriots. The only thing that distinguishes a patriot from a traitor is time and victory. [/quote] Um...yeah...to respond to your first part...I think its when the opinion of the members, a 75% vote down is disregarded is when you have an issue..wait thats what happened right? So...since you have more members than if they had all left thats a plus? I mean...any number is more than 0...but losing 30 members is still significant, and you can't pretend they all deleted, your Tri is a diplomat to about half of them. Skipping charter issue. I believe what DJ meant is that the Grand Global Alliance's identity. The GGA of his time, the state in which the GGA was created and the state that it "thrived" (don't bother debating this, I don't really care) in is gone, it has been destroyed by recent actions, and is likely to never be created again. Therefore it is only GGA in namesake [b]not[/b] in which he, nor I, nor most would remember. (Sorry DJ if I spoke for you wrong, hope I didn't)

[quote name='Dementual' date='01 March 2010 - 07:32 PM' timestamp='1267486570' post='2210415'] Okay then, I guess you missed the part where we didn't get rid of the old location. But go ahead and blame me for it. It's nice to know that I have the kind of power to destroy entire castles without even realizing it. [/quote] [quote name='Byron Orpheus' date='02 March 2010 - 03:05 AM' timestamp='1267513715' post='2211040'] It's the only way to describe the situation. I need to address this and what some other people have said about this being an effort to override the membership. It isn't a "us v. them" mentality in the GGA, folks. I voted against the measure when it was proposed, and I wholeheartedly support the new government now. Because things change, and drastic action was needed where it was not needed a few weeks ago. The forums were deleted by someone outside of the transitional government, they were not deleted as part of the so-called coup. The charter is being redrafted to reflect the changes in our alliance, and it will be certainly much more effective than the old charter was. Any accomplishment you can throw out there, people on the other side have done as well. Acting like you were somehow special in contrast to the supporters of the transitional government will gain you nothing, for nothing sets you apart from the herd other than some blind allegiance to a government that tried to cast you to the wind. [/quote] Hate to say it Byron but Dementual just said the forums weren't deleted.... Wonder what else the transitional government is keeping from you... But on a more serious note...I think shaneprice should still address the fact that he has for two times in a row ousted two triumvirs out of office. Um... yeah, cause I miss seeing Shane and since he isn't posting, maybe someone is gonna think he's inactive like Andre, I don't know really. Oh and....lastly...there was a procedure for rewriting the charter, in your person opinion do you think its better to remove 2/3 triumvirs, remove the charter, reinstate some old time GGA members, and then rewrite it...or you know...keep 30 active members and do it the right way? Just curious really, well I just want to see what your answer is. Don't mean to be rude to Dementual, Shane, and JB, I'm sure you guys are awesome

[quote name='Sognatore' date='23 February 2010 - 01:46 AM' timestamp='1266903963' post='2198622'] lol, this made me laugh so much Thanks, I needed that! [/quote] Soggy! I miss you Me too by the way.

@ shanprice: You can only kick out the people that do all your work for so long, then it'll just be you and a bunch of ghosts sitting around waiting for stuff to get done, only then, people will care even less. Edit: Admittedly, I don't know how much work you've been doing in the past 200 days, but... if your work ethic hasn't changed.... Also, good luck with this.

[quote name='DeScepter' date='22 February 2010 - 02:00 AM' timestamp='1266818416' post='2196569'] Things worked out really well for the GGA last time they had a coup. I'm sure it will work just as well this time. You win. [/quote] Hate to be that guy, but didn't they have more members before?

[quote name='Robony' date='16 January 2010 - 01:05 PM' timestamp='1263661526' post='2109301'] For nukes, I would add the option "Detonate WoMD". Seems realistic enough that if they can target one, they could blow it up, causing nuclear damage to the owner. [/quote] I like it That'd be fun to watch too, spies on the mission would die though

Congratulations Mushroom Kingdom!