Roxxo

[quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1323217383' post='2866419'] I'm willing to bet Sparta doesn't have a clue how much money is needed to wage war. What do you have, 10, 15 days of bills on hand? [/quote] 10 days of bills? ARE YOU MAD?! Why would you ever need that much money.

I'm just posting here to let you know that I have found a different circle and will have to drop out of the one I signed up for here.

I'll do it if you haven't found anybody else yet. http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=466733

[quote name='Lord Fingolfin' timestamp='1283316832' post='2437938'] I agree with most of what you're saying, and commend Sparta for the efforts it's taken to improve its military (I myself had mixed results fighting Sparta, one nation went inactive and actually deleted after being blitzed the first night, cm'ing back at me, and then me nuking him, while another nation I fought was capable enough, and the three nations I attacked later when I came out of peace mode were decent, if outmatched). However, I take issue with the quote above, which is just factually flat out wrong. I posted our DoW on February 3rd, we had our whole peace negotiation fiasco on the 11th where our protectorate and our MDP partner MASH peaced out, however, The Legion stayed in for a good week and a half to two weeks after that, eventually peacing out on the 22th when I posted our surrender terms, my last action in government before leaving the alliance. So, Legion was in for 19 days, not one week. Also, Sparta hardly took Legion out, The Templar Knights, Asgaard, The Soldiers of Legion, The Circle Of Icarus and Alpha Omega countered the following night. All these counters played the biggest role as by and large they were very prepared and competent, Asgaard, TCI, and AO, being small well prepared and well coordinated high ANS alliances, and Templar Knights being a fairly solid 4 million NS thrown on. The only weak leak was Soldiers of Legion whom were wrapped up fairly quickly with some counters. Then, two days later on the 6th, you piled on Amazon Nation, another high ANS alliance, as well as Umbrella (although Umbrella only engaged our #1 nation, and perhaps a few others IIRC, they weren't focused on us by any means). Outnumbered, and outgunned, particularly in the upper ranks, The Legion stayed in and rejected multiple offers of white peace, instead opting to stick it out, only peacing out when our then Imperator ordered me to seek peace despite a general membership poll that was in favor of fighting on. To claim that Sparta singlehandedly wiped out The Legion in a week, is just so far from the truth it is staggering, and I'd imagine is probably just a claim made out of bad memory, not any malicious intent. That being said, I would hardly characterize Sparta as the worst military alliance, they had their bad and good apples. The title of worst military alliance goes to WAPA, hands down, who provided entertainment to the TIFDTT command channel in our darkest hours. On a side note, my apologies to you personally, Hyperion, and the rest of the Spartan government/allied governments I dealt with during the peace negotiations. I was at times rather undiplomatic and unaccommodating to say the least, and deliberately did everything I could to sabotage peace talks and prevent us peacing out as I felt we had an obligation to stay in the war. Nothing personal, purely business. [/quote] One thing that you have to take into account is that we didn't focus on the Legion until well after you declared on us. We were more concerned with TOOL, TOP, and IRON at the time and let our allies handle Legion and whoever else else was attacking us at that time. I believe what Hyp meant was that Legion surrendered quickly after we shifted our focus over to them and actually started going on the offensive against them. I believe it was called operation $%^# up purple team. Also I was one of the decent yet outmatched people you referred to I think you were the only person I fought that actually had more tech than I did...and more infra...and more nukes...and more aircraft...more of pretty much everything really, hence the outmatched part. I could defend pretty well, but I couldn't do anything back.

o/Doxa Sparte\o